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Maybe a calendar "meeting" to open your procal software every 6 to 12 months... once you do that, it will let you know if there is an update.

I do that with some off the wall software I own... not perfect, but it works fine.
Well there's 2 things, there's the ProCal software and the tune. While the software will tell you if there's an update to the ProCal software, I think the only way to tell if there's an update to the tune is to download it and compare or call and ask Ford Performance. Unless someone knows another way?
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Well there's 2 things, there's the ProCal software and the tune. While the software will tell you if there's an update to the ProCal software, I think the only way to tell if there's an update to the tune is to download it and compare or call and ask Ford Performance. Unless someone knows another way?
Well, when was the last time they updated the software and not the tune or the tune and not the software?
 

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They've updated both, not sure if they were tied together or not. When I talked to the Ford Performance rep, he made it sound like just update the software. Then he asked when did I install the tune. When I told him December, he said oh, download the tune and update that as well. So it didn't sounds like they were related.
 

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I'll just keep checking Mustang6g! Somebody will know when it gets updated
 

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I would like to ask them if they plan a more aggressive tune in the future. I am guessing this is within the safe limitations without needing more bolt-ons.
 

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I doubt they will change it much. It took a couple years to get it and with the CARB certification i doubt they will change it much. I'm not sure what it takes for the re-cert but they wouldn't want to give that up.

If anything, it would be a stage 2 kit that maybe included a DP and FMIC. That would be nice.
 

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I really wanna get the fp tune, but yeah I'm hoping there will be one or 2 more revisions. from what I can tell the tune has been out about 6 months or so? hoping for a stage 2 as well, I don't know how much longer I can wait though, haha!
 

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getting my intake and tune installed thursday wish me luck
 

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getting my intake and tune installed thursday wish me luck
You getting it done at a shop? They shouldnt be charging any more than an hour and a half labor. Luckily I work at a shop full of ase certified techs. So hopefully it will only cost me a few beers! Good luck and let me know how the car feels after! Enjoy!
 

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Been reading through a large chunk of this thread for info. Stoked for a tune that wont void my warranty. Tried to get as much info as I could from reading but some of the dtuff you guys are saying is over my head, and I still have some questions. I'm ready to order the kit and get this installed as quickly as possible. I'm still a newb to the mod world, and this is my first sports car coming from being a truck guy since I could drive. Still learning about everything. I'm not a drag or street racer. This is my daily driver, and I just like to have fun when I drive it. I'm competely stock.

So my main question would be did most of you guys with the tune already have an aftermarket IC on it? Or are you running it with the stock IC? Does performance suffer running the tune and CAI with the stock IC? Should I upgrade? I live in Texas and summers are brutal. Will I even notice enough to matter being that I'm just someone looking for some extra oomph and fun while driving? I couldn't really find an answer reading back through the thread.

Same questions regarding a CAT back exhaust too.

So I callled the delaership I got my car from and asked ther service dept about installing. They said they could do it, but when I asked about honoring my original warranty they said they couldn't guarantee anything cause I'm modifying the car, I tried to explain that these are ford approved parts, but they wouldn't guarantee me anything. Does that sound right? So called the Ford Performance dealership which is further away and they said they will install and honor warranty. When I asked him if I will get this in writiing he said no. He said they don't need to as it will all be documented electronically and be available to read at any Ford dealership I take it to. Reading this thread it seems like you guys are actually getting some type of physical documentation though, is that right?

Sorry for the long read but just want to make sure I'm as educated as possible before moving forward. I'll probably end up going to the FP dealer even though they're almost an hour away. Are there any specific questions I should be asking the dealer that I'm missing before getting this done? I should say that I got suckered into signing the extended warranty, so I want to make sure the tune will cover that and not just the original warranty.
 

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Been reading through a large chunk of this thread for info. Stoked for a tune that wont void my warranty. Tried to get as much info as I could from reading but some of the dtuff you guys are saying is over my head, and I still have some questions. I'm ready to order the kit and get this installed as quickly as possible. I'm still a newb to the mod world, and this is my first sports car coming from being a truck guy since I could drive. Still learning about everything. I'm not a drag or street racer. This is my daily driver, and I just like to have fun when I drive it. I'm competely stock.

So my main question would be did most of you guys with the tune already have an aftermarket IC on it? Or are you running it with the stock IC? Does performance suffer running the tune and CAI with the stock IC? Should I upgrade? I live in Texas and summers are brutal. Will I even notice enough to matter being that I'm just someone looking for some extra oomph and fun while driving? I couldn't really find an answer reading back through the thread.

Same questions regarding a CAT back exhaust too.

So I callled the delaership I got my car from and asked ther service dept about installing. They said they could do it, but when I asked about honoring my original warranty they said they couldn't guarantee anything cause I'm modifying the car, I tried to explain that these are ford approved parts, but they wouldn't guarantee me anything. Does that sound right? So called the Ford Performance dealership which is further away and they said they will install and honor warranty. When I asked him if I will get this in writiing he said no. He said they don't need to as it will all be documented electronically and be available to read at any Ford dealership I take it to. Reading this thread it seems like you guys are actually getting some type of physical documentation though, is that right?

Sorry for the long read but just want to make sure I'm as educated as possible before moving forward. I'll probably end up going to the FP dealer even though they're almost an hour away. Are there any specific questions I should be asking the dealer that I'm missing before getting this done? I should say that I got suckered into signing the extended warranty, so I want to make sure the tune will cover that and not just the original warranty.
1) You're always losing with the stock IC. If you're not doing long pulls through several gears you likely will never notice the difference though, it depends how much money you want to spend and how much hassle you're willing to deal with if you want to do it yourself - getting the bumper off is the worst part but there are lots of good guides.

2) Go to the Ford Performance place, probably easier since they seem like they know what you're talking about. If you ever want to update the tune, do it like some of us have:

- Get your laptop out and go to the site listed on the paper you get in the kit
- Put your code in and make an account under YOUR email address
- Bring the laptop and the OBDII tool to the car, plug it all in and turn the aux power on
- Let it populate the VIN and other info
- Go back to the internet and the Ford site and download your custom calibration file, save it on the desktop or somewhere you know where it is
- take the laptop with you to the dealer and have them use it to install the tune (you have to log in to the procal software with the account you created earlier, so be prepared for that)

This allows you to have the copies of the original tune and the new one, and also have access to the account if you want to update it later. If you let them use a shop computer you're stuck with whatever you get.
 

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I had the Ford performance tune installed at my dealers about 2 months ago.My car, a 2015 Premium auto PP is totally stock except for the tune. I can tell you it makes a world of difference in driving the car. No falling on its face at high rpms and NICE torque just driving around. I suppose if I drag raced the car I would notice a difference with a bigger intercooler, but just driving around it seems totally adequate. I can tell you this, it is not as fast as my 2012 GT auto was,but it is a heck of a lot closer! Just driving around it is easily as throttle responsive as my 2012 was and it would have beaten the stock 1966 426 Plymouth Street Hemi I owned! You will not be disappointed! I went from looking at the internet used GT's and wished I had gotten one, to totally happy the way it drives now.
 

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Been reading through a large chunk of this thread for info. Stoked for a tune that wont void my warranty. Tried to get as much info as I could from reading but some of the dtuff you guys are saying is over my head, and I still have some questions. I'm ready to order the kit and get this installed as quickly as possible. I'm still a newb to the mod world, and this is my first sports car coming from being a truck guy since I could drive. Still learning about everything. I'm not a drag or street racer. This is my daily driver, and I just like to have fun when I drive it. I'm competely stock.

So my main question would be did most of you guys with the tune already have an aftermarket IC on it? Or are you running it with the stock IC? Does performance suffer running the tune and CAI with the stock IC? Should I upgrade? I live in Texas and summers are brutal. Will I even notice enough to matter being that I'm just someone looking for some extra oomph and fun while driving? I couldn't really find an answer reading back through the thread.

Same questions regarding a CAT back exhaust too.

So I callled the delaership I got my car from and asked ther service dept about installing. They said they could do it, but when I asked about honoring my original warranty they said they couldn't guarantee anything cause I'm modifying the car, I tried to explain that these are ford approved parts, but they wouldn't guarantee me anything. Does that sound right? So called the Ford Performance dealership which is further away and they said they will install and honor warranty. When I asked him if I will get this in writiing he said no. He said they don't need to as it will all be documented electronically and be available to read at any Ford dealership I take it to. Reading this thread it seems like you guys are actually getting some type of physical documentation though, is that right?

Sorry for the long read but just want to make sure I'm as educated as possible before moving forward. I'll probably end up going to the FP dealer even though they're almost an hour away. Are there any specific questions I should be asking the dealer that I'm missing before getting this done? I should say that I got suckered into signing the extended warranty, so I want to make sure the tune will cover that and not just the original warranty.
I already had an aftermarket FMIC. There are benefits even for the stock engine. Especially in very warm areas like you are in. When the intake/charge air is that hot, the computer has to retard the timing to protect from detonation, that robs you of power. Cooling the air does 2 things, allows you to run more advanced timing and also provides a larger quantity of air to burn because cooler air is more dense. There is effectively more burnable air in the same confined space if it is cooler. As mentioned, the difference is mostly noted when you're doing longer pulls through multiple gears. Even an aftermarket FMIC will heat soak, they can recover from it more quickly so longer pulls are more noticeable.

Catback exhausts will just change the sound. We had a guy on the forum install bungs at several points in the exhaust and check pressure drops along the way. What he found was almost no pressure drop after the downpipe. Changing the downpipe can add a little performance, will change the sound but should be tuned for and Ford isn't doing that and will almost certainly cause warranty problems. Dealers are usually ok with catbacks but you should check with yours.

When you install the Ford Performance tune, it isn't "Ford" warranting it through the dealer, it's Ford Performance for 3 years from the date of first sale or 36k miles if the problem is determined to be because of the tune. That's why the dealer said they can't guarantee they will cover it. What they are saying is they can't guarantee that Ford will cover it but that's when your Ford Performance warranty comes in. Yes, you get a separate warranty from Ford Performance.

The area with your warranty you'll want to be careful with is you have a 5 yr 60k powertrain warranty from Ford. When you install the FP tune, they give you a 3/36 warranty on the powertrain. While the Ford Performance tune doesn't "void" your warranty, there's nothing stopping the dealer at say year 4 45k miles you blow your engine and they say we believe it was because of the Ford Performance tune and they won't cover it. Some dealers are more Ford Performance friendly and maybe moreso if they did the work but you should definitely discuss that with the Service Manager at the dealership you use ahead of time if that is a concern. Don't discuss it with the Service Advisor that writes up the paperwork or a Shop Forman, ask to speak to the Service Manager. He's the only one that can make those kind of promises. Know that even then, it's ultimately Ford's decision whether or not to pay for the warranty repairs, not the dealers. The dealer has a LARGE degree of influence but they are an authorized agent, not Ford and it's Ford paying for it. That was a long way of saying your only real guarantee is 3/36 with the tune but if I didn't say the rest, someone would argue.
 
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Interestingly enough the user manual actually states all cooling systems should be upgraded for track use to avoid thermal damage. Cooling system upgrades do not affect the warranty unless the installation was done improperly as they are not power adders and is specifically called for in the user manual for strenuous applications. Cooling systems which have increased capacity don't just allow you to make optimal power, they protect your car form thermal damage!

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So my main question would be did most of you guys with the tune already have an aftermarket IC on it? Or are you running it with the stock IC? Does performance suffer running the tune and CAI with the stock IC? Should I upgrade? I live in Texas and summers are brutal. Will I even notice enough to matter being that I'm just someone looking for some extra oomph and fun while driving? I couldn't really find an answer reading back through the thread.
I did not get an aftermarket IC... never seen a need. If I were taking it on a track I would.

Should you upgrade? Ha, ha... who knows. If I lived in Texas I might have one and a different story to tell you. Up and down the east coast in the summer is no problem for my car.... even while hanging out with some GTs for extended periods of time. According to some I should have blown the motor or been limping along at 2 mph hanging out with them for an hour half or so in 98+ degree weather... having a little "fun".

FP put out the tune without an IC...

I'm happy with mine without one... if others are happy with theirs, that is all good.

Far as warranty, yes, dealers can be a pain the neck... and it sounds like you have one that can give you a hard time. I had my mufflers replaced and one local dealer would not work on squeaks in the interior of my car... said my car was "modified". Another local dealer worked on it, no issue. Dealers have a lot of power when it comes to warranty work. They can simply pull your car around front and refuse to work on it....
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