Gaskets, Do I need them

[Gibbo205]

[MENTION=20062]Pumabuild[/MENTION] if you wanna throw it on for me :love:

Id give him a call or pop to his place buddy or like his FB page, am sure he can help you out either way.

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[Manders Mustang]

Id give him a call or pop to his place buddy or like his FB page, am sure he can help you out either way.

Yeah i've got a PM off him that I responded to after seeing this, I've been past his place a few times, as it's next to the perry bar greyhound tracks, and my grandparents love it there.

Will see what Alan can do, as obviously me and my mate who's a mechanic, are debating about whether to put the car up on blocks/axle-stands etc, and if the axle-stands i've got (which i bought for my corsa) would hold the Mustangs weight as they were dirt cheapo ones from Ebay :lol:!

 

[Gibbo205]

Yeah i've got a PM off him that I responded to after seeing this, I've been past his place a few times, as it's next to the perry bar greyhound tracks, and my grandparents love it there.

Will see what Alan can do, as obviously me and my mate who's a mechanic, are debating about whether to put the car up on blocks/axle-stands etc, and if the axle-stands i've got (which i bought for my corsa) would hold the Mustangs weight as they were dirt cheapo ones from Ebay :lol:!

Never go under a car unless you have right equipment!

I a working on headers with Alan for the V8, told him I was fedup of waiting for Milltek and was close to ordering from Australia, but he has agreed to get some made up for his Mustang as he also wants them, if all goes well he will also get me a set made as well.

He is a good guy, knows his stuff and has a lot of contacts in motorsport.

Plus he is a genius at mapping, the results he has already got on the new Focus RS is staggering, which is same engine as Mustang. ;)

 

[Big_G]

Yeah i've got a PM off him that I responded to after seeing this, I've been past his place a few times, as it's next to the perry bar greyhound tracks, and my grandparents love it there.

Will see what Alan can do, as obviously me and my mate who's a mechanic, are debating about whether to put the car up on blocks/axle-stands etc, and if the axle-stands i've got (which i bought for my corsa) would hold the Mustangs weight as they were dirt cheapo ones from Ebay :lol:!

Mine went on 2 ton axle stands, piece of cake to fit. You'll be done in 45 mins

 

[Manders Mustang]

Never go under a car unless you have right equipment!

I a working on headers with Alan for the V8, told him I was fedup of waiting for Milltek and was close to ordering from Australia, but he has agreed to get some made up for his Mustang as he also wants them, if all goes well he will also get me a set made as well.

He is a good guy, knows his stuff and has a lot of contacts in motorsport.

Plus he is a genius at mapping, the results he has already got on the new Focus RS is staggering, which is same engine as Mustang. ;)

Indeed, I'll buy the right equipment, but have a bit of head time before the exhaust comes as it's on back order for Nemesis' next delivery. Otherwise the hunt for someone with a ramp begins :lol:!

Yeah the Mapping is something i'm interested in, however being new to driving the car (as i'm sure you saw when driving yours - will only boot on a straight line lmao), I don't want to go outside of my comfort zone just yet, but will slowly begin to ramp it up as I get more comfortable, and then look into tuning to get the maximum power, performance and MPG (as it's my daily) out of my car. But to my knowledge, tuning will also require me to drop in a new intercooler and all that good stuff. (And yes, that damn RS has the same Engine as me... :frusty

[MENTION=8914]Big_G[/MENTION] not sure what Axle-stand weight mine takes, literally, no clue, I just bought them off ebay about 3 years ago when I needed to change the pads on my Corsa and it seemed to say it'd work for them, wouldn't have a donkeys how to check as they're just red metal axle stands :lol:

 

[Big_G]

Plus he is a genius at mapping, the results he has already got on the new Focus RS is staggering, which is same engine as Mustang. ;)

I wouldn't trust anyone other than Adam Brunson when it comes to tuning the ecoboost.

 

[Gibbo205]

I wouldn't trust anyone other than Adam Brunson when it comes to tuning the ecoboost.

To be honest I'd not even tune an ecoboost full stop.

 

[Manders Mustang]

To be honest I'd not even tune an ecoboost full stop.

The gains both MPG, Torque and BHP on the Ecoboost engine, from what I'm hearing (With different spark plugs, intercooler) are something else... So not sure why you wouldn't tune one? Interested to hear ;D

My axlestands are 3 tonne each by the way, they'll hold the stang

 

[Gibbo205]

The gains both MPG, Torque and BHP on the Ecoboost engine, from what I'm hearing (With different spark plugs, intercooler) are something else... So not sure why you wouldn't tune one? Interested to hear ;D

My axlestands are 3 tonne each by the way, they'll hold the stang

If I owned an Eco boost I'd either make sure I had money set aside for a new engine or repair or I would wait until the engine had plenty of miles on it.

Reason is quite a few have let go in the US, both tuned and stock, so it has had some issues and is not as proven as the V8.

So either be prepared to pay to play should it break, or leave it stock for a year or 10,000 miles.

Ford may have made changes to the UK version, but check the US section, quite a few guys have had issues, always mod knowing all the facts do your research and then make the decision.


But with a full exhaust, CAI you would be good for 370-390BHP and 400-450lb/ft so nice improvements for sure.

 

[SteveS]

The gains both MPG, Torque and BHP on the Ecoboost engine, from what I'm hearing (With different spark plugs, intercooler) are something else... So not sure why you wouldn't tune one? Interested to hear ;D

My axlestands are 3 tonne each by the way, they'll hold the stang

As regards tuning, people will tune the FRS as the 2.3 is what it comes with. For the Mustang if you want 400BHP there's an engine readily available. I appreciate that running costs make it prohibitive for some with daily requirements. One reason not to tune it would be the reports of exploding engines from the US; granted few and far between but you wouldn't want to be that guy...

I've always had a distrust of axle-stands. It's not really the stands themselves but more my ability in placing them correctly. Just found out we have a place in my town that will rent ramp-space and tools for £17 an hour though.

 

[Gibbo205]

As regards tuning, people will tune the FRS as the 2.3 is what it comes with. For the Mustang if you want 400BHP there's an engine readily available. I appreciate that running costs make it prohibitive for some with daily requirements. One reason not to tune it would be the reports of exploding engines from the US; granted few and far between but you wouldn't want to be that guy...

I've always had a distrust of axle-stands. It's not really the stands themselves but more my ability in placing them correctly. Just found out we have a place in my town that will rent ramp-space and tools for £17 an hour though.

When I fitted my Corsa the car was on six axle stands and two jacks, because yes like you I have a dis-trust for the things.

 

[Cati]

been following the eco boom threads quite a lot out of interest .. seems most have not followed the direction of the tuners.. in terms of octane, intercooler or intakes. is that a fair summary?

 

[Gibbo205]

been following the eco boom threads quite a lot out of interest .. seems most have not followed the direction of the tuners.. in terms of octane, intercooler or intakes. is that a fair summary?

Stock engines are letting go also, not just tuned.

But of course if your tune a car for Octane 93, that means put Octane 93 or better in it.

Makes me laugh when I read threads I put 91 in my 93 tuned car, IDIOTS!

Anyone tuning, use the right fuel and datalog your car from the start, check the fuel trims, AFR, knock sensors etc.

 

[Manders Mustang]

Stock engines are letting go also, not just tuned.

But of course if your tune a car for Octane 93, that means put Octane 93 or better in it.

Makes me laugh when I read threads I put 91 in my 93 tuned car, IDIOTS!

Anyone tuning, use the right fuel and datalog your car from the start, check the fuel trims, AFR, knock sensors etc.

Octane wise, I run whatever octane Momentum and Vpower are (I think 99 to us????), aint getting into the octane debate.

Tune wise, wasn't going to be taking the car 'to the edge' like a lot of the tunes in the states seem to do, I feel, tuning, is much like overclocking on computers (Something I think with your background you can relate to Gibbo), there's certain gains you can get, however minimal, by small tweaks, however to get the maximum out of it you're pushing your engine to the max.

I wouldn't ever be tuning my car and pushing it to the absolute limits, if I ever was to tune, it would only ever be purely for ease of daily driving increase in mpg and some subtle BHP benefits - rather than to get the absolute maximum out, a loss of engine isn't worth the risk.

*I have overclocked GPU's before and had them on their limits, causing a blowout, so risk factor would be to tune them below that (Same principle goes for my engine)

And as Graham said, I'd be tuning with Adamtune, rather than any random bob,d1ck or harry who seem to be popping up being able to tune. Because lets face it, even I could go into the ECU and dial the Pressure in the turbo up and be like 'Look 4024010 psi' 'Look my engine blew up' It's tuning economically, effectively and within the engines limits more than anything, with someone who is either incredibly well regarded (Adam) or protects warranty (Mountune)
*Also waiting on Mountune for their 'Warranty protected' tune.

Engines will blow up if you tune them too hard regardless of it being a V8 or I4. Doesn't matter, I've not trawled or looked into tuning that deeply just yet, because personally, it's not come to a time where I'm opting to invest money into the car, rather than other ventures, at that point i'll assess whether it's worth while doing or not. Still yet to see an ecoboost burst into flames, wiring loom or not ;)! Or the ecoboosts have a recall..... (Slowly whistles, twiddles keys, walks, then sprints off after the small victory :lol





Now, lets go back on topic away from the tuning topic, because, I'll cross that bridge, whenever I decide, if I decide I want to tune it. At the moment, I see no reason to, but in the future, I may.


I have two axle stands that hold 3 tonne each, and my friend has two that hold 1.5 tonne each, now, the plan is to jack up the right side of the car to do the exhaust rather than jack both sides up. We're having a look under the car sunday, or failing that, sometime next week, to plan how we're going to tackle the axle stands etc. Otherwise it's going to be a brick and planks of wood to make a make-shift ramp (Unless some garage wants to lend me their ramps for 30-40minutes), because, Watching the videos of the exhaust, as long as You can get under it, it looks like a piece of p1ss to do and looks very, dare I say it, modular (Mind you, I said that about DRLs and Sidelights lmfao)

 

[Cati]

changing and exhaust is easy.. getting it lined up is the hard bit.. but then not much

just take it steady on the stands, they need to be secure on a flat surface.... i know you all this but most accidents with jacking up come from these damned things and personally for me it's ramp or nothing. But then I have a ramp so I am lucky in that respect.

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