Help me plan my suspension!

[Legionofone]

So, I wanted to go over my suspension with you guys.

Initially I wanted coil overs but it seems shy of the front the rear is just an adjustable spring and adjustable shock.

I don't plan on racing just spirited driving.

I would like to stiffen things up a bit with as little NVH as possible since this is a DD.

My revised setup is...

Steeda Progressive Springs
Viking Rear shocks
Stock front shocks
Steeda Subframe aligners
Steeda Toe Links
Steeda IRS Cradle bushings
Steeda Urethane (red) diff bushings
Steeda Bumpsteer Kit
Steeda Front and rear swaybar with aluminum mounts
G-Trac K brace
Steeda Strut brace
Steeda Vertical Links
Steeda Subframe support braces.

Maybe:
BC Coilovers
Steeda Camber kit

WHEW! That is a ton of crap to throw on her but I am sick of wheel hop and want to have this car handling correctly.

With that said... I have seen some issues on the Steeda springs and some alternative ideas as far as the IRS bushings from BMR.

SO the million dollar question is, what should I get and what don't I need.

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[BMR Tech]

Do you have a PP car, or non-PP?

I noticed you said you will not be tracking the car - so I am going to go ahead and recommend to save your pennies on the Viking Shocks. The PP shocks are a great mono-tube design, and work very well considering the price point (especially if you already have them, OR can find a cheap "take-off" set)

As for the other modifications, Steeda makes great parts and those should work well.

I am bias towards our components, and feel that the user gets more value per dollar - so if you see any products from us that you are interested in, do not hesitate to ask.

BTW, big sales coming up next week. You will save some serious cash if you pull the trigger then. ;)

PS: There are a few things on that list that I don't really think you need for your goals, AND some things I feel are missing. Specifically, Rear Lower Control Arm bearings and the outer toe knuckle mono-ball upgrade.

 

[TorkN8R]

I am by no means a suspension expert. But from what I've read on this forum all those parts in your list = increased NVH. The only thing missing is the Steeda Shocks which aren't available.

If I was a cynic...I'd say Steeda put you up to this.

You should forward this question to Steeda. I'd be willing to bet that they would tell you that sounds like a perfect set up.

 

[Legionofone]

Look, I don't understand what you said about the mono ball upgrade... but it sounds like an insult to my manhood!

I wish I had the PP, If it came with the track mode stuff of the premiums I probably would have got it. I may hold off on the vikings since they are not 100% needed, but if I was to spend the money I would grab the warriors for the adjust ability.

I am DEFINITELY open to differing parts, one of the issues I run into with some of the BMR parts is incompatibility with steeda parts (IRS braces vs subframe braces).

 

[Legionofone]

I am by no means a suspension expert. But from what I've read on this forum all those parts in your list = increased NVH. The only thing missing is the Steeda Shocks which aren't available.

If I was a cynic...I'd say Steeda put you up to this. ��

You should forward this question to Steeda. I'd be willing to bet that they would tell you that sounds like a perfect set up.

Yeah... NVH uggg...

As far as the cynic, they have a nice easy website to make a build list and most of the parts I want. BMR tech was correct though in calling for the lower control arm bushing but theirs is straight up solid and I worry about the sound/noise transmission.

 

[BMR Tech]

Look, I don't understand what you said about the mono ball upgrade... but it sounds like an insult to my manhood!

I wish I had the PP, If it came with the track mode stuff of the premiums I probably would have got it. I may hold off on the vikings since they are not 100% needed, but if I was to spend the money I would grab the warriors for the adjust ability.

I am DEFINITELY open to differing parts, one of the issues I run into with some of the BMR parts is incompatibility with steeda parts (IRS braces vs subframe braces).

I can see your point about compatibility. However, I do not think you would notice much difference in, or I should say "lack of" performance by going with our full kit, compared to anyone else's. After all, our components are the most tested and proven as I type this.

On that note, we have a whole bunch of parts that we are finishing up development on. Including front and rear chassis stiffening kits. You will be amazed once you see those ;)

Here is a teaser from a while back. ;)

:clap2:

 

[Legionofone]

BMR vs Steeda, the classic battle of Red vs Blue

Can you give me a parts list of comparable modifications with BMR products with the idea of as little added NVH as possible?

 

[BMR Tech]

Sure, here is what I recommend:

BMR-SP080 Performance Springs
PP Shocks (if you can acquire those)
Stock front struts
BMR-CB005 Cradle Lockout Kit
BMR-TR005 Adjustable Toe Links
Steeda Urethane (red) Diff Insert Kit
Steeda Bumpsteer Kit (not "needed" to be honest - but nice to have)
BMR-SB043 Sway Bar Kit (comes standard with Billet Front Mounts)
BMR-ELK012 Adjustable F/R Sway Bar End Link Kit
Steeda Strut Brace (not a bad idea, but not "needed")
BMR-TCA045 Vertical Links
BMR-BK055 Rear Control Arm Mono-Ball Upgrade Kit
FRPP Knuckle to Toe Link Bearing Upgrade

I believe this list is superior, to be completely honest. And I think that it may even be cheaper, with more performance. :cheers:

 

[Legionofone]

Thank you! Time for fun with spreadsheets!

 

[TrackpackGT]

Another option is the Ford Racing Performance Parts suspension "kits". They offer a "street" set up as well as one more oriented towards the track, but still daily driveable. They include an upgraded shock that is "better" than the PP shocks.
Check them out here: https://fordperformanceracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=24996
I recommend Mike R. at Autonation Ford, another sponsor on the site. BMR, Steeda, and Ford all offer great stuff, probably can't go wrong with any of it. It's all a matter of personal preference and intent for your car. Kelly is always quick to offer assistance and his products are top notch, and TJ at Steeda is usually available. You can't beat that personal touch those two offer.

 

[David@Steeda]

So, I wanted to go over my suspension with you guys.

Initially I wanted coil overs but it seems shy of the front the rear is just an adjustable spring and adjustable shock.

I don't plan on racing just spirited driving.

I would like to stiffen things up a bit with as little NVH as possible since this is a DD.

My revised setup is...

Steeda Progressive Springs
Viking Rear shocks
Stock front shocks
Steeda Subframe aligners
Steeda Toe Links
Steeda IRS Cradle bushings
Steeda Urethane (red) diff bushings
Steeda Bumpsteer Kit
Steeda Front and rear swaybar with aluminum mounts
G-Trac K brace
Steeda Strut brace
Steeda Vertical Links
Steeda Subframe support braces.

Maybe:
BC Coilovers
Steeda Camber kit

WHEW! That is a ton of crap to throw on her but I am sick of wheel hop and want to have this car handling correctly.

With that said... I have seen some issues on the Steeda springs and some alternative ideas as far as the IRS bushings from BMR.

SO the million dollar question is, what should I get and what don't I need.

PS: Willing to pledge unwavering support for discounts

Hey, happy to help! Looking at your list, it may be a good idea to start out in phases. I never recommend throwing every single one of our parts at the car right off the bat, although some customers do prefer to go that route.

A great starting point would be our springs and adjustable sway bars with billet ends. Regarding spring type, if you're not really looking to track the car, we would recommend progressives for daily driving comfort. There's a reason we can't keep these on the shelf

I agree with Kelly on holding off on the Viking shocks for now. We also have something in the works which we know you'll be content with. ;)

Wheel hop-wise, many customers state a 75-80% reduction in wheel hop with our subframe bushing support system alone. Pairing it with the alignment kit is a no brainer to ensure your subframe is aligned properly.

Our subframe support braces are a very, very popular wheel hop reduction mod as well. You may be totally content with just these two IRS parts I've mentioned. If wheel hop is still present, time to swap in our vertical links - you'll see why when you compare them to the factory ones.

If a little NVH is okay with you, our urethane differential bushing inserts are a great option - plus they are removable, which our customers love. They really do stiffen up the differential!

Any recent issues on the Steeda springs have been due to installation issues. It's a numbers game, if we have hundreds upon hundreds of people running our springs (or anyone else's), there are going to be a few that have issues due to mis-installation. It happens. We're here to assist where we can when it does.

Of course Steeda and BMR are going to think each has the best parts, and rightfully so! Chances are you'll be happy with either route, although of course I will recommend Steeda because I see how much R&D and countless hours upon hours of testing go into each and every part. I also like to pride myself on customer service and availability, which I know Kelly does as well.

I'm here for the long haul, and enjoy building the relationship and seeing your car transform along the way!

I am by no means a suspension expert. But from what I've read on this forum all those parts in your list = increased NVH. The only thing missing is the Steeda Shocks which aren't available.

If I was a cynic...I'd say Steeda put you up to this. ��

You should forward this question to Steeda. I'd be willing to bet that they would tell you that sounds like a perfect set up.

Not sure what you're basing this statement off of, but we are very NVH-conscious here at Steeda. We design all of our parts with NVH in mind, and if it's increased in any way, we let you know.

 

[Legionofone]

Thank you!

The only reason I wanted to do a bunch at once is so I only need to do 1 alignment and be done with that.

Do you have any idea on a timeline for the Steeda dampers?

 

[Todd15Fastback]

I am by no means a suspension expert. But from what I've read on this forum all those parts in your list = increased NVH. The only thing missing is the Steeda Shocks which aren't available.

If I was a cynic...I'd say Steeda put you up to this. ��

You should forward this question to Steeda. I'd be willing to bet that they would tell you that sounds like a perfect set up.

I have a ton of Steeda suspension parts on my car and have since May. Put 4k miles on them since the install. There is ZERO NVH from all the parts. It is quiet as a 100% bone stock car. This includes hitting bumps, pot holes, taking corners at high speed while the suspension is under full load.

 

[David@Steeda]

Thank you!

The only reason I wanted to do a bunch at once is so I only need to do 1 alignment and be done with that.

Do you have any idea on a timeline for the Steeda dampers?

Gotcha! I'm always advising our customers the best way to tackle their build while keeping it to one alignment.

I can certainly give you a timeframe, pm incoming!

 

[908ssp]

I have a PP car and have the BMR springs. I want Bilstein shocks front and rear when they become available. Honestly I don't think it needs anything else if you're not racing from a dead stop. I have 550rwhp and always push it from a roll and have never had a hint of wheel hop. Maybe it is the 315 Michelins.

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