GM is pulling back on EVs

[Burkey]

Cool scary statement. Any proof?

Step 1. Google some topographic maps.
Step 2. Look at the ocean levels during the Jurassic.

Not that difficult really.

More importantly, what exactly would YOU expect to see if the oceans rose 100 metres or so, as they did during the Jurassic?

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[Burkey]

@K4fxd
While we’re doing this….
The area around Horsham and north of it, is well known to have been one of the last places in Australia to be covered by sea water which is one of the reasons why they struggle with soil salinity. It makes sense that it would also be one of the first to go under when/if the oceans were to rise again.

So, I’ll leave you with a topographical map, along with a chart of past sea levels. You can fill in the blanks. we might even educate you eventually.

 

[Gregs24]

@K4fxd
we might even educate you eventually.

I doubt that very much!

 

[sk47]

Cool scary statement. Any proof?

Hello; My guess is he is referring to maps generated from detective work by geologists. Over the very long history of Earth it seems the major continents have been floating around and bumping into each other. Some of the continental plates bump into each other with one plate being forced down and the edge of the other being forced up. (subduction) The plate going down can generate volcanoes.
Other plates slide past each other. This happens along the west coast along the San Andraes fault. I think the edge of the pacific plate is sliding north rubbing against the North American plate.
Over time the plates have grouped together sometimes and sometimes have moved apart. A main theory is the Atlantic Ocean was formed by two plates moving apart. (The east coast of South America appears to fit nicely into the west coast of Africa)

Anyway over hundreds of millions of years these plate movements have changed the layout of land surfaces of the earth. Today in Africa a split appears to be happening with plate boundaries moving apart. Possible a new sea will form over time.

The area where i live is believed to have been a shallow sea at some point long ago. The karst formation limestone beds I live on being a remnant of that sea. I also have sinkholes within a mile of my place. I could have a giant cavern directly under my home.

Back to your point which i figure he missed. You contend we humans could have adapted to a climate similar to the climate during the dinosaur eras. You did not imply we humans were around in the past with the dinosaurs. At least that is how I read it. What i think you tried to imply is that if we do wind up with a Cretaceous or Jurassic climate we humans can adapt.
Read and posted an interesting article about bird adaption recently I will find and post it here.

 

[sk47]

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For the first time, climate change adaptation is discovered at the genetic level (msn.com)
“The findings of this study validate predictions about how some species will adapt to climate change. As Turbek warned, "Human-induced climate change is really having a drastic effect on the reproductive activities of many species, and it is going to drive a lot of organisms to the brink of extinction."”

“However, this research offers a glimmer of hope. "The fact that we can document this amount of adaptation over a century-long time scale is somewhat encouraging in that these birds seem to be responding to the amount of climate change that has already occurred."”



Hello; To me this is fascinating

 

[K4fxd]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gas-guzzler-government-might-try-090125382.html

Step 1 toward banning gas cars.

 

[sk47]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gas-guzzler-government-might-try-090125382.html

Step 1 toward banning gas cars.

Hello; A start with the conclusion wanted then spin the story to match sort of article. But to your point, outright banning is likely the only way to actually get most to have an EV. The BEV is still too inferior to a typical ICE so many will not have one unless forced.

 

[sk47]

Time to slam the brakes on the electric vehicle calamity (msn.com)

 

[K4fxd]

News that EVs damage roads twice as much as their petrol equivalents as the pothole crisis grows on Britain’s roads brings together two great failings of the British state.


So I wonder if this means they will double the taxes on BEV's.

 

[sk47]

News that EVs damage roads twice as much as their petrol equivalents as the pothole crisis grows on Britain’s roads brings together two great failings of the British state.


So I wonder if this means they will double the taxes on BEV's.

Hello; The story mentions that the BEV do not currently pay fuel tax (road tax) and that a fee will be levied on them by 2025. I do not know what they will actually do in terms of the amount.
To help the agenda the advocates will be reluctant to punish the BEV drivers with big fees. On the other hand, the extra weight of the BEV's will cost more to keep up the road repairs.

Considering the unrealistic zeal the BEV champions have shown so far, I can see them trying to punish ICE drivers in Britian similar to the way such has been done here. That is a lose -lose plan since soon enough the mandates will have more BEV on the roads than there will be ICE. At some point the BEV drivers will have to foot the bills.

I have formed an idea. I figure at some level the BEV advocates understand their BEV's are inferior to the ICE. That on their own merits the BEV will never push out ICE. In the early 2000's crude was expected to peak and drastically decline in production. Such did not happen and to their dismay enough crude can be had for a good number of years to come.
They actually have a workable plan as long if they continue to have the juice to force things.

This business of road damage is only one of the hurdles the inferior BEV's will have to clear. Many of the issues already well written about in this thread. The climate bit is perhaps the better of the parts of the plan because the dire outcomes are decades away. No more inconvenient deadlines coming past due as has happened with doom sayers. Most recently for Gretta.

If they can get us far enough into the demise of ICE manufacture, into the switch over from coal. oil and natural gas power production, then it will be too late to practically switch back. We will be sailing the new sea without any lifeboats.
A hopeful note is as with many of the radical new notions they are not content to stick with the basics. They are showing their hand when going after domestic cattle, natural gas stoves and trying to force heat pumps into 300-year-old homes ill-suited for that use. We will be pushed into a do-without future.

 

[tripleyellowmustang]

Time to slam the brakes on the electric vehicle calamity (msn.com)

Queue the environmental study denying the additional CO2 released to fill BEV potholes. There always has to be a study to give some form of scientific validity.

 

[K4fxd]

https://www.westernstandard.news/bu...cle_c74a30be-11fd-11ee-a507-4b098c97c6f5.html

Sweden abandons 100% renewable energy goal as EU reconsiders climate policies



“We need more electricity production, we need clean electricity and we need a stable energy system,” Finance Minister Elisabeth Svantesson said in parliament.
Observers said the decision implicitly acknowledges the low quality of unstable wind and solar, and is part of a general collapse of confidence in the renewable energy agenda pioneered in the Nordic countries and in Germany.

Starting to implode. Hopefully it implodes before the infrastructure is destroyed.

 

[K4fxd]

https://www.mynbc5.com/article/carbon-emissions-pizza-ovens-new-york-city/44360770

The New York City Department of Environmental Protection wants to crack down on carbon emissions from coal and wood-fired pizza ovens. Pizzerias with ovens installed before 2016 would be required to buy so-called "emission-control devices" to reduce total emissions by 75 percent, according to officials.

I think I saw where one private plane crossing the country emits more Co2 than one of these ovens does in 80 years.

But hey, save the Planet..........

 

[K4fxd]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/7f4...d7dd0a18abd7/ford-has-bad-news-about-the.html

More jobs lost due to BEV's

 

[K4fxd]

Ford to cut jobs amid EV push, Volkswagen reduces EV production on weak sales

Ford plans to cut hundreds of jobs amid its $50 billion EV push, while Volkswagen is set to cut back on production of its EV sedan as demand falters.

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