GT350 vs. Z/28

[thePill]

It appears thePill was correct with his initial predictions on some GT350 details.

There looks like there will be a 2015 limited, Job 3 run. We assume it will be both GT350 and R. I'm not sure it will be an anniversary edition as ALL 2015's will be rare.

There was a push for the 2015 because a 2015 not only is the 50th anniversary, but because a 2015 is required to run in IMSA this season. It will be a developement year...

I had some back and forth as far back as November 2013 about a hopeful 2015 (not Mid-2014 J.). I was hoping one would have been ready sooner.

I still expect restrictions on the GT350RC (Comp or Conti). There will still be a GT350RS as well (Spec or SCCA). The place holder MSRP for the Boss 302S replacement was $89,000, just a little higher than the 302S. Makes a $50,000 base car look very possible.

Anyway, appearently these OEM GT350R's were just as fast at Laguna Seca as the last race the Boss 302R ran there. That was a 1:55.7x (which was a track record) and 1:56.2. That is a lot faster than a 2015 z28.

GT350 @ $49,995
GT350TP @ $54,995
GT350R @ $64,995

At least 500 2015 GT350's AND GT350R's will need to be made.

I think they are getting 533hp and 420tq.

3550lbs...

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[02gtnh]

Where are those race times posted?

 

[Pablo GT350]

On the last broadcast the announcer stated we should see the GT350 in the next race or two.

 

[thePill]

Updated 15 April 2015

 

[thePill]

Where are those race times posted?

Those are from Daytona, I'm not sure why it was in with VIR/LS/Sebring times. That is the range though, it just happens to be the same as Daytona. Probably the reason it was overlooked.

 

[OppoLock]

lol

That article...

Tried so hard to paint the z28 in a light of love for "old school, no-stinking-nanny-helping-me-computer, gearheads."

Guess they forgot a big part of the MR suspension [found only in "race cars", motor trend reminds us] is ran by ... A nanny?

/\ The Z/28 doesn't have MR suspension.

Oops. Alas, you are right.

Getting my Zs all mixed up. Lol

Those DSSV dampers are no joke and probably have a lot to do with the Z28's capabilities. So expensive though.

http://www.multimatic.com/structure...-suspensions-products/dssv-dampers-road-cars/

 

[68fbjjz109]

Anyway, appearently these OEM GT350R's were just as fast at Laguna Seca as the last race the Boss 302R ran there. That was a 1:55.7x (which was a track record) and 1:56.2. That is a lot faster than a 2015 z28.

Is that a certain configuration for the 1:55?

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html

Alot of these times are way below that to include the z28 and GT500.

25. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 1:37.82 133 '13 507 / 1702 Randy Pobst

29. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 1:38.70 131 '13 659 / 1750 Randy Pobst

 

[thePill]

I'm not sure how the times were confused. The times given to me were from Daytona this year, not Laguna. The 1:55.7 was run by Billy at Daytona this year, it was a track record set during the race.

I assume they ment 1:35-1:36 as that is were the Boss 302R's are at in Qualifying.

This would be the GT350R. The GT350TP should be right where the z28 is at.

I am not aware of any runs made on the CTSC configuration at Daytona. It was at Sebring but not Daytona if I remember right.

 

[Stuntman]

I'm not sure how the times were confused. The times given to me were from Daytona this year, not Laguna. The 1:55.7 was run by Billy at Daytona this year, it was a track record set during the race.

I assume they ment 1:35-1:36 as that is were the Boss 302R's are at in Qualifying.

This would be the GT350R. The GT350TP should be right where the z28 is at.

I am not aware of any runs made on the CTSC configuration at Daytona. It was at Sebring but not Daytona if I remember right.

Just to clarify some things:

-You claimed an OEM GT350R is just as fast as a 302R at Laguna Seca. Lap time and proof?
-You confused a Daytona CTSCC lap time with Laguna Seca. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
-The fastest race lap of the 2015 BMW Performance 200 was a 1:57.314 -not a 1:55.7

 

[thePill]

Just to clarify some things:

-You claimed an OEM GT350R is just as fast as a 302R at Laguna Seca. Lap time and proof?
-You confused a Daytona CTSCC lap time with Laguna Seca. Not sure what point you were trying to make.
-The fastest race lap of the 2015 BMW Performance 200 was a 1:57.314 -not a 1:55.7

I'm not sure how CTSC performs now with restriction, I quit watching after all the restrictions went into effect and rules were tailored for the z28. We are talking Flying laps, not in traffic.

It is about 2.5 seconds faster than a 2014 z28 or very close to the Base Z06 C6. Both the Boss 302R and M3 were solid 1:35 cars before restriction.

It will be a sad day for the z28...

I would be happy if it got close to the 458 and GT-R @ 1:35.2. It has an outstanding PtW.

 

[Stuntman]

I'm not sure how CTSC performs now with restriction, I quit watching after all the restrictions went into effect and rules were tailored for the z28. We are talking Flying laps, not in traffic.

It is about 2.5 seconds faster than a 2014 z28 or very close to the Base Z06 C6. Both the Boss 302R and M3 were solid 1:35 cars before restriction.

It will be a sad day for the z28...

I would be happy if it got close to the 458 and GT-R @ 1:35.2. It has an outstanding PtW.

The 302R has not been restricted all year and they have not done so well. IMSA keeps adding weight and restricting the Z28 but it does not seem to be slowing them down.

You're very vague in your posts. Can you clarify what cars you're talking about street cars or CTSCC cars and specifically what track since it seems your jumping back and fourth between Daytona race times and Laguna street car times...

 

[thePill]

The 302R has not been restricted all year and they have not done so well. IMSA keeps adding weight and restricting the Z28 but it does not seem to be slowing them down.

You're very vague in your posts. Can you clarify what cars you're talking about street cars or CTSCC cars and specifically what track since it seems your jumping back and fourth between Daytona race times and Laguna street car times...

I'm vague because that is the info I get... I could locate these rebels and torture them.

All you need to know is, Ford laid waste to the z28 at Laguna Seca. I doubt they will even release times for any tracks.



...and NO, the Boss 302R's had their restrictions removed on April 15th 2015. Because they weren't doing very well with a 57mm tube against an unrestricted, 500hp z28. Nobody was... Even the M3 had its restrictions lessened.

 

[Stuntman]

I'm vague because that is the info I get... I could locate these rebels and torture them.

All you need to know is, Ford laid waste to the z28 at Laguna Seca. I doubt they will even release times for any tracks.

...and NO, the Boss 302R's had their restrictions removed on April 15th 2015. Because they weren't doing very well with a 57mm tube against an unrestricted, 500hp z28. Nobody was... Even the M3 had its restrictions lessened.

You can't get your sources or information straight. What else is new?

No they weren't. Quit making things up to further support your GM-hating propoganda. The January 14, 2015 SCRs show there was no restrictor on the 302R for the season opener at Daytona while the Z28 had a 68mm restrictor. If you're actually looking at the SCR rules (which I highly doubt by your constantly incorrect statements), changes to the SCR are made in red.

 

[thePill]

No, your wrong. The CTSC Rulebook was updated in Feb 2015. As usual, I posted that info here. Sorry, wrong again... The Boss had a 57mm restrictor in February. I made a point to call it out again. Again, in Feb 2015, the z28 had a 75mm tube. You just make shit up as you go?

Chevy couldn't build a proper competitor for CTSC. Now they got hit with lethal restrictions.

Maybe you should pay more attention to what I post instead of trying to discredit every punctuation mark. You have been incredibly wrong on most occasions and it's getting repetitive.

 

[thePill]

If Chevy would have taken the time to build an great competitive z28, none of this would have happened. They removed everything the OEM z28 was and Pratt built a new car to be competitive.

Furthermore, IMSA provided the z28 with an advantage day 1. Is that how you cater to a manufacturer that only started testing the Z/28.R 5 days before Daytona? That's bullshit and another reason I'm glad these z28's have been grounded, still not enough in my opinion.

The race weight is funny... 3575lbs is not light. God the 5th Gen sucked...

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