Electromechanical conversion

[Geodudes550]

Why not just buy an old muscle car instead of ruining this one out of spite? I really don’t understand this mentality at all. I mean do you tell your dentist you reject modernity and refuse the x-rays and anesthetic too?

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[CVN 80]

Why not just buy an old muscle car instead of ruining this one out of spite? I really don’t understand this mentality at all. I mean do you tell your dentist you reject modernity and refuse the x-rays and anesthetic too?

All these responses remind me of when I'm building a CGI construct in Rhino or SolidWorks and hit a snag, so I go online looking for an answer. And I get this:

Me: "How do I do 'X' in Rhino?"
Answer: "Why are you trying to do 'X' in Rhino? Why not just do 'X' in Alias?"

 

[Geodudes550]

All these responses remind me of when I'm building a CGI construct in Rhino or SolidWorks and hit a snag, so I go online looking for an answer. And I get this:

Me: "How do I do 'X' in Rhino?"
Answer: "Why are you trying to do 'X' in Rhino? Why not just do 'X' in Alias?"

Me: “How do I hammer in a nail with a squid?”
Answer: “Why are you trying to hammer a nail with a squid? Why not just use a hammer?”
Me: “Spite”

 

[K4fxd]

All these responses remind me of when I'm building a CGI construct in Rhino

I figure it's your car and can do what you want and think is fun. I'll tell you the road blocks and a way over them if I know.

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because he could.

 

[ORRadtech]

I'll just say this.
I hope that if you actually try this conversion you intend to keep the car forever. Whether it works or not the value of the car will be seriously diminished. Possibly making it extremely difficult to even find a buyer for.

 

[engineermike]

Op reminds me of that member FatGuy who wanted to put a 7.3 in an s550 and thought he could easily just replace the digital network with analog. Shockingly, the project never got off the ground.

 

[mavisky]

I've met so many people in my past like OP. Dead set on doing something 180 degrees from the norm just because they had a unique idea. Unique doesn't equal good. Many of us have tried to prevent OP from making a terrible financial decision, but he's so insistent at this point I almost want to just sit back and watch the train wreck.

This isn't using a crescent wrench instead of a socket to tighten a bolt. This is trying to use a chicken pot pie to put a man on the moon.

The simple example of dealing with the frameless windows above is a perfect example of why a simple analog solution won't work. You'd need to have multiple analog solutions to monitor everything including door handle position, the door opening sensor, the position of the glass within the door, and you'd have to correctly manage the motor through timers just to be able to open the door without shattering the glass and also getting it to seal properly once the door is shut. In essence you'd have so many analog systems you'd massively over complicate the car which is why the OEM's moved away from those systems in the first place.

 

[K4fxd]

and you'd have to correctly manage the motor through timers just to be able to open the door without shattering the glass and also getting it to seal properly once the door is shut.

My driver side window is stuck in the up position and I have not shattered my glass.

If the crate ecu will run the engine without the other modules it is not really that hard to do. Just have to ditch the entire in car wiring and source parts from a 1970's or 60's vehicle.

George Barris did all kinds of shit most would have said "don't do it"

Too many negative people in the world.

 

[mavisky]

I just hope OP documents the entire multi-year process. I agree you can make the car run with the kit car harness that Ford sells, but thats $2,600 alone. Op would be better off putting $2,600 into savings and using that to fix any potential issues that do develop down the road than taking on this monumental task that will also have massive negative ramifications when it comes to resale value.

 

[K4fxd]

I just hope OP documents the entire multi-year process. I agree you can make the car run with the kit car harness that Ford sells, but thats $2,600 alone.

Depends on how much spare time he has. I hope he does document it I'd like to see it finished. Maybe a real 1969 Mach 1 dash in it. That would be cool as shit.

I never did think it was my place to tell someone else how to spend their money, except my kids when they were kids.

Good luck OP hope you pull this off.

 

[mavisky]

I'm not telling him what to do. Just warning him of the many massive electrical hurdles he doesn't seem to think he's going to have to cross and thebmassice financial impact pursuing this is going to cost him.

It's up to him to determine what to do with that information.

 

[sk47]

Hello; I read the first page of posts then skipped to the last few posts. I do not have any idea what it might take to transform a late model mustang away from all the computer controlled electronics. I cannot do that sort of work arounds needed. Disconnect a bunch of the gadgets and the existing computers will have to be reprogramed.

I do however very much like what the OP proposes. I grew up on analogue cars. Therefore, I know cars can be run without all those computer-based programs. I do not want to throw away the really useful computer-based stuff. I do very much like computer operated fuel injection. Guess maybe some could be tolerated with a modern automatic trans if you must have an automatic. In my fantasy the rest of the car could be analogue.

Having said that I do suspect I might have to fudge some on a few things. A few years ago the wipers on my truck only worked on high speed. Turned out there is a small box with chips and other circuitry attached to the wiper motor. Got a salvage yard wiper motor assembly & switched out that small chip box. Wipers have worked fine for several years. So, I may need to modify my fantasy a bit. Here is where I get to show my ignorance. My thinking is to have things such as windshield wipers be all on their own isolated circuity. If modern intermittent wipers need chips then Just run a hot and a ground to the wiper unit. A control switch of course. Do not tie the wipers into the CPU running the engine.

I was spoiled back in the 1970's when I bought a used Porsche 914. had the Bosch Jetronic fuel injection system. Only ran the fuel injectors. Engine ran on points for the spark timing. Rest of the car was old school. In my fantasy I will go for modern computer-controlled spark timing. Keep all the computer-controlled engine functions.

To the OP. It is implied to do what you envision with a 2020 GT will cost a lot. For a measly $250 K or so you can have a brand new 1968 Mustang. Built on a modern chassis with an all-new sheet metal body. get all the modern stuff such as rack & pinion steering and a modern Coyote with a stand-alone harness.

 

[sk47]

For a measly $250 K or so you can have a brand new 1968 Mustang. Built on a modern chassis with an all-new sheet metal body.

MUSTANG RESTOMOD, Brand New Muscle Car, Ford, Tulsa, Oklahoma

 

[Mike Pfeifer]

Gonna look like this when you are done!

 

[dpAtlanta]

If the Turbo Encabulator can be accomplished, then surely OP's quest can be achieved:



I would like to follow the conversion and wish him luck if he goes forward.

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