Getting a GT350 at MSRP

[Grintch]

This is why the Tesla Sales model is the way of the future. Get rid of the Dealerships and deal direct with the Manufacturer.

That's not the real problem in this case. The problem is, Ford limiting the number of cars they build/alocate. With enough cars in the system the dealers can't really play the ADM game.

Building more cars even helps spread the development and certification costs more. They should set the price and build as many as the number of customers they can find who will pay that price.

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[mustang_lurkers]

Wow! I want to get a Focus ST or RS for my son but he has 2 more years before finishing High School. The deal is for him to keep good grades and get accepted to college and he gets the high end Focus. I will like to drive the Shelby and will make the most of it. I feel good to get it at MSRP. So many dealers are trying to get a big ADM for it.

 

[Cruzinaround]

That's not the real problem in this case. The problem is, Ford limiting the number of cars they build/alocate. With enough cars in the system the dealers can't really play the ADM game.

Building more cars even helps spread the development and certification costs more. They should set the price and build as many as the number of customers they can find who will pay that price.

Limited production numbers does not create the ADM...Dealerships do. If you compare this to a Direct buy model... then THE MSRP is what it is. ADM's regardless of how limited the production is.... does not apply.

 

[Grintch]

Basic economics. If you have 20,000 people willing to pay $60,000 for a GT350, but only 10,000 cars, the price goes up until only 10,000 are willing to pay the new price. But in this case the dealers make the profit, where as if Ford made a reasonable number of cars or charged a higher price THEY would make that extra money.

Personaly, I think that would be a better plan all around as dealer markups seem to really piss people off.

But at $60k+, I won't be a buyer. I just hope Ford racing offers some of the GT350 goodies to GT owners at attractive prices.

 

[PonyPower]

Well guys....I took the next step. I have placed my deposit down for my Shelby GT350 at MSRP! I will continue to post as the deal progresses. You can get this car at MSRP if you are patient and willing to shop around.

Not to be a debbie downer, but no one even has gotten an allotment schedule, or number yet. I am fine with you guys saying whatever you want. But piece of advice from someone selling the GT350's and ordering them for quite a few dealerships, no one can make a real deal on any of these yet. If you are shopping now anything you get won't be more than a word, nothing concrete.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Basic economics. If you have 20,000 people willing to pay $60,000 for a GT350, but only 10,000 cars, the price goes up until only 10,000 are willing to pay the new price. But in this case the dealers make the profit, where as if Ford made a reasonable number of cars or charged a higher price THEY would make that extra money.

Personaly, I think that would be a better plan all around as dealer markups seem to really piss people off.

But at $60k+, I won't be a buyer. I just hope Ford racing offers some of the GT350 goodies to GT owners at attractive prices.

You're little short sighted there. Let's say the dealerships were not a part of the equation....then it really is not a question of limited production causing a short demand and the dealerships gouging the prices. The 10,000 units produced will sell and for MSRP or less if purchased direct from the Manufacturer.

The mere fact that this is a specialty vehicle also drives up the interest for the lesser models which are certainly more attainable. In the end the effective end result sells more Mustangs across the entire line up period.

Which also means those limited edition 50th anniversary Mustangs would also not be subjected to the disgusting practice of ADMs and of course more attainable for a fellow like yourself who does not want to spend in the 60k range even at MSRP for a GT350.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Not to be a debbie downer, but no one even has gotten an allotment schedule, or number yet. I am fine with you guys saying whatever you want. But piece of advice from someone selling the GT350's and ordering them for quite a few dealerships, no one can make a real deal on any of these yet. If you are shopping now anything you get won't be more than a word, nothing concrete.

I and the salesperson are very aware of that fact. The projections can only be made on speculations, some of which have been shared here in these forums. And also using known information about previous specialty vehicles. Like the Shelby GT500 or the Boss302, Which, are still in dealerships waiting for buyers. The GT350 will only drive down the prices of these remaining vehicles.... simply because they are no longer in the spotlight.

All we can do is make projections and my deposit on that is still good.... Since allotments will happen and cars will be sold. As soon as the ability to take orders and fulfill these orders is open...then the deposit is still applicable. And the final numbers will be made available based upon the given pre-arranged agreement.

I am not announcing a dealership name or the salesperson's name...call it being selfish... but I really just don't need to flood the channels for my source with tons of inquiries.

 

[mustang_lurkers]

Impatience and speculation is what drives the ADM. There will not be a shortage of Shelby GT350s for the people who really are in the market and serious about buying one. This has been proven time and time again with hot new models coming out. People even paid ridiculous amounts over MSRP to get Mazda Miatas before. Impatient people who want to be the first kid on the block to have one will shell out extra money just to have one a few months before anyone else. It will settle and everyone else who want theirs will buy it at MSRP or less. It is true there is no allocation schedule nor a real idea about when or how many will be built but deals can be struck and contracts can be made. A dealership can agree to sell one to someone and state at MSRP or MSRP plus a set amount for a future Shelby GT350. If the dealership enrolled they are garunteed one GT350 so if you are #1 in line for it and have a deal in writing I would say you are in a good position to get one. Basically we are waiting in line for one. The longer you wait to try to work a deal the longer you will wait to get one. I am not saying a person who waits won't get one they will just be further down the list. I really want on and am on deck for one at MSRP but I don't have to be the first kid on the block to have it. If there are production delays or allocation delays I am fine with it but I just want to be the first in line at the dealership that I have cut the deal with. Regular bank accounts make so little interest so the money I put on deposit with the dealership isn't going to be missed while it holds my place for my order. I am #1 in line for a dealership that will get at least one Shelby GT350 and sell it to me at MSRP that is where I wanted to be. I am a serious buyer who loves mustangs and I will get one of these cars but will not get robbed in the process by a greedy dealer.

 

[kammrk]

Getting a GT350 at MSRP.

With due respect here to all, can ya all just listen to yourself's, your making this blown up hype and the car is months away! the dealerships are going
to do what they do with this car as they have alway's done, no difference here,
trust me this car will be ADM rite out of the gate. People here are already driving it up as others see/read this forum, word will get out how many impatient people are wanting the car, yes there maybe limited allocation's,
so many of them built bla bla bla. be patient and stop carring on already, the car will become more available in time as any other car. I looked around two days ago just for the hell of it on cars.com & auto trader at the availability of the "50 year special edition mustang" and guess what! there were so many I didnt even count and yes some where outrageausly priced @ upper 60's to reasonable mid 40's. I to hope to get one of these GT350's but I know I have to wait until atleast feb/march of next year as I retire and cash out some of my pension, but I am not going to make myself crazy over it, I work with a real rough croud of firemen and everyday they see me on the computer looking at this car and laugh at my obssession, I maybe in a small group with ya all here as to wanting this car, but I am not going to be silly about it, thats the point here, there will be plenty of these cars available in time, just my opinion, thanks.

 

[NicksM3]

With due respect here to all, can ya all just listen to yourself's, your making this blown up hype and the car is months away! the dealerships are going
to do what they do with this car as they have alway's done, no difference here,
trust me this car will be ADM rite out of the gate. People here are already driving it up as others see/read this forum, word will get out how many impatient people are wanting the car, yes there maybe limited allocation's,
so many of them built bla bla bla. be patient and stop carring on already, the car will become more available in time as any other car. I looked around two days ago just for the hell of it on cars.com & auto trader at the availability of the "50 year special edition mustang" and guess what! there were so many I didnt even count and yes some where outrageausly priced @ upper 60's to reasonable mid 40's. I to hope to get one of these GT350's but I know I have to wait until atleast feb/march of next year as I retire and cash out some of my pension, but I am not going to make myself crazy over it, I work with a real rough croud of firemen and everyday they see me on the computer looking at this car and laugh at my obssession, I maybe in a small group with ya all here as to wanting this car, but I am not going to be silly about it, thats the point here, there will be plenty of these cars available in time, just my opinion, thanks.

Well put brotha!

 

[Hack]

Impatience and speculation is what drives the ADM. There will not be a shortage of Shelby GT350s for the people who really are in the market and serious about buying one. This has been proven time and time again with hot new models coming out. People even paid ridiculous amounts over MSRP to get Mazda Miatas before. Impatient people who want to be the first kid on the block to have one will shell out extra money just to have one a few months before anyone else. It will settle and everyone else who want theirs will buy it at MSRP or less. It is true there is no allocation schedule nor a real idea about when or how many will be built but deals can be struck and contracts can be made. A dealership can agree to sell one to someone and state at MSRP or MSRP plus a set amount for a future Shelby GT350. If the dealership enrolled they are garunteed one GT350 so if you are #1 in line for it and have a deal in writing I would say you are in a good position to get one. Basically we are waiting in line for one. The longer you wait to try to work a deal the longer you will wait to get one. I am not saying a person who waits won't get one they will just be further down the list. I really want on and am on deck for one at MSRP but I don't have to be the first kid on the block to have it. If there are production delays or allocation delays I am fine with it but I just want to be the first in line at the dealership that I have cut the deal with. Regular bank accounts make so little interest so the money I put on deposit with the dealership isn't going to be missed while it holds my place for my order. I am #1 in line for a dealership that will get at least one Shelby GT350 and sell it to me at MSRP that is where I wanted to be. I am a serious buyer who loves mustangs and I will get one of these cars but will not get robbed in the process by a greedy dealer.

My GF's sister paid a huge ADM to get a PT Cruiser back in the day when they first came out. :lol:

 

[mustang_lurkers]

I think you may be a little more hungry for the car than most if you are going to cash out some of your pension to get it. Definately want to be want of the people who should avoid being gouged for the car. Ther is a difference between being excited about the car and trying to work out a deal early at MSRP and just being foolish to do anything to get one like paying a huge ADM. Remember the customer sets the market for any purchase. People lining up early for the car doesn't justify the ADM. It is the people who go to the dealer and fork over the extra money that will encourage dealers to continue ADMs. I got an MSRP deal and another posting here got a 500 dollar below invoice deal. I don't see where people on this thread are encouraging ADMs. We are discussing how to get on at MSRP or better.

 

[kammrk]

I think you may be a little more hungry for the car than most if you are going to cash out some of your pension to get it. Definately want to be want of the people who should avoid being gouged for the car. Ther is a difference between being excited about the car and trying to work out a deal early at MSRP and just being foolish to do anything to get one like paying a huge ADM. Remember the customer sets the market for any purchase. People lining up early for the car doesn't justify the ADM. It is the people who go to the dealer and fork over the extra money that will encourage dealers to continue ADMs. I got an MSRP deal and another posting here got a 500 dollar below invoice deal. I don't see where people on this thread are encouraging ADMs. We are discussing how to get on at MSRP or better.

If you are in fact purchasing for MSRP your lucky buddy, what I'm saying is that folks are getting very worked up with the car and we are no were near it hitting dealerships yet, the dealerships are going to give you halfhearted promises if they really even have the true information on the vehicle. I am not saying some dealerships are point on with the GT350 but alot out there have no real clue until it gets much closer to the actual release date. I can tell you two really big Ford dealerships well known for specialty mustangs in Tampa & other in Daytona bch. both are not talking anything other than what we all know here and somewhat to a lesser degree of knowledge as to the car. They will get them when they get them, will they sell @ MSRP initialy? I doubt it, I have purchased (2) mustangs from the dealership in Daytona I know they are not going to sell this car (or first one) at MSRP who knows maybe they will, I am not going to get on a list or call all over the state at this point when the car is still way off. And yes don't ya think a guy kinda deserve's something like a one time opportunity at getting that dream car after 29 years on the job. At least thats how my wife is agreeing to it.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

I think you may be a little more hungry for the car than most if you are going to cash out some of your pension to get it. Definately want to be want of the people who should avoid being gouged for the car. Ther is a difference between being excited about the car and trying to work out a deal early at MSRP and just being foolish to do anything to get one like paying a huge ADM. Remember the customer sets the market for any purchase. People lining up early for the car doesn't justify the ADM. It is the people who go to the dealer and fork over the extra money that will encourage dealers to continue ADMs. I got an MSRP deal and another posting here got a 500 dollar below invoice deal. I don't see where people on this thread are encouraging ADMs. We are discussing how to get on at MSRP or better.

I agree, in fact I posted the same thing...most people are asking for MSRP, and if some dealer is saying they are charging an ADM then give him "an ear full" and the call is over...How does this encourage ADM's? it does not.

 

[Cruzinaround]

The dealers I've spoken to will only sell these at MSRP. Period. I'm guessing there are a lot more out there that will honor MSRP than those who will look for ADM's. My dealer was allowed one and will be paying for a second guaranteed allotment. so initially they will have two. I will be sitting down to discus my desired options prior to the ordering window opening up on the car. My deal also comes with some perks I throw back to the dealer to provide a window draw for customers to drool over. In the area I live the towns are more like hamlets, so these types of cars really make an impression. My dealer still has a 2014 Shelby GT500 convertible in the showroom....and it is basically an iconic draw for visitors to oooh and ahhh over.

The point here is... dealers will make a lot of profit at MSRP. Salespeople will make an awesome margin at MSRP and the Customer will be happy.

ADM's need to be justified with something TANGIBLE in return if the dealer orders a car on their own dime and time. Meaning if they simply fulfill having their allotment without ordering for a client. At which point they might tack on a whole list of crap nobody really wants added to the car.

If its something of a tangible value then an ADM can be a value added premium....like oil changes for the life of ownership or regular scheduled maintenance tune ups.

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