Guys, should I get the performance package?

[Elvis has a Mustang]

I will qualify this with I don't own one yet...don't want to get chastised.

I drove both a PP and Non-PP back to back a few weekends ago. I could easily tell the difference in handling in the turns between the two. But the ride of the PP really didn't faze me much, i thoug it rode real nice but we got pretty decent roads here. I think a couple things on the PP are worth it, the brakes, loved those over the stock brakes and yes I could easily tell the difference. I also like the idea of a larger radiator. A set of brembro's is what 3k+.

When I get mine I'll eventually change some suspension stuff and maybe even wheels but it will be long after it sees the track and I figure out what I really need or want to do.

Your good man. You don't come on here and act like ass. I think you're spot on about the Brembo's. That's the only thing my car doesn't have that I wish it did.
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[mustang_guy]

Judging by your past post, you did come here to argue and tell people how much money you make.

yes because i checked people about their pipe dreams about bmws makes me here to argue. Im a bmw master tech. Im qualified they weren't. Deal with it. I dont need your approval for my blunt nature. Go do something already. Also stop judging. You clearly havent read enough of my post. You harassing me isnt accomplishing anything.

 

[Elvis has a Mustang]

yes because i checked people about their pipe dreams about bmws makes me here to argue. Im a bmw master tech. Im qualified they weren't. Deal with it. I dont need your approval for my blunt nature. Go do something already. Also stop judging. You clearly havent read enough of my post. You harassing me isnt accomplishing anything.

Are we talking the post where you claim to work for BMW but really just work for a dealer? That post? That's like working for Little Cesar's and saying you're part of the Detroit Tigers organization. Big difference. And let's face it, for you being " blunt" is an excuse for being an assbag to people.

 

[Khyber]

Thank you for your reply.
I still need to drive the PP.
My only gripe about the PP over the 3.31 stock 6-speed or even 3.55 gears if the usability of the lower gears in town, if the car will just be spinning around everywhere in the rain (rains here a lot, though I do have a daily), and if it'll burn too much fuel on a road trip or highway driving compared to the stock 6-speed gearing.

seriously gear ratio is last thing you should be worried about even in a dd situation... unless you like 5mpg and shifting at 6500k every gear... you're gonna be shifting at a low rpm anyways regardless of the ratio. 90% people prob can't even tell the difference between 55 and 73 until they race on a track, especially a road course in case of the pp. seriously...

i still don't understand why people get stuck the 55 vs 73 thing. This forum has been beating this horse for a while. For a DD obeying the speed limit, it really ain't going to mean a lickety dang split of a difference.

 

[mustang_guy]

Are we talking the post where you claim to work for BMW but really just work for a dealer? That post? That's like working for Little Cesar's and saying you're part of the Detroit Tigers organization. Big difference. And let's face it, for you being " blunt" is an excuse for being an assbag to people.

i do work at bmw. A bmw dealer. pardon me for not specifically saying i dont work at bmw of america or their corporate office. I dont think i should have had to. This isnt rocket science. Go be obnoxious else were. Blunt is not another excuse for being an "assbag" to people. I get along fine with majority of people. If you dont offend some people in your life, youre a push over. So ive upset some bmw fanboys and some people in this thread. This isnt highschool, its not a popularity contest. Ive done fine with the majority of the other members. Youll find more happiness if youre not afraid of everyones feelings all the time. If you cant be an adult and handle my nature, block me. Ive given you a solution. You want to argue with me. Again stop judging me. if i was such a jerk mods would be all over me. Which none has said so much as boo. you and i are done here.

OP Sorry for the disagreement in your thread. Youll love either pp or non pp. Im unsubscribing.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I will qualify this with I don't own one yet...don't want to get chastised.

I drove both a PP and Non-PP back to back a few weekends ago. I could easily tell the difference in handling in the turns between the two. But the ride of the PP really didn't faze me much, i thoug it rode real nice but we got pretty decent roads here. I think a couple things on the PP are worth it, the brakes, loved those over the stock brakes and yes I could easily tell the difference. I also like the idea of a larger radiator. A set of brembro's is what 3k+.

When I get mine I'll eventually change some suspension stuff and maybe even wheels but it will be long after it sees the track and I figure out what I really need or want to do.

Just remember dont use those PP tires under 50 degrees or so; they can (and have per users in these forums) crack and give out.

And no, the $4k Brembo days are over for these cars. I have an auto, so no PP option, but I could go buy the 6 piston Brembo PP calipers from Tasca Ford for $250 each, rotors for $100 each (little bigger than the stock GT) and the pads for $100; so $800 in parts and an hour or 2 in the garage to swap out. The rears are the same across the GTs. I just haven't found the need to because the 4 piston (which were the high performance option on prior years including the Shelbys and Bosses) are plenty good for me personally for daily driving.

I'd rather spend the $800 at Steeda on springs, swaybars, bushings, etc. to push the suspension past the PP.

 

[hiccup]

Future s550 owners believe me you really don't want the perf package. ;) :ford::hail:

 

[Elvis has a Mustang]

i do work at bmw. A bmw dealer. pardon me for not specifically saying i dont work at bmw of america or their corporate office. I dont think i should have had to. This isnt rocket science. Go be obnoxious else were. Blunt is not another excuse for being an "assbag" to people. I get along fine with majority of people. If you dont offend some people in your life, youre a push over. So ive upset some bmw fanboys and some people in this thread. This isnt highschool, its not a popularity contest. Ive done fine with the majority of the other members. Youll find more happiness if youre not afraid of everyones feelings all the time. If you cant be an adult and handle my nature, block me. Ive given you a solution. You want to argue with me. Again stop judging me. if i was such a jerk mods would be all over me. Which none has said so much as boo. you and i are done here.

OP Sorry for the disagreement in your thread. Youll love either pp or non pp. Im unsubscribing.

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[Elvis has a Mustang]

Just remember dont use those PP tires under 50 degrees or so; they can (and have per users in these forums) crack and give out.

And no, the $4k Brembo days are over for these cars. I have an auto, so no PP option, but I could go buy the 6 piston Brembo PP calipers from Tasca Ford for $250 each, rotors for $100 each (little bigger than the stock GT) and the pads for $100; so $800 in parts and an hour or 2 in the garage to swap out. The rears are the same across the GTs. I just haven't found the need to because the 4 piston (which were the high performance option on prior years including the Shelbys and Bosses) are plenty good for me personally for daily driving.

I'd rather spend the $800 at Steeda on springs, swaybars, bushings, etc. to push the suspension past the PP.

I had no idea they were that cheap now. Then again, if what we have on automatic is similar to those older Shelby's and such, why bother. Would it make a difference if you autocross? I don't but Just wondering.

 

[SubZombie]

Thank you for your reply.
I still need to drive the PP.
My only gripe about the PP over the 3.31 stock 6-speed or even 3.55 gears if the usability of the lower gears in town, if the car will just be spinning around everywhere in the rain (rains here a lot, though I do have a daily), and if it'll burn too much fuel on a road trip or highway driving compared to the stock 6-speed gearing.

Drives fine around town. I don't even think about shifting when driving around town to be honest, but if it's a chore for you the car has plenty of torque to start in second or shift from first to third. (Thinking about it I probably shift less than I used to back when I had my last stick shift (an '03 WRX) because with the PP you can just stay in 3rd through everything that car required a down shift to second for).
You aren't going to spin the tires in the rain unless you are doing it on purpose or driving around in Track mode.
I have gone on several trips that are 3-4 hours each way, including one three days ago from Asheville, NC to VA. Going 75-80mph ~75% of the way, my trip meter that I reset before I left Asheville is right at 26mpg, and that's with me flooring it on a couple on ramps.

 

[Joextee]

Am I correct that a base 300A GT with PP has line lock?

 

[GTP]

Just remember dont use those PP tires under 50 degrees or so; they can (and have per users in these forums) crack and give out.

I want to find/start a thread comparing wide summer tires with wide A/S tires. Are the new Michelin A/S 3's now close enough to summer tires to make it worth not putting up with fast wear and high noise? (Don't answer me, or we will be off topic.)

And no, the $4k Brembo days are over for these cars. I have an auto, so no PP option, but I could go buy the 6 piston Brembo PP calipers from Tasca Ford for $250 each, rotors for $100 each (little bigger than the stock GT) and the pads for $100; so $800 in parts and an hour or 2 in the garage to swap out. The rears are the same across the GTs. I just haven't found the need to because the 4 piston (which were the high performance option on prior years including the Shelbys and Bosses) are plenty good for me personally for daily driving.

A take-off set just sold at eBay for $900. Also, it occurs to me that given equal tires, the stock GT front brakes could stop faster than Brembo's, simply from the lower inertia of the stock rotors. (I don't think that stopping distance comparison showing the PP car stopped faster had equal tires on the two cars.)

I'd rather spend the $800 at Steeda on springs, swaybars, bushings, etc. to push the suspension past the PP.

This is my thinking, too. I.e. that if I have to go DIY PP (bc of my choice for the automatic) then there is more to be gained from suspension mods than the brakes. Stopping distance is dependent more on 1) alertness, 2) road conditions, 3) tires, and 4) driver skill.

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Finally, let me ask that the flame wars stop in this thread. FWIW, I don't think Mustang_guy is out of line at all. I can be thin-skinned but I am not THAT thin-skinned. Everyone has something to contribute to this thread as opinions worth considering by the OP - EXCEPT when the bickering begins.

So ... to Mustang_guy: don't leave, and continue to tell us what you think.
To everyone else: before he gets under your skin, remember the First Amendment.

:cheers:

 

[5.0Fireman]

I will qualify this with I don't own one yet...don't want to get chastised.

I drove both a PP and Non-PP back to back a few weekends ago. I could easily tell the difference in handling in the turns between the two. But the ride of the PP really didn't faze me much, i thoug it rode real nice but we got pretty decent roads here. I think a couple things on the PP are worth it, the brakes, loved those over the stock brakes and yes I could easily tell the difference. I also like the idea of a larger radiator. A set of brembro's is what 3k+.

When I get mine I'll eventually change some suspension stuff and maybe even wheels but it will be long after it sees the track and I figure out what I really need or want to do.

I totally agree here. You can definitely tell the difference in handling but the ride is not harsh at all. But then again I compare it to a Z4M coupe. PP rides like a Cadillac compared to that. For the $ it is a bargain and anyone that even remotely thinks they may want to upgrade afterwards would get a bargain here (not to mention the warranty attached).

 

[IvanCRF]

Am I correct that a base 300A GT with PP has line lock?

Yes. Any GT will have line lock.

 

[obgod3]

Just remember dont use those PP tires under 50 degrees or so; they can (and have per users in these forums) crack and give out.

And no, the $4k Brembo days are over for these cars. I have an auto, so no PP option, but I could go buy the 6 piston Brembo PP calipers from Tasca Ford for $250 each, rotors for $100 each (little bigger than the stock GT) and the pads for $100; so $800 in parts and an hour or 2 in the garage to swap out. The rears are the same across the GTs. I just haven't found the need to because the 4 piston (which were the high performance option on prior years including the Shelbys and Bosses) are plenty good for me personally for daily driving.

I'd rather spend the $800 at Steeda on springs, swaybars, bushings, etc. to push the suspension past the PP.

I cant disagree but a couple things, first im not interested in being under my car turning a wrench, not my thing, I work on enough dirt bikes today, second Id love to see that deal if you have a link. But like I said I dont think any changes to my car if any at all will happen in the first year or more. I just want to drive it, do some track days, maybe the Silver state classic. So i think this whole thing is very personal, I believe the value is there for this package and all I was saying is that my experience driving was that there wasnt a significant difference in ride quality to me, other than that handling on the PP was noticeably better.

Oh the tires, got a guy locally that drove all winter on them here, he said there were not terrible but had to be careful. My car will never see a single snow flake. I have a truck Im happy to drive .

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