DSC Magneride

[ldp82]

They are, but they’re only offering v2 and v3 dsc tunes are preferred by the users who have commented. That said, I have heard direct feedback from two users who prefer their own tune to the DSC tune.

I have been told that a V2 calibration will run on V3

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[CSL]

I have been told that a V2 calibration will run on V3

Yes, and I have heard the v3 tune developed by DSC is the best (at least feel-wise) thus far. That’s the problem, there is a lot of speculation and not much data yet. I hoped Cortex would have put more development into this, created and marketed various tunes, and shared more data. Maybe that is to come...who knows?

 

[Zitrosounds]

Wasn’t actually referring to a post in particular, just commenting on what I see as poor representation for the DSC at present. I’m a crap ambassador. ;)

Your comment was about OEM quality, but I’m not sure if you are just referring to testing, or the design as well. The DSC is a micro controller on exactly the same bus as the Ford counterpart. It couldn’t do anything without the OEM testing, and it has to live with the same external interface to the other components like PCM or other Ford devices. Ford OEM doesn’t have more sensors, and of course it’s the same Magneride, so DSC can only start where Ford stopped.

The largest benefit is the ability to be changed, or tuned to need. One tune of the DSC is no better than one Ford tune — but I would also say it is unfair to call it worse, without a good reason.

I personally have not called it worse or said that it sucks. I know that Randy Pobst personally loves the DSC in P cars for track work not street. Having said that, these cars spend hours upon hours on track testing and tunning. So when I hear customers say they love it, it feels good, that is all subjective. I have yet to see any quantifiable data showing an improvement in any dynamic category. I believe DSC is doing great things but just don't expect anyone to jump on the band wagon with no third party or verifiable real world results on this platform.

 

[CSL]

I personally have not called it worse or said that it sucks. I know that Randy Pobst personally loves the DSC in P cars for track work not street. Having said that, these cars spend hours upon hours on track testing and tunning. So when I hear customers say they love it, it feels good, that is all subjective. I have yet to see any quantifiable data showing an improvement in any dynamic category. I believe DSC is doing great things but just don't expect anyone to jump on the band wagon with no third party or verifiable real world results on this platform.

Generally agree with this. If this was a $300 mod it would be a no brainer to go play with it. In all likelihood it’s not going to hurt and chances are good it will be better. Even if it’s not in and of itself faster, the potential for it to improve the “feel” for the driver inspires confidence and is worthwhile. The problem is price of admission is steep to potentially just get better feel from the car. In my opinion a 10% group buy discount doesn’t offer much value until there is more objective information out there to consider.

I sure would love it if Ford just offered their own high performance calibration at a fraction of the cost like GM has done. They would certainly get a return on investment in that venture.

 

[fpa1974]

I personally have not called it worse or said that it sucks. I know that Randy Pobst personally loves the DSC in P cars for track work not street. Having said that, these cars spend hours upon hours on track testing and tunning. So when I hear customers say they love it, it feels good, that is all subjective. I have yet to see any quantifiable data showing an improvement in any dynamic category. I believe DSC is doing great things but just don't expect anyone to jump on the band wagon with no third party or verifiable real world results on this platform.

They do have quantifiable data for P cars and Corvettes at least. And with the risk of repeating myself, my feel is that GT350 is a bit of a second tier when it comes to active development and support. I would love to be wrong about it but until somebody proves me wrong I will wait.

 

[Niz55]

Is it possible to download R calibration files and put it on the non R shelby by using the Ford scan tool?

 

[fpa1974]

Is it possible to download R calibration files and put it on the non R shelby by using the Ford scan tool?

Even if it were, the shocks are not the same. But I do not believe it is. You could maybe get the suspension computer from an R and physically plug it in a non R though. I am not sure how well that is going to work either for the same reason.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Is it possible to download R calibration files and put it on the non R shelby by using the Ford scan tool?

Domt think so. There is a thread for things forscan. What good would it do if you could? The struts are different on the R.

 

[DSCsport]

Because we are a small company, we put our effort and focus into developing damper controllers to optimize OEM in a streamlined manner. The car manufacturers put in the investment to develop the entire chassis, while we focus on controller to control dampers using existing sensors and CAN-bus data. To us, tuning the damper in any new platform is no different than any front-running racing team tuning adjustable dampers for a race to achieve the quickest lap time. That really exactly is what it is. Give a race team a race car with a set of adjustable dampers, a pro driver to give input on the car's balance, an engineer to interpret the input, and rent a track for a weekend. That essential makes up the entire field in televised motorsport racing from factory teams to privateer teams.

DSCsport’s controller comes with our base map but this is simply the beginning. We also provide tuning software that leaves the customer in charge of the suspension, so each customer can dial it in as they see fit similar to buying adjustable dampers and tuning it to individual preference.

We also have a proven track record both on track performance and street comfort. DSCsport utilizes top-tier pro racing drivers, some of whom are factory racing team-contracted drivers, in our testing and our success is a direct result of the damper tuning knowledge gained from our IMSA Championships and Daytona 24-hour GT class winning programs. As a result, our product is similar to comparable products, such as the Porsche GT3/RS, Corvette Z06, SRT Viper, Nissan GT-R and the Focus RS. Our success is also reflected in our loyal and growing customer base. As a small company, we have the ability to be flexible and nimble to meet customer needs fast and with high quality. We understand that our product does not appeal to everyone, but we take pride in the satisfaction of our customers who have entrusted us with the performance of their dampers.

I hope we were able to address your concerns.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Because we are a small company, we put our effort and focus into developing damper controllers to optimize OEM in a streamlined manner. The car manufacturers put in the investment to develop the entire chassis, while we focus on controller to control dampers using existing sensors and CAN-bus data. To us, tuning the damper in any new platform is no different than any front-running racing team tuning adjustable dampers for a race to achieve the quickest lap time. That really exactly is what it is. Give a race team a race car with a set of adjustable dampers, a pro driver to give input on the car's balance, an engineer to interpret the input, and rent a track for a weekend. That essential makes up the entire field in televised motorsport racing from factory teams to privateer teams.

DSCsport’s controller comes with our base map but this is simply the beginning. We also provide tuning software that leaves the customer in charge of the suspension, so each customer can dial it in as they see fit similar to buying adjustable dampers and tuning it to individual preference.

We also have a proven track record both on track performance and street comfort. DSCsport utilizes top-tier pro racing drivers, some of whom are factory racing team-contracted drivers, in our testing and our success is a direct result of the damper tuning knowledge gained from our IMSA Championships and Daytona 24-hour GT class winning programs. As a result, our product is similar to comparable products, such as the Porsche GT3/RS, Corvette Z06, SRT Viper, Nissan GT-R and the Focus RS. Our success is also reflected in our loyal and growing customer base. As a small company, we have the ability to be flexible and nimble to meet customer needs fast and with high quality. We understand that our product does not appeal to everyone, but we take pride in the satisfaction of our customers who have entrusted us with the performance of their dampers.

I hope we were able to address your concerns.

I think the capabilities of your product is awesome and as you have stated, it is exactly how I understood your product to be. Thank you for responding.

 

[Zitrosounds]

The two most important bits from DCS Sport post,

"leaves the customer in charge of the suspension, so each customer can dial it in as they see fit similar to buying adjustable dampers and tuning it to individual preference."

"Give a race team a race car with a set of adjustable dampers, a pro driver to give input on the car's balance, an engineer to interpret the input, and rent a track for a weekend."

 

[Wine dude]

The real question is, How many DSC users have actually changed the settings which were originally set up by DSC? Or where the settings adequate that they developed?

 

[CSL]

I know of two who felt compelled to change the tune to their liking, and they are the only two I have seen post much about the DSC.

 

[Zitrosounds]

The real question is, How many DSC users have actually changed the settings which were originally set up by DSC? Or where the settings adequate that they developed?

[FONT=&quot]What's adequate? Feels better or actual lap time improvement? For me it must be lap times as I have no intention of making my R ride like a "Cadillac." I am certain that with the DCS controller/tuning software, time to interpret the input and a track for a weekend would most certainly yield faster lap times. Maybe someone like [MENTION=11290]xXANCHORMONXx[/MENTION] can exploit the device to its fullest potential. I would possibly consider this product with verifiable and repeatable data like there is on the GM and Porshe platforms. But there isn’t. Till then, I do not have the time to properly test and tune the suspension on a race track. I hope that the product takes off but with so few GT350's that are actually tracked, we'll probably never have good data and proven settings to go off[/FONT]

 

[snaproll]

I’ve been looking for the “cliff’s Notes” on shock tuning for as long as I’ve been driving. I still have no clue despite all the years of racing. My buddy in a fox body with 15 year old non adjustable Konis still can run with the fastest S550 in class out there.

Honestly, how does this work? There’s a huge educational opportunity here! We need data please!

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