INJEN Intake Install

[mustang_guy]

Im not knocking you. I hope you believe that. It definitely isnt a horrible intake by any means. However i do think the stock box with some mods might do slightly better. I dont think many aftermarket boxes do a ton for our engine until some headwork is done or an upgraded manifold as far as NA is concerned. Obviously it helps with force induction. I think we have some good options as far as open box types. steeda, pmas, roush. Some good closed boxes too, stocker with some mods, airaid, injen, corsa and whatever mishimoto makes possibly. However i dont think any of the closed boxes do any better then the stocker with some mods.

Doing a different non oe grill has helped people with iat. Id suggest the 170 tstat but you have that done i noticed.

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[Concrete GT]

Geez, rough crowd! I launch at 4K every run, with 16psi in my drag radials every run. It's test and tune night so the track is garbage. Ask Beefcake how Edgewater is. 3 weeks ago I beat a Hellcat by .002 seconds Lol!

I ran a 12.11 at 118mph on one run last night. A stupid dually rolled through the water box right before my run so I spun pretty bad. 1.89 60ft on that run.

To say the INJEN intake alone made a .3 second difference would be laughable. To say this intake and a new tune had something to do with it? Definitely. My Roush tune was 8 months old and Lund has probably learned a little bit since then and that knowledge is incorporated in this newest tune/revision.

:cheers:

God forbid a CAI might actually help a car perform better on this forum... I just love the way anytime somebody claims their car ran better because of a different CAI or catback exhaust they are flogged usually for not posting dyno results or any kind of results like Bob did. He stated multiple times that the car has significantly better throttle response. To me it is almost idiotic to think that alone would not equate to a better time at the drag strip simply because the power is on that much quicker.....also if the CAI added HP and torque THROUGH THE CURVE which might not even equate to a higher peak HP output it is still going to make the car quicker because a car is NEVER at peak output ALL the time whether on a dyno or going down the drag strip :headbonk:.
All this being said, when I opened up my grill and added a AEM performance filter I could feel quicker throttle response ON A STOCK TUNE btw. I am going with just the MIT along with my panel filter and a sound tube delete until FRPP releases their tune and as long as the car feels snappier and a little more angry on the street that will proof enough for me....However I will be sure to post results from my 2nd thru 4th pulls read by mt butt dyno :lol:

 

[pinero61]

Does this thing make dinosaur noises when you rev the engine???

 

[Jeff's FRC]

I dont agree that it had anything to do with it. You trapped slower and your back end time is slower at the 1000 mark. It doesnt take much for the track to be slightly more grippy. Your idea of the intake making the difference is flawed. Its not a rough crowd. Spinning more also is why you trapped higher after the truck. It wasnt because of power.

His previous best mph of 117 was on a 1.86 60' so the 118 trap on the 1.89 60' is comparable I would think.

Whatever the case may be, a closed box type intake is superior IMO.

 

[mustang_guy]

His previous best mph of 117 was on a 1.86 60' so the 118 trap on the 1.89 60' is comparable I would think.

Whatever the case may be, a closed box type intake is superior IMO.

You arent looking at his whole slip either

 

[mustang_guy]

God forbid a CAI might actually help a car perform better on this forum... I just love the way anytime somebody claims their car ran better because of a different CAI or catback exhaust they are flogged usually for not posting dyno results or any kind of results like Bob did. He stated multiple times that the car has significantly better throttle response. To me it is almost idiotic to think that alone would not equate to a better time at the drag strip simply because the power is on that much quicker.....also if the CAI added HP and torque THROUGH THE CURVE which might not even equate to a higher peak HP output it is still going to make the car quicker because a car is NEVER at peak output ALL the time whether on a dyno or going down the drag strip :headbonk:.
All this being said, when I opened up my grill and added a AEM performance filter I could feel quicker throttle response ON A STOCK TUNE btw. I am going with just the MIT along with my panel filter and a sound tube delete until FRPP releases their tune and as long as the car feels snappier and a little more angry on the street that will proof enough for me....However I will be sure to post results from my 2nd thru 4th pulls read by mt butt dyno :lol:

Better throttle response doesnt automatically mean it's faster either. Also the throttle input change could be attributed to the tune revision. There is zero evidence proving anything unfortunately. Thats whats being said.

 

[Jeff's FRC]

You arent looking at his whole slip either

The 118 slip wasn't posted. What do you think it would show?

With 60' times very close he still trapped higher with a slightly higher DA. OP also states the car doesn't bog out of the hole anymore. However slight the improvement is, there seems to be one.

 

[Concrete GT]

Better throttle response doesnt automatically mean it's faster either. Also the throttle input change could be attributed to the tune revision. There is zero evidence proving anything unfortunately. Thats whats being said.

I would equate part of the faster response off the line as well as the OP stating "better recovery" between gears to the possibility that his car was sucking hot underhood air through the open CAI before where as now it is pulling ambient air quicker off the line anyway. A tune cannot help it get cooler air faster, right?
I will also say once I opened my grill up and installed a performance filter my car not only responds better from the get go, it doesn't stumble going from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd under hard acceleration when using the paddles to shift or at least it hasn't in the 3 weeks since I done the "mods". It used to do it quite often especially when it was hot outside and sitting at a redlight:shrug:

 

[Choking_Victim]

It's also on a completely different tune......for what it's worth..stoked he got into the 11s

 

[craigsix]

A couple pics of the air cleaner and exposure to the grille intake portion of the system.

i wonder in heavy rain on the highway if the filter would get wet?

 

[Stang Racer]

Great pass getting into the 11`s:clap2: Thanks for the info very interested in this true CAI

 

[GTBOB]

A couple key notes and some opinions on this thread, so people don't have to read the whole thing:

I was looking for an intake system that not a lot of people knew about and could potential lower IAT temps. I had initial concern of this Injen intake because the maf readings were lower over the Roush (less flow seen by the ecu) and even advised not go out and buy one just yet. The tune I was using at that point was a Lund tune for the Roush, and it was 8 months old.

Sent Lund some data logs because the Injen inner diameter at the maf sensor is slightly larger. Lund sent me a revised tune, then another revision off of that one. Still not being the final revision, I took it to the track and the car ran it's best time. Maf readings are now higher vs. the 8 month old Roush intake tune. I am currently on my 3rd revision for this Injen intake as of this morning 5/09/16. I will be sending data logs for this newest one hopefully today. Greg at Lund has been very helpful throughout. Ohio weather is crap right now so we will see if I can get a 3rd gear pull without wrapping it around a guardrail.


I believe that most of the intake setups for the GTs, WITH the stock intake manifold, will result in the same amount of overall power. BUT, you still need to get a tune for whatever you decide on. I think there is enough difference between them all (Steeda, JLT, blah blah blah) that this is beneficial on your part. Tuning gets better over time so take advantage of that too. Decent tuners should learn new advantages over time.

With the weather being what it is right now, I need to climb under the car and modify my factory connection point from the headers. I believe it goes from 3" collector to 2 1/4" factory choke to my 2 1/2" h-pipe currently. I'll take out that 2 1/4" part. Then I hope to make it back to the track this coming Friday for some more results.

So far I am happy with the results. I just didn't want to go "backwards" with a new intake. Glad to be in the 11sec club for sure! My ultimate goal would be to get a CJ manifold but I think Lund would kill me right now LOL.

 

[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

.3 is a nice gain for an N/A car. Even if it was more geared towards the tune making the difference.

This has definitely been an informative thread. I might switch intakes if I can't stop so much of the heat soak with my steeda. I've already knocked the peak temps down a good bit and the heat soak clears much fast now.

 

[VTECSAUCE]

Wow, people's true colors are out in this thread. You have to respect the effort that was put in even if it doesn't produce perfect results. Objectively, you'd need an entire day, every intake combination w/various tunes, a track and a dyno to accurately find what works the best. It is simply unrealistic and not cost effective. Our best bet would be to look toward our vendors for such a comparison but at that point you still cant be certain they aren't getting money on the side to inflate numbers or just show bias to one intake over another. I appreciate members that take the time to show what they have done, if you don't then just don't comment. We are all well aware of the flaws in the experiments, no need to demoralize ppl for trying to help.

 

[mustang_guy]

Wow, people's true colors are out in this thread. You have to respect the effort that was put in even if it doesn't produce perfect results. Objectively, you'd need an entire day, every intake combination w/various tunes, a track and a dyno to accurately find what works the best. It is simply unrealistic and not cost effective. Our best bet would be to look toward our vendors for such a comparison but at that point you still cant be certain they aren't getting money on the side to inflate numbers or just show bias to one intake over another. I appreciate members that take the time to show what they have done, if you don't then just don't comment. We are all well aware of the flaws in the experiments, no need to demoralize ppl for trying to help.

Ive seen no posts bashing the OP. Sit down.

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