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[texasboy21]

Fog lights are not bright by design, mounted and aimed low to the ground, and illuminate the first 10-15 feet in front of the car max.

How the hell is anyone (especially truck drivers) being blinded by them??

**unless youre talking about HID retrofits, which I completely understand.

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[Hack]

No offense..but if OEM fog lights are "blinding other drivers" maybe they aren't adjusted correctly?

Fog lights - if adjusted / installed correctly - are a big advantage on dark roads where deer love to play chicken with cars.

My pet peeve is the idiots who retrofit aftermarket LED or HID headlights into housings not designed for them and blind everyone on the road.

People have this thing in their eye called an iris that gets small when adjusting to lots of incoming ambient light. When the iris is small, it's difficult to see in the dark. More light coming into the eye means the iris will get smaller.

I have no problem with people using their brights on dark roads when there's no oncoming traffic. IMO that's the best way to see deer on a dark road and that's what I do. If you want to use fog lights, that is fine as well. IMO you should turn them off when there's oncoming traffic just like switching off your high beams, however.

Fog lights are not bright by design, mounted and aimed low to the ground, and illuminate the first 10-15 feet in front of the car max.

How the hell is anyone (especially truck drivers) being blinded by them??

**unless youre talking about HID retrofits, which I completely understand.

See above. If you think you can see better with additional lights on the front of your vehicle, you should realize that those additional lights will make it more difficult for the drivers in oncoming cars to see well.

 

[Interceptor]

Glad to see I have some backup on this

 

[FISHTAIL]

I run my fogs all the time also, but I live in the middle of nowhere. I like having them on because 90%+ of my driving is on 2 lane wooded back roads with little traffic. When I don't have the extra spread of my high beams, it's nice to have the sides of the road lit where I can more easily see animals like groundhogs and raccoons/skunks before they are in the road.

That said, I do tend to turn mine off when I'm on extended highway drives on interstates and such as a courtesy to others since I don't have any use for them then.

 

[michail71]

I wonder if the default action should be for the auto high beams to not function if the fog lights are on? Or perhaps the auto high beam is smart enough to detect fog.

But in this car the fog lights make for a great turning light in dark tight corners. I just wish the headlights were directionally adaptive.

 

[michail71]

People have this thing in their eye called an iris that gets small when adjusting to lots of incoming ambient light. When the iris is small, it's difficult to see in the dark. More light coming into the eye means the iris will get smaller.

That is why I wish the dome lights had an off switch. I don't think in 30 years of driving I've ever had a car that didn't have a dome light switch.

 

[Hack]

That is why I wish the dome lights had an off switch. I don't think in 30 years of driving I've ever had a car that didn't have a dome light switch.

You can use Forscan to go into the car's setup and turn off the dome light. Then it won't come on automatically when you open the doors.

 

[jay gee]

I run my fogs all the time also, but I live in the middle of nowhere. I like having them on because 90%+ of my driving is on 2 lane wooded back roads with little traffic. When I don't have the extra spread of my high beams, it's nice to have the sides of the road lit where I can more easily see animals like groundhogs and raccoons/skunks before they are in the road.

That said, I do tend to turn mine off when I'm on extended highway drives on interstates and such as a courtesy to others since I don't have any use for them then.

I also live in a rural area so I know what you mean. There's been lot of times when a deer has jumped out from the side of the road. Then I have to slow down or stop to see if there are anymore more or fawns following mama.
Many years ago a deer jumped out from the the driver's side of the road and I hit it with the left corner of the front fender. I destroyed the fender the door as it pivoted ad knocked out all the electricals. It then ran off into the brush.

ON the on -off dome light switch thing. I read some where, maybe on this forum, a guy showed how with pics he wired in a slide switch into the front of the dome light housing. It looked like a clean mod.

I found it !

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78517

 

[Norm Peterson]

People have this thing in their eye called an iris that gets small when adjusting to lots of incoming ambient light. When the iris is small, it's difficult to see in the dark. More light coming into the eye means the iris will get smaller.

With properly aimed foglights, there shouldn't be any stray illumination above the beam cutoff. But you can get a useful amount of "fill-in" illumination on the road and off to the shoulders out to a hundred feet or so, and having more even roadway illumination does make for less tiring night-time driving.

Unfortunately, people don't always keep their lighting properly aimed, or account for heavier trunk loads that bring the forward lighting beams up.

On the other side of the coin, I think lots of people count the number of bulbs that are lit and take more than two as the sole indicator of too much light coming at them.


Norm

 

[Hack]

With properly aimed foglights, there shouldn't be any stray illumination above the beam cutoff.
Norm

If that were true, you wouldn't be able to see the fog lights if your eyes are above the beam cutoff. No light reflectors are that efficient.

You just don't drive on a lot of dark roads with no lighting, so you don't have this issue. In the city it's much less of a problem, because there's so much ambient light from street lights, etc.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Perhaps I should have said "any direct light", and I do drive on roads where some fill-in illumination makes for a noticeable improvement.

There is always a little stray light, even when there is no direct illumination. But a little (if it's little enough) isn't a problem. We do manage to cope with low beam headlights, which are at least nominally aimed a little higher. On cars, anyway. From trucks and other tall vehicles maybe not so well.


Norm

 

[wireeater]

I never get blinded by light coming from a stock OEM light. Now let's talk about all of the idiots running aftermarket bulbs in their heads/fogs/etc they are not meant to be there. There is one person on my commute whose TAILIGHTS hurt my eyes during a sunny day because they are so ridiculously bright. A lot of jacked up trucks seem to be into this retarded trend too.

 

[H@mmer]

Fog lights are *NOT* to help *YOU* see *ANYTHING*.

Fog lights are designed to cut under fog and be a "marker" for OTHER drivers to see you. That is why the stock fogs on '15-'17 Mustangs are aimed so low. They are designed to reflect off the road and forward so other drivers can see you coming even while the thick fog is obscuring your low-beams.

 

[Deleted member 33561]

I've never heard so much whining about something so small as fog lights. They are a safety feature and other peoples fog lights do not bother me.
My pet peeve is when people replace their headlights and don't know how to properly adjust them. :doh:

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