Grabber Yellow undesirable?

[Jaymar]

Take this with a grain of salt, but that's terrible logic. Just because there's a disparity with statistics, doesn't mean that there's automatically an implicit bias and starting off with that idea/conclusion is frankly spurious and wrong.

You'll find all sorts of demographic and categorical disparities in statistics, many of them even more pronounced than what you observed here.

For instance, I'm sure that stats would bear out that men are cited, arrested, charged, convicted, sentenced and imprisoned much more than women. Is that because the cops that enforce the laws are a bunch of man hating feminists? Are the courts a bunch of activist pro-women overlords who give women special treatment? Or is it possible that men break the law more than women? A man is something like 11 times more likely to be imprisoned by the state. Are we to automatically conclude there's systemic discrimination?

Women are 4 times more likely to be involved in an auto crash/incident than men. While men are about 4 time more likely to be involved in a crash fatality. Reasonable conclusions from those sort of studies arrive that women are less skilled than men at driving, but men tend to be more impulsive and impetuous and reckless in their decision making. Women tend to back into people at the grocery store parking lot. Men tend to make irrational and dangerous decisions at speed.

The point is, it MAY be that officers aren't showing any preferential or partial treatment toward one color or the other, but the owner/operator of the vehicles make different choices that have connections to the color and style of car they drive. It's certainly possible that officers simply target and cite brighter colored vehicles. But it's also just as possible that drivers of those vehicles make different choices. The reality is that the truth is probably somewhere in between (leaning more toward driver choices).

I'm all for statistical analysis but in our society today, everyone is much to apt to start with the wrong conclusion and find stats/facts that fit their agenda/narrative. As Mark Twain stated..."There are lies, damned lies and statistics."

Are you saying people that want to find bias themselves may have a bias toward finding it? Sorry if the sarcasm doesn't come through but I completely agree, statistics are only as good as the circumstances surrounding them which oftentimes is itself flawed.

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[zstanny]

I would try to sell on the forums, facebook marketplace, cargurus private sell before trading. Will you make more than what you'd save on taxes trading? I think you definitely could.

People love or hate that type of color. They're usually short runs, and a low percentage of total production at that. Someone who loves it, is likely to pay a reasonable price for it over a color they're "OK" with.

 

[Angrey]

Are you saying people that want to find bias themselves may have a bias toward finding it? Sorry if the sarcasm doesn't come through but I completely agree, statistics are only as good as the circumstances surrounding them which oftentimes is itself flawed.

"If you torture it long and hard enough, the data will confess to anything."

I'm saying that we have a big problem in modern America where people observe a statistical disparity and the underlying ASSUMPTION is that it results from some sort of evil, systemic, hidden or open discrimination or bias.

The equal pay movement for women.
The number of minority coaches in the NFL

There's plenty of examples whereby someone starts with WANTING to believe that it's rooted in discrimination, and completely dismisses the idea that maybe there's some underlying behavior/choice involved. Many times these prima facia disparities do not survive when you stand them next to other disparities that they simply ignore or explain away through rational behavior.

 

[Balr14]

"If you torture it long and hard enough, the data will confess to anything."

I'm saying that we have a big problem in modern America where people observe a statistical disparity and the underlying ASSUMPTION is that it results from some sort of evil, systemic, hidden or open discrimination or bias.

The equal pay movement for women.
The number of minority coaches in the NFL

There's plenty of examples whereby someone starts with WANTING to believe that it's rooted in discrimination, and completely dismisses the idea that maybe there's some underlying behavior/choice involved. Many times these prima facia disparities do not survive when you stand them next to other disparities that they simply ignore or explain away through rational behavior.

I had no bias and was not attempting to prove anything. Somebody asked if deputies ticketed red cars more than any other, they said no. So, it was just an exercise to see.

 

[stannypack]

probably because people who drive flashy cars tend to drive fast i.e. self selection bias

 

[2016S550]

They ticket the ones that go fast. Period.

 

[Balr14]

probably because people who drive flashy cars tend to drive fast i.e. self selection bias

Exactly. The little study simply provided some food for thought. That point was raised.

 

[tnk_2]

I would look up the kbb value of the car trade in and I believe you can also choose color too. Then, go to the dealer ask them to give you what kbb said trade in value is. I have done this with all my trade in and always get it. Dealerships always deny it at first, but at the end they accept it.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

I own a 2021 PP Grabber Yellow mustang and I been thinking about trading it for a new 2024 GT or DH. I see that ford has discontinued the Grabber Yellow color for 2024. I'm afraid that if I go to try to trade in my car I'm going to get screwed because of the color. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

GY is the best yellow I've ever seen on any car. I'd keep it. You'll still get screwed on a trade for a car that is marginally better.

 

[RagmopInKona]

I own a 2021 PP Grabber Yellow mustang and I been thinking about trading it for a new 2024 GT or DH. I see that ford has discontinued the Grabber Yellow color for 2024. I'm afraid that if I go to try to trade in my car I'm going to get screwed because of the color. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

There is a reason ,not a lot of vehicles on the road are yellow. A majority of buyers don't care for a yellow car .
I've had 4 yellow vehicles, but was,one of the only two in the area with a canary yellow car.

 

[loucas-2021]

GY is the best yellow I've ever seen on any car. I'd keep it. You'll still get screwed on a trade for a car that is marginally better.

I agree that it's the best yellow. No comparison with any that I've seen on the street. I did see a Corvette wearing a yellow that is quite similar, but not quite the same. I like your point about the new car being marginally better.

 

[kellyreno]

I test drove a yellow M 1 before I bought the red. Loved the color in the flesh. Pictures do not do justice. Dealer wanted +$7,000 more for the yellow. Same MSRP. Could only say the red has been here longer?? The red was in the showroom floor flanked by two C-8s.

 

[loucas-2021]

I test drove a yellow M 1 before I bought the red. Loved the color in the flesh. Pictures do not do justice. Dealer wanted +$7,000 more for the yellow. Same MSRP. Could only say the red has been here longer?? The red was in the showroom floor flanked by two C-8s.

Yes, I agree. It's one of those colors that you have to see in person to fully appreciate it.

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