Edelbrock 2650 Warranty 2019 GT goes to the track!

[BlueCollarDaily]

Got a link?

Join the Edelbrock group on FB I think dude is in there, I believe his name is Seth White dont quote that may be wrong my memory is shot....
But he'll dude its easy to make honestly i could show where before this come out I was trying to get permission to do very similar...hell I wanted to change the size of that after idler anything for more wrap....you know just go up to Oriellys and dig they let me do it they are used to it....
I sat down with a piece of aluminum like a square piece and without even a work bench in my garage with that plate, some all thread, bolts and pipe nipples...MADE a bracket and hung an F2 on my 67 Camaro BBC and adjusted till the belts would track at 7300 hehe....it looked like holy hell....but worked a year till I got $1000 for the procharger one hehe....

If he stops making them just a strap 2 holes on center and one of the smooth 6rib idlers that's probably left over boom done could make it for $30...if warranty isn't a concern...

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[BlueCollarDaily]

I actually seriously hope your right because that track is legendary, produces crazy good content and entertainment and man if something like that can go, which makes no sense as isnt it nearly always full and one of the fastest tracks in the country? It never made sense....

I actually wish you best of luck because as you know I may be among you soon hehe....PLEASE let it run good I wish you would do a NT05R and then do real tire too selfishly for my own data hehe...

So soon I may not be able to make good on my claims depending on the dealership email Monday......trying to work into a 401a with smart n safe 3.55s and you know what else but I'm guessing assuming I live ( cause my doctors came me about a 13% chance of surviving covid19 hehe) I MAY have to wait till there is a left over 2020 once 2021 hit to get that interest rate that helps the hit. I had a dodge dealer make a fair offer but the car to be traded for wasn't in stock and I've GOT to see the new color ( like a burnt orange Sinamon Stick) before i sign...

So I should preface IF I have my car this fall....ill do what I said I'll do......i really want that digital screen and active exhaust with the safe n smart driver stuff now....

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Are there other Aux brackets out there for the stage 1 already? My friend hasn't given me a price yet. Your picture shows WAY better wrap than mine.



I ran without it the first few passes. Then the pass where it tried to walk out on me for one of the shifts... I put it back in and just turned off traction control (left advance trak on) it did NOT slow down. In the video is my full data log from the 11.15 pass. https://datazap.me/u/gcomfx/11-15-127... No pill in the vacuum line for boost delay. Dyno plug IN, traction control off. Rear tires at 18psi.



Lebanon Ford and I thought I was too. We were setting up the schedule for me to drive the car back up there. They made a call to Edelbrock to confirm the deal they offered to pay for the removal AND install of the Whipple. They took back their offer and told me to kick rocks. If you notice LFP currently doesn't offer Edelbrock. They took it off their website the same day.



PBD seemed to think so as well, but until I've actually done it... it's just a theory.



My problem is, I'm not just after a 60ft. (Don't get me wrong, I'll probably get a drag pack setup by fall. lol) I like to auto-x as well. It's the main reason I bought a PP1 car. You can't just throw on a drag tire and run around cones. I need the wheel hop to stop on a more reasonable tire as well.



I'm always looking for deal. lol I honestly think I'll auto-x as much as drag race though, if this crazy Covid thing ever stops. Right now drag and street racing is all that's available around here.



Don't feel bad... the "tuner" at Edelbrock bragged at knowing exactly what it was and couldn't solve it in two attempts. To be fair... even PBD took a few stabs at it before fully getting it lined out. One attempt resulted a police officer escorting me home (car was in limp mode) during a half throttle blip for my boys.

It just sucks I ordered the car the way I did and paid a healthy premium JUST to have the warranty (installed by an authorized dealership), to end up trying to help fix a tuning issue that happens on "some" of the A10 cars, but they never warned me about.... only to have it turn into owning a car for a full year, with NOW only 4,600 miles on it (legal advice told me not to drive it). To finally giving up as the fight was going to take forever and cost me even more and be a huge gamble against a big company with way more money than I have. So here I am... hoping there is no tick when I change the oil this evening.

Yes they make it for stage 1 and yea its the golden ticket to cure you slip gonna send you a pm...

Also it DID slow you car down because drum roll it didn't kick out....because drum roll that advance track was activated hehe seriously when you get your drag pack pull it at track.... but be super careful NON of these guys so far as been able to block enleanment except whipple and roush with their custom OS...i asked the question directly to Rob and VMP as well...and also if you notice in the stangmode video when he picks up Odin the VMP employee says whoops gets out pops hood and pulls it....

On my car its a huge difference on the big end around 90mph on to pull it and ive never went into limp mode, throttle shut, a short shift, timimg pull, or enleanment with it out and experienced all those randomly with it in...

Good point I'm definitely a road course guy can you imagine my ass flying around side to side and front and back!!!!!
It handles good enough for me on drag pack much less my 19s hehe if I keep it we need work up front we add a lot of weight.....

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Are there other Aux brackets out there for the stage 1 already? My friend hasn't given me a price yet. Your picture shows WAY better wrap than mine.



I ran without it the first few passes. Then the pass where it tried to walk out on me for one of the shifts... I put it back in and just turned off traction control (left advance trak on) it did NOT slow down. In the video is my full data log from the 11.15 pass. https://datazap.me/u/gcomfx/11-15-127... No pill in the vacuum line for boost delay. Dyno plug IN, traction control off. Rear tires at 18psi.



Lebanon Ford and I thought I was too. We were setting up the schedule for me to drive the car back up there. They made a call to Edelbrock to confirm the deal they offered to pay for the removal AND install of the Whipple. They took back their offer and told me to kick rocks. If you notice LFP currently doesn't offer Edelbrock. They took it off their website the same day.



PBD seemed to think so as well, but until I've actually done it... it's just a theory.



My problem is, I'm not just after a 60ft. (Don't get me wrong, I'll probably get a drag pack setup by fall. lol) I like to auto-x as well. It's the main reason I bought a PP1 car. You can't just throw on a drag tire and run around cones. I need the wheel hop to stop on a more reasonable tire as well.



I'm always looking for deal. lol I honestly think I'll auto-x as much as drag race though, if this crazy Covid thing ever stops. Right now drag and street racing is all that's available around here.



Don't feel bad... the "tuner" at Edelbrock bragged at knowing exactly what it was and couldn't solve it in two attempts. To be fair... even PBD took a few stabs at it before fully getting it lined out. One attempt resulted a police officer escorting me home (car was in limp mode) during a half throttle blip for my boys.

It just sucks I ordered the car the way I did and paid a healthy premium JUST to have the warranty (installed by an authorized dealership), to end up trying to help fix a tuning issue that happens on "some" of the A10 cars, but they never warned me about.... only to have it turn into owning a car for a full year, with NOW only 4,600 miles on it (legal advice told me not to drive it). To finally giving up as the fight was going to take forever and cost me even more and be a huge gamble against a big company with way more money than I have. So here I am... hoping there is no tick when I change the oil this evening.

Its probably my fault they spent over 20k on engines for me and didn't have any money left hehe....

I did get limp mode as an early adopter but that ended up being a harness extention....first time i hit it in fact....

Whats your car weigh? Aren't the PP1s heavier with stiffer suspension...i just keep getting more impressed with your times in 3000DA super humid with street tire and stock pp1 suspension

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Are there other Aux brackets out there for the stage 1 already? My friend hasn't given me a price yet. Your picture shows WAY better wrap than mine.



I ran without it the first few passes. Then the pass where it tried to walk out on me for one of the shifts... I put it back in and just turned off traction control (left advance trak on) it did NOT slow down. In the video is my full data log from the 11.15 pass. https://datazap.me/u/gcomfx/11-15-127... No pill in the vacuum line for boost delay. Dyno plug IN, traction control off. Rear tires at 18psi.



Lebanon Ford and I thought I was too. We were setting up the schedule for me to drive the car back up there. They made a call to Edelbrock to confirm the deal they offered to pay for the removal AND install of the Whipple. They took back their offer and told me to kick rocks. If you notice LFP currently doesn't offer Edelbrock. They took it off their website the same day.



PBD seemed to think so as well, but until I've actually done it... it's just a theory.



My problem is, I'm not just after a 60ft. (Don't get me wrong, I'll probably get a drag pack setup by fall. lol) I like to auto-x as well. It's the main reason I bought a PP1 car. You can't just throw on a drag tire and run around cones. I need the wheel hop to stop on a more reasonable tire as well.



I'm always looking for deal. lol I honestly think I'll auto-x as much as drag race though, if this crazy Covid thing ever stops. Right now drag and street racing is all that's available around here.



Don't feel bad... the "tuner" at Edelbrock bragged at knowing exactly what it was and couldn't solve it in two attempts. To be fair... even PBD took a few stabs at it before fully getting it lined out. One attempt resulted a police officer escorting me home (car was in limp mode) during a half throttle blip for my boys.

It just sucks I ordered the car the way I did and paid a healthy premium JUST to have the warranty (installed by an authorized dealership), to end up trying to help fix a tuning issue that happens on "some" of the A10 cars, but they never warned me about.... only to have it turn into owning a car for a full year, with NOW only 4,600 miles on it (legal advice told me not to drive it). To finally giving up as the fight was going to take forever and cost me even more and be a huge gamble against a big company with way more money than I have. So here I am... hoping there is no tick when I change the oil this evening.

I also put a $1500 retainer down after doing all my legwork bringing her a stack of info and she is quite accomplished evening winning some MagnussonMoss act cases...ultimately I didn't have to threaten as they did right ( my lawyer also wanted to take on Ford tsb7718 and she asserts similar to your complaint that you bought something in one running condition and after first oil change is sounds like a cummings diesel and did NOT, at the time disclose that at time of Demo and sale...aka conversation would be how you like that gen 3 coyote and 10 sir? Oh i loved it lets talk numbers...well before I do I have to warn you it won't always run quite like that it will get loose tick, 2k decel rattle you may have burger flippers tell you to check your car out cause they hear it at the window TRUE story, or old man at gas pump in running f150 tell you to check your oil thinoimg your to dumb and that's why it has Hella ticking hehe my long blocks after may 2019 much better though; that one would have been under lemon law so nothing out of pocket). Yes i was prepared to spend 10k to fight it aka the cost of the engine id build....if needed...i kept all receipt took photos or videos of.every fill up...and yes i was also told to not drive it hence I bought it 11/18 as a 19 and its only got 8k miles now....

However for me none of that was required in the end they did extremely right except it took years of my life as middle man i had to go between them, the car, the dealer and the installer...ive also tuned and run boost for 20 years and raced 30 so I also paid for installation at the time i absolutely didn't need for warranty...fun fact no one has broken oil pump gears with Edelbrock yet...so even that cost was added to you...my carfax is a mile long and imho they are responsible for the diminished value.....however life is about compromise and the combination of me being more than pleased with performance and them replacing 2 long blocks


IT occurred to me know what the last 30 years I enjoyed making a car be what I want it to be not how it came...why sure enough my family bought me this car to STOP working on my 67 Camaro Program and have a nice new car with some maintenance free power i can smash from time to time its been anything but...in fact aside from other things I had 2 bad falls working on it once I feel on a 3 ton floor jack and the other I almost died 2 inches to the left and a jack stand would have went thru my head....i get dizzy im not supposed to do this but ive had to literally from day one so I share your disillusionment....

Where we differ in experience is i was a bit greedy stage 1 was pretty damn good except the slip ( which in hind sight was solved ) imho stage 2 is a little much for true street tires and street use and certainly to much for stock engines and exhaust on 93....in this case Edelbrock tried to give us to MUCH HP.....EB did honor warranty its just made it all a damn mess and I think they have no faith in these engines...argue amongst yourselves if that's deserved or not i know as a long time builder what I like and don't like and what I will change as I kept my last core.......

If i had any problem going forward its that they stopped refining and developing the tune where with
Roush they provided an update with a significant output addition and cool down features, in case you don't know they can hold up on i think their volume button and the blower and fans will run 3 mins after shutdown and start when you open door..ask Styme for details...they get a new cal again soon....
2. VMP Loki/Odin offers custom tuning with the kit for a comparable price....
3. Whipple let's face it they are racers they also get direct access to Ford data and dynos same as Roush also run custom OS and provide updates, for instance THEY this week tried to help me with how to blow enleanment with my plug IN as they solved it, and have new cals coming...m

I do feel run over, dragged behind and vehicle and left behind....I just tell myself that hey it's badass now at least and I have started tuning myself....so im going to try to enjoy that process again....as I used to.....thats how I lay my head down......
The blower, stage 2 tb and airbox are badass and can make damn good power and hit like a stroker big block....I think maybe at end of day we are delusional to think we can buy have 38k car pop a blower on and warranty run faster than a Shelby GT500 using a predator engine and same rotor pack for 90k...hehe

 

[Burkey]

First off the NT05R will hook just fine, Track Prep proved that on his last pass

Add a IRS cradle lockout or Stop the Hop Kit and it will cure the wheel hop, lastly his car is PBD tuned now so there’s nothing to be gained unless his tune it off.

He went 11.15@127 in a Horrible DA
Come the fall it will run EASY 10’s

Having made passes in similar DA, I tend to agree with you. Pump fuel and boost don’t like it at all.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Having made passes in similar DA, I tend to agree with you. Pump fuel and boost don’t like it at all.

. If he has slip, and trust me I was probably one of the first ones griping about it, at the stock lenght at the time has few choices...the C Elite will grip a bit but within 5 pulls it would be lower and lower MAF in same DA...id pop a new belt on and gain sometimes 7 or 8 lbs per minute back to back....

If he buys the aux idler bracket kit for $150 he potentially has a little more boost on tap.....since it's custom tune id drop down to a 3.00 with it....
Then this is his first logged runs for PBD they will get it faster...and he will be glad in the end, though he doesn't have warranty, that he stopped right there...fixed the slip and got a custom tune....I certainly wish I could go back in time and put a 3.00 ( 11psi) on stage 1 with a custom tune and my original engine....odds are it would still be in there today warranty or not....and in 10s on a true street car which I've got a fast car so I never wanted to turn the world over with this one anyway....

Burkey, what do you run in this DA? And aren't you the one with the NT555RII tires I have high hopes for? How are they holding up? I get a huge discount locally but how distributor can't get them in my size ( 305 35 19) yet....have same in NT05s( non R 200 treadwear) and they are worthless on my car literally worthless on street anyway...

 

[100mphclub]

Cat Delete has been ordered. Still debating on which manufacturer's cradle suspension kit I should get.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Cat Delete has been ordered. Still debating on which manufacturer's cradle suspension kit I should get.

Perfect dont forget to inquire about the Aux idler...cat deletes will probably save your engine, im convinced that was a major issue with mine....

Man i went cheap as it gets 15% off bmr lock outs cb005 with $38 locator bushings, the cheapo $80 vertical links and most importantly drag rear alignment aka camber near zero static ..its like i had a different car.....i can hang the back out boiling tires and its much more predictable minus the latency from the ole stroke im having while doing it hehe...

 

[Stymee]

Cat Delete has been ordered. Still debating on which manufacturer's cradle suspension kit I should get.

I have BMR but if I did it again I would go Steeda Stop the Hop Kit, it’s only a couple more bucks

 

[brucelinc]

I have BMR but if I did it again I would go Steeda Stop the Hop Kit, it’s only a couple more bucks

I would also go Steeda.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Yea if money was no object Steeda but im pulling 1.61 in 2nd leaving like a street pull at track...will be 1.48-1.52 id guess leaving hard as I want pill out and full timing....

I have pulled 1.88 on street virgin street....less is more, then again ive had to divert funds to other things but a stop the hop, used to be on my list till I seen it could be done for less...i do have good shocks and mounts though...sure thats part of it....

Personally I find the adjustable camber arm and toe links to be unacceptably high for what they are...no much more to be gained for me on a budget other than maybe a control arm bushing to free it up more.....
Guess I could grind out the slots to get closer to static positive camber cause im not spending over $1000 to do it, id buy a killer chiller instead....heh..

Bruce were you the one with NT555RII im trying to remember one of the Roush guys took em to track...

 

[brucelinc]

I do have Nitto NT555ii in 305/35-19. I haven't been to a well prepped track to really judge them yet for an all-out hard launch. They are fantastic on the street in terms of traction, ride, quiet and safety in the rain. I think they will be good at the track but I will know more when I have more experience with them.

If I were a serious drag racer and wanted tires specifically for that, I would have MT ET street Rs. They are terrible for street use but stick like glue at the track.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

I do have Nitto NT555ii in 305/35-19. I haven't been to a well prepped track to really judge them yet for an all-out hard launch. They are fantastic on the street in terms of traction, ride, quiet and safety in the rain. I think they will be good at the track but I will know more when I have more experience with them.

If I were a serious drag racer and wanted tires specifically for that, I would have MT ET street Rs. They are terrible for street use but stick like glue at the track.

Well here is the deal they are perfect for me ( and anyone that kept warranty say from roush or EB hell maybe even the whipple charter ) because they fill a huge gap they aren't R race compound tires they are treadwear 100 like Toyo R888Rs.....so they technically wouldn't break warranty....and unlike the Toyos they come in that around 28 inch sizes we like to use...in fact they make them in a 305 45 17 !!!!! I am amped to try them with some side wall for a true daily....

Right now I got 19s with 305 35 19 nitto nt05s and they are worthless and dangerous on my car
I also got a hybrid drag pack with SS radials I keep aired up...

What I hope the new NT555RII would do is provide is provide me enough grip to be safer, my car will literally man ive got logs where God up to 90mph just annihilate them...can't even do a 3rd gear pull with 3.15s rolling down 4 lane....so if those would grip enough to keep me out a ditch daily hey that's all I ask...

Then my drag pack becomes more effective because right now it's hybrid with true 18 front tires in a 215 55 r18...and 305 45 17 rears....compromised with SS radials for rain which i have used literally 20 pair across my cars literally since the week summit first had em in stock.... but the R on the drag pack would be much better at the few times I go to the track....

I might even grab a second set of VMS rears and pop a set on NT555RII in 305 45 17 when they are produced in quarter 3...so i could swap between ET Rs and 555RII in exact same wheel and tire combo( and these cheapo vms fit good)...that would be nice, change 2 instead of 4 on a track day....

I got high hopes they specifically advertise better 60ft than NT05Rs cost WAY less than R888rs, come in that near 28 use linear racers like and make no noise!!!!

 

[tj@steeda]

Anybody looking or reconsidering - I am happy to help

Let me know if I can help assist at [email protected]

Best Regards,

TJ

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