GM is pulling back on EVs

[tripleyellowmustang]

No, my little puppet, I have it right. I I even meant singular (because some puppets are so simple). Let me see your simple sentences and meme now.

Must be hard going through life thinking you are smarter than everyone else.




Trying to clean it up?

Maybe you should be more clear on your intentions. Given your prior post history it is not a far reach to assume you were injecting politics into the discussion again.

Not sure what is so hard to understand. Stop doing that and everyone is cool.

Don’t act like you knew the difference. We all know you’re too simple minded. I’m glad I can use this thread to educate you Earnest. T. Bass. Now go throw a rock.

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[K4fxd]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-strongly-oppose-bidens-ev-164037695.html

According to the survey, 59% of Americans oppose phasing out gas cars and trucks by 2035, and just 21% would feel excited if the U.S. were to move forward with such a policy.

 

[K4fxd]

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/yet-another-ev-charging-network-173400314.html

At least it looks like a standard charging scheme is being implemented.

 

[Burkey]

The irony is the solar panels would most likely kill more lizards than the oil wells.

Well of course YOU think that because you don’t accept that CO2 causes global warming, which has the potential to eventually kill magnitudes more animals than any number of solar panels could ever achieve….

The game isn’t one of trying to cause zero harm. The game is harm minimisation. The catch is, that if you don’t accept that one of the potential harms is even real, you’re unable to adequately assess the numbers.

And no, it’s not like “green” companies are constantly being given a hall pass.

“In April, a Florida-based power company pleaded guilty in federal court in Wyoming to criminal violations of wildlife protection laws after its wind turbines killed more than 100 golden eagles in eight states. It was the third conviction of a major wind company for killing eagles in a decade.”

Could they be doing more to protect the birds? Probably. Maybe if the government installed better mandates, the situation might improve faster?

I’m quite surprised that you haven’t mentioned how many animals are killed by powerlines each year. Or do they fit into a different category because we’ve normalised them?

 

[sk47]

Well of course YOU think that because you don’t accept that CO2 causes global warming, which has the potential to eventually kill magnitudes more animals than any number of solar panels could ever achieve….

The game isn’t one of trying to cause zero harm. The game is harm minimisation. The catch is, that if you don’t accept that one of the potential harms is even real, you’re unable to adequately assess the numbers.

And no, it’s not like “green” companies are constantly being given a hall pass.

“In April, a Florida-based power company pleaded guilty in federal court in Wyoming to criminal violations of wildlife protection laws after its wind turbines killed more than 100 golden eagles in eight states. It was the third conviction of a major wind company for killing eagles in a decade.”

Could they be doing more to protect the birds? Probably. Maybe if the government installed better mandates, the situation might improve faster?

I’m quite surprised that you haven’t mentioned how many animals are killed by powerlines each year. Or do they fit into a different category because we’ve normalised them?

Hello; I wrote of this some pages ago. It is not that the "green energy" & BEV agendas are to be clean. One sort of environmental issue will be exchanged for another. The true believers have to think their favored version is somehow more acceptable. We have already seen the beginnings of the list of things they are willing to sacrifice in the name of the causes.
Magnificent Golden Eagles have to be on the list because the green energy agenda must have the wind turbines. They will cry some crocodile tears from time to time. I doubt any serious action to shut down the turbines will be considered. However, the presence of some obscure lizard will be fodder for the move to close down oil recovery.

I started watching the Tour de France today and will for the next three weeks. Saw an article about how some are calling for the grand tours to reduce their carbon footprint by half by 2025 I think. Bicycled emit carbon??? No but the team cars, helicopters, motorcycles and such do.
The list will ever increase and nothing will be safe because, after all, they are saving the planet.

 

[Vlad Soare]

I started watching the Tour de France today and will for the next three weeks. Saw an article about how some are calling for the grand tours to reduce their carbon footprint by half by 2025 I think. Bicycled emit carbon???

Maybe they mean banning cyclists from eating beans before the race...

 

[Gregs24]

Mercedes EQXX; the family sized EV with a 1200km range on a single charge. How is this possible? - YouTube

Fascinating watch on how fast things are moving forward

 

[sk47]

Mercedes EQXX; the family sized EV with a 1200km range on a single charge. How is this possible? - YouTube

Fascinating watch on how fast things are moving forward

Hello; The car is a special one -of sort it seems. Special tires likely pumped up with high pressure to have less rolling resistance and skinny. From the conversation during the ride it is very light weight with bamboo carpet and cactus leather. I stopped watching about half way so may have missed some other important details. Looked to be very low drag. One I picked up on is the car cost millions (euros?).
A test mule perhaps designed to go for a single charge mileage record perhaps?

Many years ago a man was able to ride a bicycle something around 60 miles per hour on a flat surface. Not downhill. Likely in a record book somewhere. The man and bicycle were a little bit special but the feat was made possible by the surface he rode on.
It was a rail road track with the cross ties paved over to make a smooth surface. He rode behind a train car with special fairings made to enclose the bike rider and keep wind resistance to a minimum.

Before my comments are skewered let me say the feat is both interesting and of value. That the feat can be done is a sort of proof of concept. Not likely all the features will make their way into a production car. The welded shut back doors making the rear seats useless being one feature not useful on a passenger car. I may have missed if it has an AC or heater since i stopped watching. I also wonder if some of the heavy safety are missing such as crash bars in the doors.

But the champions get to have a legit looky looky moment to be proud of. Yeah.

 

[sk47]

bicycle speed record behind train mph - Search (bing.com)
Hello; Gee, am i behind the times about bicycle speed records. The one behind a train has been surpassed by a woman on the salt flats behind a dragster with a special fairing. 184 MPH. hard to believe.

 

[K4fxd]

The 2023 Mercedes-EQ EQS Sedan starts at $104,400

Can't find any pricing on the EQXX because it is still experimental.

 

[sk47]

The 2023 Mercedes-EQ EQS Sedan starts at $104,400

Can't find any pricing on the EQXX because it is still experimental.

Hello; during the video one of the men said the EQXX cost millions. Millions is plural so at least two million, maybe more. It is not as tho lots of average Joes will be able to buy either one. But it is an EV car streamlined and otherwise built to achieve a specific goal.

Back during periods of high gas prices I recall some ICE being built that get very high MPG's. Not practical nor fun to drive but achieved a goal.

 

[GT 550]

'Perhaps' it'd have been better to target the worst emitters in a prioritised way instead of making infrastructure and vehicle futures a hostage to fortune so that car companies can profiteer from investment that will be funded by tax revenue. That would take strategic leadership, public education, and a desire to lean on multinationals...all of which is sadly lacking. Coal Mine Methane for example:

Australia’s CMM causes more global heating than all of Australia’s cars

https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/tackling-australias-coal-mine-methane-problem/

 

[Gregs24]

'Perhaps' it'd have been better to target the worst emitters in a prioritised way instead of making infrastructure and vehicle futures a hostage to fortune so that car companies can profiteer from investment that will be funded by tax revenue. That would take strategic leadership, public education, and a desire to lean on multinationals...all of which is sadly lacking. Coal Mine Methane for example:

Australia’s CMM causes more global heating than all of Australia’s cars

https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/tackling-australias-coal-mine-methane-problem/

Whilst the worse contributors obviously give the potential best rate of return, you can't just target one sector and ignore the 'less' contributing sectors, you need a strategy for every sector. Road transport is huge when it comes to CO2 globally. Australia has it's own issues with coal production but obviously doesn't apply to all countries.

I'm not sure car companies are 'profiteering from investment funded by tax revenue', most car companies are finding things pretty tough at the moment with huge demands on long term R&D. Subsidies vary by country, but many have no subsidies for EV's at all now.

 

[sk47]

Whilst the worse contributors obviously give the potential best rate of return, you can't just target one sector and ignore the 'less' contributing sectors, you need a strategy for every sector. Road transport is huge when it comes to CO2 globally. Australia has it's own issues with coal production but obviously doesn't apply to all countries.

I'm not sure car companies are 'profiteering from investment funded by tax revenue', most car companies are finding things pretty tough at the moment with huge demands on long term R&D. Subsidies vary by country, but many have no subsidies for EV's at all now.

Hello; Chart leaves out military use. Fancy that. By that not just in time of wars which is , of course, even worse that regular "peace time " energy use.
Imagine the carbon footprint of the war in Ukraine.

Road transport is right at 12% according to the chart. Huge to some i guess.

 

[RagmopInKona]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-strongly-oppose-bidens-ev-164037695.html

According to the survey, 59% of Americans oppose phasing out gas cars and trucks by 2035, and just 21% would feel excited if the U.S. were to move forward with such a policy.

If they were told now what their electric bill will look like, I doubt that 21% would stay on board.

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