That's similar to my thinking. Ford used to have a track pack for the S197s, but they changed the name to Performance Pack for the S550 GTs, so I figured they were protecting themselves from saying it's a full-on track car.
I definitely agree with you that if Ford advertises a car as being "the most track capable Mustang ever", or something like that, then the components needed for the common style of HPDE (not racing, but driving aggressively around a track in a controlled environment) should be installed on the car.
I'm speaking more on the PP2, suspension tweaks being considerably stiffer, very wide sticky tires, functional aero work, more aggressive steering, sits a half in lower and runs 3.5 sec faster than a pp1... They do all that then say that's it's not a track car or direct competition to the 1le...so what exactly did you build it for lol?
Ford doesn't offer a track package for the GT.
I think they realized their marketing claim of "track pack" was pure garbage. Performance pack is a much better marketing play, as it's not a true "track pack".
That was always my take on it. I was never under the impression that the PP1 was a track star, just a more track ready machine for the AVERAGE consumer. If anyone searched the internet, they'll be lucky to find more than a handful of overheating complaints on the track. Most people just don't lap these cars long enough.
It absolutely is direct competition....Ford saying otherwise is full of shit. And yes, they should have added additional cooling and eaten the extra costs (for the PP2 only).
I'm sorry, there is a reason they offered a track pack. Ford tried to give the public a cheaper GT350....but those that were too ignorant and cheap to buy the track pack bitched that their non-track pack cars were (gasp) overheating on the track. The cooling package that was included just bumped the base price up (which screwed those that would never track their vehicles).
This.
$3k less? You're required to upgrade to the premium interior and last I built both the Camaro was cheaper
Just to tack on to what you said... I'm not a racer but doesn't tracking a car usually involve a lot of upgrading anyway? Things like tires, suspension, etc. People like to compare a bone stock vs bone stock vehicle, but how many racers leave them that way? I would think the potential of a car is what matters.
Haven't heard anything really about the S550s going into limp mode even down south... worst I've seen is diff overheating, and as I've said, that can be cured with some higher viscosity fluid (Or, if you feel the need to be extra cautious, spend the $900 on a diff cooler). It's pretty much a non-issue in Germany, the hottest it ever gets over here is about 90*
But you're not willing to pay an extra $900 for a diff cooler? Now you see why Ford didn't include it... if they would have, people would bitch about pricing and not buy it at all. At least this way, they can sell them and people will bitch that it doesn't have coolers, but still buy the car and just add on coolers
Since when? There are a few people with the cloth interior PP2 cars on this forum. The only requirement for PP2 is 301A, which is also a requirement for Magneride. MSRP for the 1LE cars I have seen were around $46k. When I priced out a PP2, before ordering my PP1, it was about $43k and change. The difference between PP2 and my current car was like $600 something.
Agreed, there have been very....very few failures at the track attributed to diff and trans overheating issues (as seen by lack of complaints here and in other forums). Most concerned about the transmission would likely do just fine with this... https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-ra...MIl6bEg5yh2gIVDK_ICh2-1gO5EAQYAiABEgLhhfD_BwE
