Help me convince my mom

[SynisterGT]

They are not buying this car for him. It is gonna be his dad's car they are just letting him drive it as well as his sister.

My parents did the same when we got our 07 GT. I had it until I bought my 12 then my dad took it. My brother currently drives it because my dad can't take being in a low car because of his back.

Either way it doesn't matter. The auto will be fun because it has the sport mode.

Just tell your mom the same thing Peter Griffin did: "C'mon, c'mon."

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[JolleyRoger]

They are not buying this car for him. It is gonna be his dad's car they are just letting him drive it as well as his sister.

My parents did the same when we got our 07 GT. I had it until I bought my 12 then my dad took it. My brother currently drives it because my dad can't take being in a low car because of his back.

Either way it doesn't matter. The auto will be fun because it has the sport mode.

Just tell your mom the same thing Peter Griffin did: "C'mon, c'mon."

That is not at all what he wrote in the orginal post, it is one hell of an incentive to go to college though.

 

[Lord Thunder]

If your parents want your sister to drive a car, why don't they buy HER a car then?

Sorry, it sounds like a stupid thing to do. My parents would give us both half the money and make us work for the rest. (or we would have to buy a really cheap car)

You sound like a spoiled kid to me, sorry. You original post reads to me like "I am getting a free car, but it's not good enough." And why would you need an incentive for getting into college? It's your future, aren't you glad about that?

 

[JoeDogInKC]

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The OP didn't ask for your sanctimonious self-righteous opinions on what he should do with his life, career or education. He asked for legitimate reasons (not lies) that he could use to convince his Mom that a Manual is a better choice. If you don't have anything constructive to add to answering the OP's question, then, like your Parents taught you: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything."
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[stoli]

Well I'm dude, my dad didn't had any money when he was young either, I'm just trying to get the manual (with is cheaper ) instead of the auto, not a big deal, I even asked them to give me a bmw series 1 wicho costs almost 20k less but they want the mustang, I don't know why some people get mad just because I'm trying to convince my mom to get the manual, it's just a choice, if we get the auto is ok, it's like the color it doesn't really matters, what matters is that it is a mustang

What people are mad at is you are being given $35,000 and are whining over a stick v. automatic. Many of us may have had to work careers for years before we could afford one and here you are truly looking a gift horse in the mouth and bitching about it publicly.

Be thankful you and your sister are spoiled kids and take what they give you graciously.

(You try to justify the stick because it's cheaper, an 02 civic mt is a LOT cheaper too)

 

[Phlyguy]

I'm really not trying to be a jerk here or lay on a guilt trip...just listen. Look at that sentence you wrote and tell me you're ready or focused for college. There is an old military saying..."pay attention to detail". This discipline encompasses everything. It could be writing a sentence on an internet forum or involve large life decisions like a new car. Don't you think your parents would be more proud of you and you proud of yourself by not burdening them with a new car? It sounds like they are paying for your school as well. Do the right thing; earn your own way in life.

Do yourself and your parents a favor and get a beater car and focus on what matters in your life at your age. Mustangs and such will come with time...you should earn them....yourself.

Rant off.....

This is probably not the place to sound off about the virtues of making life's decisions (after all it is a thread about automatic versus stick) but I have to concur with my esteemed colleague Angry Irishman here. Your parent's are giving YOU and brand new 2015 Mustang for just getting INTO COLLEGE and you're in a quandary over stick versus automatic so your sister can borrow it? Son...simple solution here LET YOUR PARENTS DECIDE (it's their car):clap2:

 

[K-Roll302]

Looks like I'll be the other college kid to respond to this thread. I'm a 19 year-old engineering student, and I see and understand the situation with the OP and everyone's response.

Now, to the OP, please be calm when you're reading these posts if you aren't; these guys are much older than the two of us(no offense), and you have to understand where they're coming from. Most of them grew up in a time when everything wasn't always handed to them; rather, they had to work for every single penny and even then, some couldn't always get what they wanted, and could only get what was given to them. With no complaints whatsoever, they had to live with it and work and work more and more to finally have the money to get what they really wanted: Mustangs being the prime example here.

What they're trying to say, but maybe it's not coming across correctly, is that even if you wanted a BMW 1-series, or a Mustang GT, it's still an expensive car, and while I'm damn sure that the manual would be fun as hell, and even more fun than the auto, it's still a brand-spanking new Mustang GT, and that's a big deal. Let's also be honest here, I don't mean to play devil's advocate, but I think it's clear that even though you could teach your sister how to drive stick, and that would be a nice gesture and a vital piece of information for her, you really want the manual because YOU want to drive manual; and that's alright, but if the auto is the only way to have a Mustang, then I'd take it. It may be the only way to compromise if you/they want one. The problem wasn't that you were getting a Mustang, but it appeared as though you were coming off as a spoiled person with a $35k+ Mustang and BMW and such; you didn't appear to be humble about it is all. And that's not to say you're not, we don't know you in real life, and this is just the internet, but sometimes what you type can be negatively received, just a thought.

And while I have no problem with you wanting the manual over the auto, and you have the right to debate that with your parents, remember that it is your parent's money, and they make the final decision in the end, no matter what it may be. That being said, you could do what I did; which was to have my parents sign out a loan on the car of my choice(limited to $25k for me), and I went ahead and got a Focus ST, and I make the monthly payments myself with my money and job, and I also modify it too. Unfortunately, I didn't wait for the '15 and could have gotten a V6, but I digress, and am happy with what I've got now, including my '84 Porsche 944 which I bought in cash with my own money just a couple weeks ago.

And when I graduate in a couple of years and hopefully get a job at Ford, I'll be looking to order a Mustang GT as my first pony car!

That being said, perhaps you could use some sort of financial agreement like I did to get the manual instead of the auto; perhaps you could agree to pay for the car monthly(unless they're paying fully in cash). Teaching your sister could also help as well; the safety of not being able to text and drive with a phone in your hand(but SYNC might make that irrelevant), and not many people in our generation know how to drive a stick, so it's an extra(almost free) anti-theft feature! But I will say that the manual being cheaper than the auto(only about $1000-1500 cheaper) isn't a good argument, assuming your parents are quite wealthy.

 

[billq]

Looks like I'll be the other college kid to respond to this thread. I'm a 19 year-old engineering student, and I see and understand the situation with the OP and everyone's response.

Now, to the OP, please be calm when you're reading these posts if you aren't; these guys are much older than the two of us(no offense), and you have to understand where they're coming from. Most of them grew up in a time when everything wasn't always handed to them; rather, they had to work for every single penny and even then, some couldn't always get what they wanted, and could only get what was given to them. With no complaints whatsoever, they had to live with it and work and work more and more to finally have the money to get what they really wanted: Mustangs being the prime example here.

What they're trying to say, but maybe it's not coming across correctly, is that even if you wanted a BMW 1-series, or a Mustang GT, it's still an expensive car, and while I'm damn sure that the manual would be fun as hell, and even more fun than the auto, it's still a brand-spanking new Mustang GT, and that's a big deal. Let's also be honest here, I don't mean to play devil's advocate, but I think it's clear that even though you could teach your sister how to drive stick, and that would be a nice gesture and a vital piece of information for her, you really want the manual because YOU want to drive manual; and that's alright, but if the auto is the only way to have a Mustang, then I'd take it. It may be the only way to compromise if you/they want one. The problem wasn't that you were getting a Mustang, but it appeared as though you were coming off as a spoiled person with a $35k+ Mustang and BMW and such; you didn't appear to be humble about it is all. And that's not to say you're not, we don't know you in real life, and this is just the internet, but sometimes what you type can be negatively received, just a thought.

And while I have no problem with you wanting the manual over the auto, and you have the right to debate that with your parents, remember that it is your parent's money, and they make the final decision in the end, no matter what it may be. That being said, you could do what I did; which was to have my parents sign out a loan on the car of my choice(limited to $25k for me), and I went ahead and got a Focus ST, and I make the monthly payments myself with my money and job, and I also modify it too. Unfortunately, I didn't wait for the '15 and could have gotten a V6, but I digress, and am happy with what I've got now, including my '84 Porsche 944 which I bought in cash with my own money just a couple weeks ago.

And when I graduate in a couple of years and hopefully get a job at Ford, I'll be looking to order a Mustang GT as my first pony car!

That being said, perhaps you could use some sort of financial agreement like I did to get the manual instead of the auto; perhaps you could agree to pay for the car monthly(unless they're paying fully in cash). Teaching your sister could also help as well; the safety of not being able to text and drive with a phone in your hand(but SYNC might make that irrelevant), and not many people in our generation know how to drive a stick, so it's an extra(almost free) anti-theft feature! But I will say that the manual being cheaper than the auto(only about $1000-1500 cheaper) isn't a good argument, assuming your parents are quite wealthy.

For someone only 19, you sure have your head screwed on right. Well said, with consideration for both the old guys and young!

 

[Niko Chester]

For someone only 19, you sure have your head screwed on right. Well said, with consideration for both the old guys and young!

My thoughts exactly. What a great post from a 19 year old guy. I am so impressed.

 

[Seabee1973]

Looks like I'll be the other college kid to respond to this thread. I'm a 19 year-old engineering student, and I see and understand the situation with the OP and everyone's response.

Now, to the OP, please be calm when you're reading these posts if you aren't; these guys are much older than the two of us(no offense), and you have to understand where they're coming from. Most of them grew up in a time when everything wasn't always handed to them; rather, they had to work for every single penny and even then, some couldn't always get what they wanted, and could only get what was given to them. With no complaints whatsoever, they had to live with it and work and work more and more to finally have the money to get what they really wanted: Mustangs being the prime example here.

What they're trying to say, but maybe it's not coming across correctly, is that even if you wanted a BMW 1-series, or a Mustang GT, it's still an expensive car, and while I'm damn sure that the manual would be fun as hell, and even more fun than the auto, it's still a brand-spanking new Mustang GT, and that's a big deal. Let's also be honest here, I don't mean to play devil's advocate, but I think it's clear that even though you could teach your sister how to drive stick, and that would be a nice gesture and a vital piece of information for her, you really want the manual because YOU want to drive manual; and that's alright, but if the auto is the only way to have a Mustang, then I'd take it. It may be the only way to compromise if you/they want one. The problem wasn't that you were getting a Mustang, but it appeared as though you were coming off as a spoiled person with a $35k+ Mustang and BMW and such; you didn't appear to be humble about it is all. And that's not to say you're not, we don't know you in real life, and this is just the internet, but sometimes what you type can be negatively received, just a thought.

And while I have no problem with you wanting the manual over the auto, and you have the right to debate that with your parents, remember that it is your parent's money, and they make the final decision in the end, no matter what it may be. That being said, you could do what I did; which was to have my parents sign out a loan on the car of my choice(limited to $25k for me), and I went ahead and got a Focus ST, and I make the monthly payments myself with my money and job, and I also modify it too. Unfortunately, I didn't wait for the '15 and could have gotten a V6, but I digress, and am happy with what I've got now, including my '84 Porsche 944 which I bought in cash with my own money just a couple weeks ago.

And when I graduate in a couple of years and hopefully get a job at Ford, I'll be looking to order a Mustang GT as my first pony car!

That being said, perhaps you could use some sort of financial agreement like I did to get the manual instead of the auto; perhaps you could agree to pay for the car monthly(unless they're paying fully in cash). Teaching your sister could also help as well; the safety of not being able to text and drive with a phone in your hand(but SYNC might make that irrelevant), and not many people in our generation know how to drive a stick, so it's an extra(almost free) anti-theft feature! But I will say that the manual being cheaper than the auto(only about $1000-1500 cheaper) isn't a good argument, assuming your parents are quite wealthy.

You do not sound like the typical 19yo for sure... the kind of people I like to hang around with for that matter... you definitely seem like you have your head on straight.... I grew up being around people much older than myself and it seems as I get older I try to grasp back a bit of my younger years though I do hang with all.. it's pretty selective...lol.... good job guy!

 

[Niko Chester]

K-Roll302 -- you are a keeper.

 

[K-Roll302]

For someone only 19, you sure have your head screwed on right. Well said, with consideration for both the old guys and young!

Thank you sir! Reading this thread, I couldn't really side with one group alone(if we think of this as adults vs. kid), I had to see both sides to write my argument. The way I see it, no one is at fault here, but no side is right either. A compromise is the best solution in my opinion. The older folks here were right in the sense that we need to work for what we want, so as to learn to be self-reliant and independents; but the kid's still a kid, just like me, growing up in a world much different from the one that the older members grew up in. We've been given much more than I should think we can deserve, but when this is the way you're raised, it kinda becomes a way of life for some, and it can only be helped by life experiences that say otherwise.

While we don't know how the OP was raised, I've been growing up in a middle-class family that's been doing it's best to provide me with the education I need to be successful in life, but also gift me with some awesome things that I'm very thankful for, and cars are no exception.

I hope that the OP takes something from this thread as a lesson he can use later in life. But also, to take the rough with the smooth, with maybe even a grain of salt, and soldier on.

 

[K-Roll302]

You do not sound like the typical 19yo for sure... the kind of people I like to hang around with for that matter... you definitely seem like you have your head on straight.... I grew up being around people much older than myself and it seems as I get older I try to grasp back a bit of my younger years though I do hang with all.. it's pretty selective...lol.... good job guy!

Thanks!
I grew up in a similar fashion myself; My parents, my dad and his brothers specifically, are car enthusiasts of the older generation, and spending my time around them is the reason I'm the way I am today; they'd tell me stories of drag racing on the streets of Ohio, with big blocks and nitrous and such, and how much more fun cars were back in the day; it really left an impression on me and I wouldn't have it any other way!

K-Roll302 -- you are a keeper.

Thank you Niko. I'm generally a Porsche kid with an affinity for Ford, but you all make me feel very welcome in the Mustang community, and I haven't even had my first pony yet; thank you very much! :ford:

 

[garagelogic]

:amen:

Or, you can tell your parents you don't deserve a car for getting INTO college, you'd prefer to get a gift like that for GRADUATING from college.

My son is graduating high school in May, and my graduation gift to him is a car, but it is a 1990 Mustang LX 5.0 notchback that we are in the process of building together. Not only is he learning mechanical/technical skills in the process he will have a dependable, paid for car that is unlikely to depreciate while he is in school.

 

[BlastedCorpse]

I'm really not trying to be a jerk here or lay on a guilt trip...just listen. Look at that sentence you wrote and tell me you're ready or focused for college. There is an old military saying..."pay attention to detail". This discipline encompasses everything. It could be writing a sentence on an internet forum or involve large life decisions like a new car. Don't you think your parents would be more proud of you and you proud of yourself by not burdening them with a new car? It sounds like they are paying for your school as well. Do the right thing; earn your own way in life.

Do yourself and your parents a favor and get a beater car and focus on what matters in your life at your age. Mustangs and such will come with time...you should earn them....yourself.

Rant off.....

QFMFT. As a 22 year old college student I couldn't agree more. I bought a '12 GT when I got into college and I ended up wrapping it around a tree. Not to mention the financial burden it became, with a 25k/year job. Even if you get this car for free, maintenance, Gas, tires, and Insurance are not gonna be cheap. Even then, if your parents end up paying for those as well, its still not gonna be as rewarding as busting your ass off and buying it on your own. Not to mention it could end up being a tool used to control you (taking it away if you get bad grades or are a troublemaker while off at school). I'd pass and ask for a beater or a nice Mini Cooper and buy this once you're done with school.

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