GM is pulling back on EVs

[tripleyellowmustang]

Emboldened to identify what I am responding too.

An exclamation mark at the end of an exclamation is entirely appropriate

As has been explained to you, solar panels are safe, reliable and sustainable. You said they are not - I have demonstrated clearly they are from experience. If you are unwilling to accept this then the problem is yours. Many millions of people worldwide use solar panels in a safe, reliable and sustainable way.

The US grid does seem to be in a poor state, the UK is less so, but planned developments to cover local demand are planned. What more do you want?

EVs and electricity | ESO (nationalgrideso.com)

National Grid - Electric vehicles

Yep, the UK has big, big plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...jects-in-limbo-as-grid-struggles-to-keep-pace

“Windfarms, solar arrays, and battery projects are stuck in gridlock for up to 15 years as the UK’s electricity grid struggles to keep pace with the appetite for more clean energy – including a car factory being forced to wait until 2037.

The delays threaten to undermine decades of work to attract the investment needed to support the UK’s clean energy ambitions, and risks derailing Britain’s progress towards legally binding climate targets.”

“‘The grid just isn’t ready for it. You could argue that it’s negligence,” he says. “[The government has] been speaking about climate action for over a decade now, so you would have to assume that they knew what would be required.’”

”The UK has the longest queue to connect to the electricity grid of any country in Europe. There are about 200 gigawatts worth of electricity projects waiting for a grid connection, according to research by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, or enough to power 150m UK homes. Many are speculative applications from projects that are unlikely to move ahead. But the “first come first served” rules of grid connection mean many viable projects that could move ahead at speed are stuck.”

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[AZlb5.0]

Yep, the UK has big, big plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...jects-in-limbo-as-grid-struggles-to-keep-pace

“Windfarms, solar arrays, and battery projects are stuck in gridlock for up to 15 years as the UK’s electricity grid struggles to keep pace with the appetite for more clean energy – including a car factory being forced to wait until 2037.

The delays threaten to undermine decades of work to attract the investment needed to support the UK’s clean energy ambitions, and risks derailing Britain’s progress towards legally binding climate targets.”

“‘The grid just isn’t ready for it. You could argue that it’s negligence,” he says. “[The government has] been speaking about climate action for over a decade now, so you would have to assume that they knew what would be required.’”

”The UK has the longest queue to connect to the electricity grid of any country in Europe. There are about 200 gigawatts worth of electricity projects waiting for a grid connection, according to research by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, or enough to power 150m UK homes. Many are speculative applications from projects that are unlikely to move ahead. But the “first come first served” rules of grid connection mean many viable projects that could move ahead at speed are stuck.”

The UK is going to be a real world example as to what not to do in transitioning to the EV era. There are going to be people, especially the poor, who are going to suffer more then anyone else. When the electrical grid gets so taxed that you can’t provide any services to include commuting people will starve if they can’t get to work and earn a living, people will die because they can’t get to the hospital and people will suffer. There are going to be some extreme real world repercussions coming their way. But it’s all for well you know saving the earth

 

[Gregs24]

The UK is going to be a real world example as to what not to do in transitioning to the EV era. There are going to be people, especially the poor, who are going to suffer more then anyone else. When the electrical grid gets so taxed that you can’t provide any services to include commuting people will starve if they can’t get to work and earn a living, people will die because they can’t get to the hospital and people will suffer. There are going to be some extreme real world repercussions coming their way. But it’s all for well you know saving the earth

Really. If you can't come up with anything better than that, best you keep quiet and save us all some datacentre space.

Yawn ...

 

[sk47]

The UK is going to be a real world example as to what not to do in transitioning to the EV era. There are going to be people, especially the poor, who are going to suffer more then anyone else. When the electrical grid gets so taxed that you can’t provide any services to include commuting people will starve if they can’t get to work and earn a living, people will die because they can’t get to the hospital and people will suffer. There are going to be some extreme real world repercussions coming their way. But it’s all for well you know saving the earth

Hello; Don't forget the program forcing folks to install heat pumps to "save the planet". Been a few links posted about the problems with that. Houses built hundreds of years ago can not be fitted with the heat pumps easily among other problems.

Gregs ignores real issues and tries to dismiss the rest. Did that during Covid also.

 

[tripleyellowmustang]

Those pesky Chinese keep coming up again. The world played rIght into their hands. Well played China.(sarcasm)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-ceo-says-china-main-195125676.html

“‘I think we see the Chinese as the main competitor, not GM or Toyota,’ Farley said at the Morgan Stanley Sustainable Finance Summit. ‘The Chinese are going to be the powerhouse.’

China, the world's largest auto market, has some of the best battery technology and dominates EV production, Farley said. He cited BYD, Geely, Great Wall, Changan SAIC as among the "winners" among Chinese automakers.”

“General Motors CEO Mary Barra this week made her first visit to China since the start of the pandemic, as GM struggles with a sales slump there.

Ford is cutting costs in China where its sales have been sliding since 2016. It is restructuring operations there to turn one of its joint ventures into an export hub for low-cost commercial electric and combustion vehicles.”

 

[martinjlm]

Google “World’s best selling car 2023”

 

[Gregs24]

Google “World’s best selling car 2023”

Just a fad for climate huggers and they will never sell

 

[Mitch03]

Google “World’s best selling car 2023”

Google “Best Selling Vehicles in the US”. The F150 outsells it 2 to 1……..the other truck brands outsell it too!

 

[Mitch03]

Just a fad for climate huggers and they will never sell

You are so right for a change…....thats unusual.

 

[AZlb5.0]

Just a fad for climate huggers and they will never sell

How can it be the best selling car in a year that hasn’t ended yet

 

[Gregs24]

How can it be the best selling car in a year that hasn’t ended yet

YTD - is that not pretty obvious?

 

[AZlb5.0]

YTD - is that not pretty obvious?

I’d rather wait till the year is over. Through history, in the US, trucks and SUVs, have always pulled out the year as best selling and favorite by a very large margin.

 

[key01]

I’d rather wait till the year is over. Through history, in the US, trucks and SUVs, have always pulled out the year as best selling and favorite by a very large margin.

Key word is “world’s”, not US. In 2022, Tesla model Y was 4th overall, so that model appears to be on a tear. This list includes trucks as well as SUVs

 

[AZlb5.0]

Key word is “world’s”, not US. In 2022, Tesla model Y was 4th overall, so that model appears to be on a tear. This list includes trucks as well as SUVs

I missed that word my apologies. Brain didn’t capture that.

 

[key01]

^no big deal. I just wasn’t sure you read the fine print. Even world wide the F150 and Silverado are up there

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