GTD allocations should be this week

[wingnutt]

I dont like it

agreed…

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[MAGS1]

When something, or someone doesn’t meet your expectations you can do one of two things. 1. Lower your expectations 2. Rip the thing/person for not living up to your expectations. There are a lot of #2’s on here.

I guess my question back to those in #2 would be what expectation(s) wasn’t/weren’t met to this point (remember, full details still haven’t been released). Ford said they were targeting sub-7 at the Ring. Accomplished that, even in less than ideal track conditions. Trackcar that is street legal? Checked that box too. It’s based on the S650, so I guess I’m not sure why some think the interior would be drastically different. Maybe the more track/race focused trims will be a little different on the interior? Unfortunately we just don’t know because nothing has been released to the public yet. And if some owners are now in their selection window, they’re under NDA and probably can’t say anything yet.

There’s only a handful of prototypes floating around right now and the full specs haven’t been released yet so I guess I would say to those folks to just wait until everything comes out. Then if you still don’t think it meets your expectations, fair enough.

I think it’s great Ford is even putting out a car like this when they don’t really have to and when others are folding up and going home. Same goes for GM, the ZR1 looks to be very impressive as well, and at a time when GM appears to be going all in on the electric movement. Those of us that love V8’s should be rooting for both of these cars to be great and successful, there’s not many remaining at this point.

I’m curious to see how much time Ford can shave off their Ring time in better conditions. If they get closer to 6:45, will some of the naysayers change their tune? Maybe, maybe not. TBD on that one.

 

[Evolvd]

I guess my question back to those in #2 would be what expectation(s) wasn’t/weren’t met to this point (remember, full details still haven’t been released). Ford said they were targeting sub-7 at the Ring. Accomplished that, even in less than ideal track conditions. Trackcar that is street legal? Checked that box too. It’s based on the S650, so I guess I’m not sure why some think the interior would be drastically different. Maybe the more track/race focused trims will be a little different on the interior? Unfortunately we just don’t know because nothing has been released to the public yet. And if some owners are now in their selection window, they’re under NDA and probably can’t say anything yet.

There’s only a handful of prototypes floating around right now and the full specs haven’t been released yet so I guess I would say to those folks to just wait until everything comes out. Then if you still don’t think it meets your expectations, fair enough.

I think it’s great Ford is even putting out a car like this when they don’t really have to and when others are folding up and going home. Same goes for GM, the ZR1 looks to be very impressive as well, and at a time when GM appears to be going all in on the electric movement. Those of us that love V8’s should be rooting for both of these cars to be great and successful, there’s not many remaining at this point.

I’m curious to see how much time Ford can shave off their Ring time in better conditions. If they get closer to 6:45, will some of the naysayers change their tune? Maybe, maybe not. TBD on that one.

Agreed, some of the comments from the naysayers are just pedantic.

 

[Bikeman315]

Agreed, some of the comments from the naysayers are just pedantic.

Read the comments in this article. Vette guys are no different than us. Some people will bitch about anything.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...licks, NON AM 90D Opens, Both Subbed Last 30D

 

[Evolvd]

Read the comments in this article. Vette guys are no different than us. Some people will bitch about anything.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63385121/2025-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-pricing/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_cdb&utm_medium=email&date=011125&utm_campaign=nl38157996&oo=&GID=ed8c053c690b41d6e6ed99bc9c5d63000b285039b68b372c2f18ae26b22d79b1&user_email=ed8c053c690b41d6e6ed99bc9c5d63000b285039b68b372c2f18ae26b22d79b1&utm_term=TEST- NEW TEST - Sending List - AM 180D Clicks, NON AM 90D Opens, Both Subbed Last 30D

I don’t care what they say either

 

[Tomster]

I can say that my interest is waining. No significant information has been conveyed to me and I have an early build (Mar thru Jun engagement). This car was supposed to BEAT the competition on its own turf (ie the GT3RS). That didn't happen. I understand that conditions weren't optimal, but it wasn't for the AMG either.

This car is going to cost a shit load of money. I still can't figure out why. It went from 300K to 320K. Rumor is that it's a built in ADM to shut the dealers up.

Then there is the weight which hasn't been disclosed yet. A heavy car eats up the brakes and tires. You can't completely negate mass. You engineer around it, but it's still there.

Back to the price. I estimate my car will be 400k with my (perceived) options. Again, zero information. I got more info working around area 51. Look around. You can buy a whole lot of car for 400K.

So far I have been very unhappy with the way this has gone so far. From the time of my acceptance, I know essentially nothing. The car is based on a steel chassis that sports the same engine that my 500 has. I have demonstrated that the same engine running at Daytona flat out runs out of gas. The GTD (last I heard from unofficial but well informed sources) says that it will have a 16 gallon tank, just like the 500.

How embarrassing would it be to not complete a session at Daytona in this car running flat out?

I am waiting until my engagement window where I will (maybe) (finally) get some information and answers.

Since I don't know anything and nothing has been provided, I have not violated my NDA.

Oh, and I appreciate not being included in the Detroit GTD event around the corner.

SMH

 

[DopamineQuest]

I can say that my interest is waining. No significant information has been conveyed to me and I have an early build (Mar thru Jun engagement). This car was supposed to BEAT the competition on its own turf (ie the GT3RS). That didn't happen. I understand that conditions weren't optimal, but it wasn't for the AMG either.

This car is going to cost a shit load of money. I still can't figure out why. It went from 300K to 320K. Rumor is that it's a built in ADM to shut the dealers up.

Then there is the weight which hasn't been disclosed yet. A heavy car eats up the brakes and tires. You can't completely negate mass. You engineer around it, but it's still there.

Back to the price. I estimate my car will be 400k with my (perceived) options. Again, zero information. I got more info working around area 51. Look around. You can buy a whole lot of car for 400K.

So far I have been very unhappy with the way this has gone so far. From the time of my acceptance, I know essentially nothing. The car is based on a steel chassis that sports the same engine that my 500 has. I have demonstrated that the same engine running at Daytona flat out runs out of gas. The GTD (last I heard from unofficial but well informed sources) says that it will have a 16 gallon tank, just like the 500.

How embarrassing would it be to not complete a session at Daytona in this car running flat out?

I am waiting until my engagement window where I will (maybe) (finally) get some information and answers.

Since I don't know anything and nothing has been provided, I have not violated my NDA.

Oh, and I appreciate not being included in the Detroit GTD event around the corner.

SMH

Yikes. I'm no where near being in a position to afford the GTD, but I cant imagine choosing it over other cars at that price point, unless I had like absolute crazy money where you can just get one of whatever you like... and I'm a diehard Mustang fan, albeit disillusioned with the s650 and the GTD.

 

[The Demon]

I can say that my interest is waining. No significant information has been conveyed to me and I have an early build (Mar thru Jun engagement). This car was supposed to BEAT the competition on its own turf (ie the GT3RS). That didn't happen. I understand that conditions weren't optimal, but it wasn't for the AMG either.

This car is going to cost a shit load of money. I still can't figure out why. It went from 300K to 320K. Rumor is that it's a built in ADM to shut the dealers up.

Then there is the weight which hasn't been disclosed yet. A heavy car eats up the brakes and tires. You can't completely negate mass. You engineer around it, but it's still there.

Back to the price. I estimate my car will be 400k with my (perceived) options. Again, zero information. I got more info working around area 51. Look around. You can buy a whole lot of car for 400K.

So far I have been very unhappy with the way this has gone so far. From the time of my acceptance, I know essentially nothing. The car is based on a steel chassis that sports the same engine that my 500 has. I have demonstrated that the same engine running at Daytona flat out runs out of gas. The GTD (last I heard from unofficial but well informed sources) says that it will have a 16 gallon tank, just like the 500.

How embarrassing would it be to not complete a session at Daytona in this car running flat out?

I am waiting until my engagement window where I will (maybe) (finally) get some information and answers.

Since I don't know anything and nothing has been provided, I have not violated my NDA.

Oh, and I appreciate not being included in the Detroit GTD event around the corner.

SMH

That sounds like an expert in the Mustang arena that they should consult before they make a car like this. I don’t blame you for not having information and being asked to pay that kind of money. They should’ve provided a lot more information about the car at this point with 2025 already rolled around.

 

[Tomster]

That sounds like an expert in the Mustang arena that they should consult before they make a car like this. I don’t blame you for not having information and being asked to pay that kind of money. They should’ve provided a lot more information about the car at this point with 2025 already rolled around.

They have their own experts. Somewhat of a rant out of frustration, but I don't regret a word. 2+2=? It has to add up.

 

[Biggsy]

I said this a few months ago but its a new month and new year so I'll say it again...

I would've liked to see a different seat model than the same seat model that's in the GT500. Something that is more bucket style. Also, I hope they offer a titanium or CF roll bar to be included in some form of track package. I dont see how a car is advertised to run on the track and a race seat and roll bar is not offered.

...its a new month and I still can't afford it but those are my 2 cents which I need a lot more of to afford just the warranty page of the owner's manual

 

[Biggsy]

oh and @Tomster I appreciate your honesty about the process so far

 

[Tomster]

oh and @Tomster I appreciate your honesty about the process so far

No problem. Many (off the record) feel the same way.

 

[MAGS1]

I’d be curious to know if there was also a similar lack of information/communication when this process occurred for the most recent generation Ford GT. If that was not the case, whoever is running the GTD process sounds like maybe they shouldn’t be

 

[Biggsy]

I could be wrong but someone can correct me on this but my theory is that Ford sold the cars before it was finished. I know it’s not an uncommon practice. Per racing rules (I forgot which sanctioning body) there must be a production variant of the race car to run in the respective GT class. That was the reason why the GT was sold to customers when it made its return. Ford wanted to enter GT3 level racing again so they developed a race car but now they had to develop a production car which they didn’t have everything fully ironed out and had to find a way to justify the MSRP.

just my thoughts.

 

[Tomster]

I’d be curious to know if there was also a similar lack of information/communication when this process occurred for the most recent generation Ford GT. If that was not the case, whoever is running the GTD process sounds like maybe they shouldn’t be

It's very similar to the Ford GT allocation process (public knowledge) and for what I understand, the same people are running the GTD Program from the perspective of allocation management (again, public knowledge).

It is what it is. Either it's going to work out or not. I've been a very good loyal Ford person all my life. When it comes to plopping down $400K, I'd like a little advance notice of information that helps me make an informed decision.

I make decisions for a living. I am responsible for a quarter billion dollar asset as well as (many) hundreds of lives each time I go to work. I held a top secret clearance working for the USAF and a motor company cant trust me with information pertinent to a major purchase choice?

Standing by for the call in March, or April, or May, or June.

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