Getting a GT350 at MSRP

[FATTBoss]

When I bought my Boss I found a dealer selling at under MSRP. When I asked why, after signing the papers, they told me they would rather build a good customer relationship than make a few extra buds on just one sale. Their policy was to never charge ADM on a vehicle. This dealer is DARCARS in Lanham MD. I will be calling them if I decide to buy a GT350.

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[PonyPower]

I'm guessing the profile of a person who does buy a specialty vehicle is someone you want repeat business from. They know what they want. Can afford it and simply ask not to be screwed in the long term..or they definitely won't come back.

Then again if you look at what the GT 350 offers.... as far as vehicles go..aside from the FPC...its not so special. Its in the same performance and amenities range as cars offered from BMW and Mercedes now... maybe not so much with the interior trim level...but certainly everywhere else. It would not be unheard of for this format to eventually just become in the near future the base for what is just a Mustang GT.

I agree one day that you will likely see that has more of a standard feature, if the keep with the N/A V8 for the GT. Also the performance of the GT350 relates to much more expensive BMW and Mercedes models.

Your 100% right, but truthfully I look for repeat business from all of my customers. I am big on building relationships. I believe some times you need ADM's but if you look my ADM sometimes will only be 1k to maybe 3k, nothing crazy and normally I will make a deal. I believe if you treat a customer right it means more than just the price on the bottom line.

 

[Cruzinaround]

I agree one day that you will likely see that has more of a standard feature, if the keep with the N/A V8 for the GT. Also the performance of the GT350 relates to much more expensive BMW and Mercedes models.

Your 100% right, but truthfully I look for repeat business from all of my customers. I am big on building relationships. I believe some times you need ADM's but if you look my ADM sometimes will only be 1k to maybe 3k, nothing crazy and normally I will make a deal. I believe if you treat a customer right it means more than just the price on the bottom line.

Well if you were willing to eat the ADM to make the sale then you're at least reasonable. Maybe even packaging in something that adds enough tangible value to the sale to justify the ADM.... I would accept routine oil changes and several tune ups. Along with maybe a second set of wheels and tires. Even a car cover, maybe some free simonizing for the first couple of years.

I would even agree to keep the silly stickers the dealership puts on the cars to advertise where I bought it from. But, only if the ADM was tossed aside in exchange for me allowing the dealer to advertise on my car.

So long as there is a Value added to that ADM there can be a feeling of not walking away and being cheated even in the slightest. Knowing what margins are..the buyer isn't interested in the history of other cars the dealership sells below MSRP or want to be the person paying more to close the spread and raise the overall selling margin of the entire dealership. They want the best price on the car in front of them.

And that deal sets the tone for any future business.

 

[mustang_lurkers]

I have contacted about 10 different Ford dealers about getting on a list to order a GT350 at MSRP. Most are not willing to even discuss the car saying that they don't know anything yet. None have been willing to do a contract or discuss the idea of placing a deposit to get on a waiting list. The one dealer who was willing to discuss the matter further stated they wanted a 10K ADM so I ended that discussion immeadiately. I really want the Shelby GT350 but not bad enough to fork over 10K extra. It would be like buying the car and then just throwing 10K out the window as I drive down the road. That would not make me happy.

 

[mustang_lurkers]

I believe that a majority of those who are interested in and planning to buy one of the new Shelby GT350's visit this website and read the postings on this forum. Someone should start a thread where we can all come together to discuss and support each other to refuse to pay any ADM for the GT350. Sort of a gentleman's agreement between each other. If enough of us come together and turn our nose up at ADM's the ADM madness will end quicker. When people pay the ADM other dealers will be encouraged to do the same. I think the high end collectors will go after the GT350R so that will help us since the rich guys who will pay anything to put it in their museum garage will go after the R's. So who is with me in starting a "NO ADM" brotherhood?????

 

[Hack]

"NO ADM" brotherhood?????

Absolutely not.

 

[Cruzinaround]

Why is that Hack? Wouldn't helping others and yourself to not have to throw away hard earned money make sense?

New dude with only 2 posts and he already gets it.

Even if he does come from Tokyo??? Hmmm.

 

[We_R1]

So who is with me in starting a "NO ADM" brotherhood?????

Even if all the future buyers reading this forum would agree to refuse to buy with ADM....there will still be a lot more buyers around who are willing to or just don't care to pay it to be exclusive, or never heard about the forum :-)

The forum guys will end up to buy during the following years, or, most likely will just select a different car, more aligned with the budget they're ready to pay and the value they get from it.

In the end the real loser here will be Ford....never be able to sell as many of these cars as if the system would avoid ADM practice from the dealers.

Personally I don't see any advantage in the open/free system as it is, and I'm missing the value-added from any dealer I met in the past...other than wasting my time and taking a slice of my money for this time-wasted.

 

[mustang_lurkers]

I think that that anyone who wants one of the first batch of GT350 has been sniffing all over the place to absorb any and all info about the car. Believe me when I say they are reading this forum or the Brad Barnett or SVTP forums. I don't think a lack luster fan of the car will bee bop into a dealership and pay 10k or 15k over sticker for the car. It will be people like us some sell out Benedict Arnold who will buy it for the ADM and then lie and say they got it for less. We set the market value on the car. It is basic economics. The more that refuse to pay the ADM the sooner it will cease and prices will fall. Other American Limited edition cars are going for MSRP or less. There are even 50 year limited edition 2015 stands available at MSRP now and they only built 1964 of them and it was a one year run. Remember when they were asking 80,000 for them???? Let's make a fellowship against ADMs! I am only in Tokyo for work and will return for my GT350.

 

[Cruzinaround]

In Tokyo do they use a direct buy model where you can buy direct from the Manufacturer?

 

[Cruzinaround]

A excerpt from a CNN Money article about the value retention of the only Investment grade American Car. The Ford GT That had an MSRP of 150k.

"When typically equipped, many of the earliest Ford GT's were sold for as much $250,000 as Ford dealers reaped huge profits on them. By 2006, the second and last year of its production, the cars were selling for roughly sticker price.
"It just goes to show you, the guys who have to be first on the block with the hot new car really lose out," said Jeannine Fallon, a spokeswoman for the auto pricing Web site Edmunds.com. "In this case, the people who waited and bought later got an amazing deal." NOTE:(technically this was MSRP so it was just a fair deal:(
Ford (F, Fortune 500) GT auction values reached their peak shortly after the car went out of production, reaching about $175,000, according to Hagerty. Things have settled down since, but the cars are still going for, on average, about $165,000."

Keeping this in mind its clearly not a good decision to purchase this GT350 with ADM's Since its nowhere near the Investment grade league of a Ford GT. For that matter....Neither is the LE Mustang or the Boss 302 or the Shelby Gt500. Paying ADM's on any of those is simply...stupid.

 

[mustang_lurkers]

I don't know if or how people would buy the car in Tokyo. I am American and only working in Tokyo for a year. I will return to the U.S. for a Shelby GT350. I really want one but I am willing to wait to buy one at MSRP even if I need to wait for next years model. They're some who will buy one then trade it in with less than a 1000 miles on it. I will buy one like that if necessary. I don't mind to spend money but I will not waste it either. I don't think the GT35O will be that limited. I wonder if Ford will build as many as they did to match years when there were Shelbys and Boss 302s since this car is meant to feed the need for both of those cars.

 

[Cruzinaround]

You know...waiting for the following year sometimes isn't a bad idea, since the early adopter syndrome always applies. All the problems and idiosyncrasies about the newly released vehicle usually get revealed during the first release. Then the following release typically has the bugs sorted out and perhaps an HP and torque bump as well.

 

[We_R1]

ADM... speaking of which...
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/02/11/dealers-price-gouging-ford-mustang-50th-anniversary-edition/

I would love to see if Ford reply to Autoblog inquiry

 

[Hack]

Why is that Hack? Wouldn't helping others and yourself to not have to throw away hard earned money make sense?

I've already given you lots of reasons but you just ignore what I've said.

I'm going to do whatever I want to do for my reasons and I think it is beautiful that everyone else has that right too.

I don't want to join your commune and I don't agree with your philosophy.

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