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I put the basic Steeda stop the hop kit in and it wor k s pretty well.i have vertical links coming from BMR in a couple days. 2019 mustang gt base a10 with pp1 and 301 pkg for drag mode. I will be testing in FLA in a month or so to catch some good air. Very little wheel hop now and i haven't put the vertical links on yet. Any clue what it ought to run? I way 270. Also a guess on what it will run on flex tune and e85?
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Stock probably 12.1-4. With e85 you'll see mid 11's.

Suspension mods don't do anything for these cars imo. Just get a good drag radial and you'll never have an issue
 
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No drag radials in my future. I will spend the money on suspension if it will help, and it shuold.
To me it is all about what numbers i can run at the track in the same form i drive it on the street.
 

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Have fun with that lmao
 

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No drag radials in my future. I will spend the money on suspension if it will help, and it shuold.
To me it is all about what numbers i can run at the track in the same form i drive it on the street.
Thats silly... Would you go hiking in flip flops?

Then why would you do the equivalent to your car.

Its just tires.
 

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You two are too closed minded to understand i believe, but as Ricky Recardo would say i will try to esplane it to you!
Its all about street performance. Bettering the way the car reacts to power on street pavement, where it will spend 99.9 percent of its ' life! Not wheel hopping all over the place on wet pavement or even dry pavement when it was bone stock.
You want to see this kind of genious at work, go to a FAST street car race and watch guys run tens in the 1/4 on shitty biassed ply tires ( they are allowed better compounds than the original tires).
These 1960 and 70 muscle cars are tough to hook up when you are forced to run a seven inch wide 15 inch diameter tire! But they enjoy the chalenge. Kinda like my race car in my avatar. Lots of comments like. "you can't make this or that work" Well, i did pretty good putting down eight passes all within .005 et at 8.90 and 150 mph. And that was over two days. Many racers can match what i did, but a lot of them couldn't do it with the equipment i chose.
 

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You need a tire. Look at mt et streets if you want something you can drive on. I’m at 700hp with zero wheel hop without any stop the hop kits, links, Or irs lockdowns. Just added semi slicks and that solved it. Hook and go. That being said I will most likely lock down the irs to firm the launch up.
 

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These guys are right. Tires. A very streetable drag radial like the Nitto 555r. If your looking to do things the hard way. The nittos are about as blurred a line as you can get when it comes to street/competition tires. But if you want to have at it. On the rubber the car came with from the factory. More power to ya. I’ll say high 11s with a fantastic driver. And mid 11s on e85. With no other mods.
 
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Thanks for the input. With pp1 the s4 tires work quite well on prepped track or good pavement for what they are, a street tire. I will look for a great street strip tire when these s4 tires are all done. I just want a tire i can get 7 to 10 m miles out of and still never have to change tires and wheels if i want to seriously race the car. I am 69 years old and have had the fun and luck to have guidance from others to get my drag car down to low 1.2 60 fts so i have some background on how this stuff works. But my philosify is to never reinvent the wheel, so researching and picking the brains of others is always the first order of business. I am usually surprised by this old saw" i don't know what i don't know!" So i am always looking for positive input and info!
 
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I noticed that the difference between hop and no hop with totally stock suspension was whether it hooked or not! My car hopped badly on damp pavement yet would stick and go with no hop on great dry warm pavement. That tells me that under ideal circumstances (great sticky tires and good track or pavement) you don't need any mods, but if the conditions are not optimal then they sure help! So it does depend on what a guy is willing to put up with. In my case obviously i am shooting for max street performance. But the track tells the tale like seat of the pants never can. The numbers never lie!
 

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You two are too closed minded to understand i believe, but as Ricky Recardo would say i will try to esplane it to you!
Its all about street performance. Bettering the way the car reacts to power on street pavement, where it will spend 99.9 percent of its ' life! Not wheel hopping all over the place on wet pavement or even dry pavement when it was bone stock.
You want to see this kind of genious at work, go to a FAST street car race and watch guys run tens in the 1/4 on shitty biassed ply tires ( they are allowed better compounds than the original tires).
These 1960 and 70 muscle cars are tough to hook up when you are forced to run a seven inch wide 15 inch diameter tire! But they enjoy the chalenge. Kinda like my race car in my avatar. Lots of comments like. "you can't make this or that work" Well, i did pretty good putting down eight passes all within .005 et at 8.90 and 150 mph. And that was over two days. Many racers can match what i did, but a lot of them couldn't do it with the equipment i chose.
More power to u man i have a PP gen 2. I run all season tires on it because spending 1000.00 on tires once per year for miles I'm using to go to work and Kroger got ridiculous.

If i we're to put my car on a road course again i would for sure run some summers or R comps. I wouldnt run all seasons on a racetrack,because I'd total the car. It's just tires man you dress for the occasion.
 

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No drag radials in my future. I will spend the money on suspension if it will help, and it shuold.
To me it is all about what numbers i can run at the track in the same form i drive it on the street.
Other than E85 tuning, the single best thing I did to my '18 A10 GT was buy Nitto 05R drag radials...and I could still get them to hop under track conditions, that's why I then moved on to a full IRS stop the hop suspension package from Steeda, now I can't get my tires to hop under any circumstances, it just won't do it...but without drag radials, I bet it would still hop if I ever drove in rain, which I never do for obvious reasons.
 

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Also a 9 sec car is still a 9 sec car whether its on Slicks or street tires. The slicks are just using the power the car has more efficiently. And protecting your drivetrain from shock loads caused by wheelspins
 

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I'm no drag expert but going off your experience and what other have done I think you could run low 12's with the pp1 tires in drag mode with the nannies off and good conditions. Other poster on here did who has your experience and there's one guy who was running 10's on his street tires. Drag mod and nannies off of course to get best times
 

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You can run 11’s e85 tune on stock pp1 setup. Although track prep and weather will ultimately determine the outcome. I had horrible axle hop last weekend and had to get out of the throttle on every run or potentially snap a half shaft. The hellcat next to me did break his. Car would not fully hook until after 3-4 shift. Ran 2 12 flats 121-122mph w/ 2.1 60’. Fyi... My only mods are tune, tb, and axle back.
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