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It's Californistan.
 

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I live in the downtown of a major city and am shocked often sarcastically at some of my neighbors who complain.

It's downtown.... there's gonna be noise, drunk people, tourists, cars, fireworks 4 times a year, music etc litterally all year round.

You knew this....

I'm not shocked at this racetrack stuff. People think cause they live somewhere that the entire area must bend to their comfort levels. It's more common than you think. I also grew up on military bases and overseas. I don't even hear noise any more half the time.
 

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So, when I thought I was watching cars racing there back in the '60s, it was just the 'shrooms affecting me?
 

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So, when I thought I was watching cars racing there back in the '60s, it was just the 'shrooms affecting me?
LOL yep. No way it could’ve been there, the residents suing now would know better 🤣
 

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hope the presiding judge tells these people to piss off, the track was there long before they were.
The reality is different unfortunately. A similar series of lawsuits have practically ruined an iconic and historical Circuit Mont-Tremblant track here in Canada. It wasn't shut down, but the crazy limitations on noise, number of cars and etc has made it basically unusable. Even a stock mustang would likely blow the sound limits, you'd get black flagged and kicked out if you blow the meter twice, the number of cars allowed is very limitied, so the cost of doing HPDE there is basically doubled, and there is nothing the owners can do about it. It will likely close after 60 years of history, including F1 races, just to satisfy a dozen rich aholes who likely don't even live in the cottages that they own there.
 
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The reality is different unfortunately. A similar series of lawsuits have practically ruined an iconic and historical Circuit Mont-Tremblant track here in Canada. It wasn't shut down, but the crazy limitations on noise, number of cars and etc has made it basically unusable. Even a stock mustang would likely blow the sound limits, you'd get black flagged and kicked out if you blow the meter twice, the number of cars allowed is very limitied, so the cost of doing HPDE there is basically doubled, and there is nothing the owners can do about it. It will likely close after 60 years of history, including F1 races, just to satisfy a dozen rich aholes who likely don't even live in the cottages that they own there.
Having seen how CA judges look at cases involving individuals vs corporations through past work experiences, I agree with you it may not turn out well. I think the one glimmer of hope here is the County owns the track. They zoned it and likely set a lot of the regulations around it, so I think they are in firm ground. But the wildcard will be what kind of judge presides over the case. I’m sure the locals have more experience with this kind of stuff than I do especially recently , I haven’t dealt with Cali judges in about 10 years (thankfully).
 

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Having seen how CA judges look at cases involving individuals vs corporations through past work experiences, I agree with you it may not turn out well. I think the one glimmer of hope here is the County owns the track. They zoned it and likely set a lot of the regulations around it, so I think they are in firm ground. But the wildcard will be what kind of judge presides over the case. I’m sure the locals have more experience with this kind of stuff than I do especially recently , I haven’t dealt with Cali judges in about 10 years (thankfully).
Sure, they won't take the land away, but most likely they will enforce the sound limits on it, which will significantly impact number of people and events there, and ultimately commercial viability of running the track. I really hope I'm wrong with this one and things will go differently.
 

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From Lions Dragway to Riverside Raceway, & many more along the way...
The People's Republic of California, always handles this situation best.

Neil deGrasse Tyson tells us we won't need to drive our gasoline powered classics/performance cars, on the crowed highways soon. Cuz we will have racetracks all over the nation for that sort of enjoyment.

Clearly someone forgot to explain to him that reality, unlike astrophysics, only lives outside of most west coast states that touch an ocean. He's never owned a sports car by his own admission either
Yet, understands the future of the performance car culture, & all it's available facilities we will soon enjoy 😉.
 

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Noise complaints have been shutting down tracks all over CA for decades. The most recent example is Fontana drag way and now the Nascar track/Fontana as a whole.
 

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I guess they want people to do ALL that in the street! :like:
 

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https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/laguna-seca-being-sued-by-its-neighbors.195256/

I was thinking of this topic today. Like many here, I grew up around these tracks. It was something we often heard, but didn't both us. During football season, I can hear the local HS stadium well into the night; nobody's suing to remove that.
I need to use the search function better here, I thought this would’ve been brought up already but couldn’t find it 🤦‍♂️. Thanks for posting CJ’s thread link.

There are always lawsuits between homeowners and O’Hare Airport here. They piss and moan because they bought a house adjacent to one of the busiest airport in the world and didn’t think it would be noisy?
 

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Good article BTW. The sarcasm was well-received. I'd be like, "Really?! I'm that close? Score!" :rockon:
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