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But the US is a very unusual market - trucks like the F150 just don't sell outside the US
They are simply too big
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‘Excessive’ HOA blocks homeowner from charging a car in their own garage: ‘I’m worried this might be a months-long deal’ (msn.com)
Hello; Another minor/major issue with BEV’s. I sure it will be considered minor by most of the champions but major by individuals directly affected. The following statement was of interest. Makes sense from the pro-EV agenda point of view. Not sure how landlords will look at their property rights.
As has become usual any article about BEV fires has the obligatory bit about fuel vehicles also catching fire. The story is supposed to be that gas/diesel vehicles catch fire more often complete with studies to support the claims. Is this similar to the “peer reviewed” stuff of the Covid times?
I get that gas/diesel have been around in large numbers for a long time so information is around. Not clear how the BEV trends can be compared as they have only fractional numbers and not been around very long in comparison. But for this post let me concede the point. To me it is not the numbers of fires but more the intensity. Sort of like comparing a dog bite to a shark bite maybe or a fire cracker to a stick of dynamite??
“The link in question leads to a page on the California Association of Homeowners Associations, Inc. website. The page contains only California’s civil code on EV charging stations.”
“The law cited is clear: any HOA policy that interferes with installing a charging station, makes it more expensive to install, or lowers its performance, is void. “It is the policy of the state to promote, encourage, and remove obstacles to the use of electric vehicle charging stations,” according to the state’s code.”
Hello; Another minor/major issue with BEV’s. I sure it will be considered minor by most of the champions but major by individuals directly affected. The following statement was of interest. Makes sense from the pro-EV agenda point of view. Not sure how landlords will look at their property rights.
As has become usual any article about BEV fires has the obligatory bit about fuel vehicles also catching fire. The story is supposed to be that gas/diesel vehicles catch fire more often complete with studies to support the claims. Is this similar to the “peer reviewed” stuff of the Covid times?
I get that gas/diesel have been around in large numbers for a long time so information is around. Not clear how the BEV trends can be compared as they have only fractional numbers and not been around very long in comparison. But for this post let me concede the point. To me it is not the numbers of fires but more the intensity. Sort of like comparing a dog bite to a shark bite maybe or a fire cracker to a stick of dynamite??
“The link in question leads to a page on the California Association of Homeowners Associations, Inc. website. The page contains only California’s civil code on EV charging stations.”
“The law cited is clear: any HOA policy that interferes with installing a charging station, makes it more expensive to install, or lowers its performance, is void. “It is the policy of the state to promote, encourage, and remove obstacles to the use of electric vehicle charging stations,” according to the state’s code.”
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Lightning had 15k sales last year and 3.6k in the first 2 months of 2023 apparently restricted by production. Early days obviously.
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All big three American auto makers have been having issues with the transition to building electric vehicles. I feel that they are a still a few years away from full 100% capacity production.
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Most car companies have been struggling with production of all vehicles for the last 3 years. EV's are identical to ICE vehicles in all but drivetrain. Just look at the delays to S650 production
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I really think that they are being cautious. With interest rates on the rise is making vehicle purchases tougher especially with people who have mediocre to bad credit which is a big chunk of the car sales. But I could be wrong.
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JLR have an order book of 250k cars - they would make them if they could
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No dispute that interest rates and inflation are making things tougher for buyers. The catch is that DESPITE those things, most manufacturers can’t keep up with demand at the moment. Not sure what the situation is in the US but I can promise you that it’s pretty grim here in Australia. 12-18 month wait is absolutely typical on almost any new car. Dealerships have very little stock also (why would you keep a car in stock when you could sell it immediately for above sticker?), making the idea of a test drive a bit of a joke for quite a few of us.
Makes me wonder what the backlog would be like when more people actually have surplus cash to spend.
On the plus side, the dealers are taking full advantage of the situation. Ask for a discount on a car they can’t keep up with and watch them laugh at you.
Some are going a step further. You can jump the queue, just need to pay them 10-30% above sticker price.
Not like the good old days when you could haggle for a discount and even get your car delivered within a few months. Not sure when we’ll see that again.
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Everything you said is spot on especially the last paragraph. Here there are some cars like SUV and Trucks piling up on dealer lots. But like in Europe and Australia the cars that people want are like you said back logged. And yes people paying MSRP+ just so they can get one. Mustangs Corvettes Challengers/Chargers and so on. High end cars forget about it. You can’t touch one. I have a friend looking at getting a either a GT2 or McLaren 720. He said that everyone’s back logged for new so he’s contemplating buying used. But prices are crazy high for used high end cars as well. I also don’t foresee us seeing the good ole days again.
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One of the vehicles we looked at for my wife was available immediately. Normal retail around $65k. Drive home today for only $85k….
Absolutely disgusting.
Seems our used market is a similar situation to yours. I recently saw a 10 year old car (think more “shopping trolley” than ”exotic” or “rare”) being sold for more than they paid for it new…. The car had travelled 150,000km’s (nearly 100,000 miles). We’re talking about a car that is half way through its useful life….
Saw a used Land Cruiser at a Toyota dealer….$10k more than a brand new one… which they didn't have of course.
Madness.
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The trouble is, it's the politicians who do the actions, and us who get to suffer the consequences.
By the time those consequences arise, they are long gone from the office, leading a comfortable and luxurious life and not caring two hoots about what they've done, because it won't affect them personally in the slightest.
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