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Does The EcoBoost Need A Catch Can?

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Sorry, just saw this. It doesn't. The crank case gets pressurized while you are in boost. Now I'm done.
perfect that answers my question and i understand what you basing your assumptions on, and now i am done.
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Thanks for the compliment.

My reason is that I just prefer having the ability to easily move things out of the way when working under the hood. Nothing wrong with your configuration IMO just me being particular.

Removing the entire can would be overkill. I've done it twice now and it's not too bad as it is.
Got it! Looking forward to final shots with your clamp selection. Nice work. :thumbsup:
 

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I too finally got my catch can installed last weekend. For a first timer the installation wasn't nearly as easy as the install video made it out to be - I had a heck of a time finding the end of the stock pcv hose where it attached to the engine (the end attaching to the intake manifold was more obvious, but only after I finally found the other end.) I put way too much thought into getting the stock quick disconnect to activate before I finally just pressed on the button and pulled it off - I was expecting to get the two clips on the bottom to click out. They don't :)

The other hang-up I had was with the fittings - I screwed them into the can hand tight (basically screwed in until resistance was had and then one more revolution.) I was hesitant to go further, even though there was a fair amount of thread showing as I didn't want to strip out the thread or damage the fittings. That wasn't enough as by the time I got home (90 mile drive, I did the install with my dad as he has access to a lift) the fittings were loose. Not out the can, but I can wiggle them now. I got some Teflon tape and am going to take the hoses off so I can re-tighten the fittings, and this time I'll take a wrench to them. I just need to make a bit of time to do so.

Overall the kit is nice but I could have benefited from some printed instructions - particularly in the two areas I had issue with (finding the stock pcv hose, and how tight the fittings should really be.) I could probably do it quickly now but there was definitely a lot of head scratching involved to get it on there :) I'll take a few photos when I get everything properly attached - oh, and the stock hose already had a decent coating of oil in it at 1800 miles, so getting a can on early should definitely help things...
 
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I too finally got my catch can installed last weekend. For a first timer the installation wasn't nearly as easy as the install video made it out to be - I had a heck of a time finding the end of the stock pcv hose where it attached to the engine (the end attaching to the intake manifold was more obvious, but only after I finally found the other end.) I put way too much thought into getting the stock quick disconnect to activate before I finally just pressed on the button and pulled it off - I was expecting to get the two clips on the bottom to click out. They don't :)

The other hang-up I had was with the fittings - I screwed them into the can hand tight (basically screwed in until resistance was had and then one more revolution.) I was hesitant to go further, even though there was a fair amount of thread showing as I didn't want to strip out the thread or damage the fittings. That wasn't enough as by the time I got home (90 mile drive, I did the install with my dad as he has access to a lift) the fittings were loose. Not out the can, but I can wiggle them now. I got some Teflon tape and am going to take the hoses off so I can re-tighten the fittings, and this time I'll take a wrench to them. I just need to make a bit of time to do so.

Overall the kit is nice but I could have benefited from some printed instructions - particularly in the two areas I had issue with (finding the stock pcv hose, and how tight the fittings should really be.) I could probably do it quickly now but there was definitely a lot of head scratching involved to get it on there :) I'll take a few photos when I get everything properly attached - oh, and the stock hose already had a decent coating of oil in it at 1800 miles, so getting a can on early should definitely help things...
Thanks for the order and the feedback Chaos! It seems we left out the instructions for un-clipping the stock quick connect fitting which has caused confusion for some folks. Great to hear you were able to sort it out.

The fittings will need to be screwed into the can using a wrench. They are an NPT thread so screwing them in all the way is not necessary, just to the point of being tight.

Thanks again for the feedback. Feel free to post up an installed shot if you can.

Enjoy!
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I can do more than just show one installed pic :) I finally made the time to get the fittings in correctly.

Here they are as I originally installed them. At the time, they certainly felt tight despite a lot of thread showing. However, after driving the car home I could wiggle both of them back and forth. I think they were still sealed to the can, but loose = bad.





I couldn't get the hoses off easily with the can in place since the fittings were so loose, so I removed the can from the mount which gave me a little more leverage. I removed one of the fittings and put a bit of Teflon tape around the outer thread, screwed it back in hand tight, and then gave it a couple of revolutions with a wrench. Big difference:





Here is the can back in the car with everything tightened down:





And finally, here is the end of the hose that attaches to the intake manifold. This is of course the easier of the two ends to find, but I'm not about to get back under the car to find the other one again :D Still, I hope this helps someone as I couldn't find this one at first either:





I'll also note that while I had the can off, I opened it up and it had an oily film inside already after driving the car with it on (and loose fittings) for 90 miles. Thanks again for the good price :)
 

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I can do more than just show one installed pic :) I finally made the time to get the fittings in correctly.

Here they are as I originally installed them. At the time, they certainly felt tight despite a lot of thread showing. However, after driving the car home I could wiggle both of them back and forth. I think they were still sealed to the can, but loose = bad.

I couldn't get the hoses off easily with the can in place since the fittings were so loose, so I removed the can from the mount which gave me a little more leverage. I removed one of the fittings and put a bit of Teflon tape around the outer thread, screwed it back in hand tight, and then gave it a couple of revolutions with a wrench. Big difference:

Here is the can back in the car with everything tightened down:

And finally, here is the end of the hose that attaches to the intake manifold. This is of course the easier of the two ends to find, but I'm not about to get back under the car to find the other one again :D Still, I hope this helps someone as I couldn't find this one at first either:

I'll also note that while I had the can off, I opened it up and it had an oily film inside already after driving the car with it on (and loose fittings) for 90 miles. Thanks again for the good price :)
Looks great! The tape should not be necessary. Being it is already installed, I would not worry about it. Nice job with everything and thanks for posting up your shots. Let us know what kind of fluid accumulates after a few hundred miles.

Thanks!
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Shit i forgot they come loose after awhile. I need to go out there and check mine.
 

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I noticed when I checked mine for the first time the other day the o ring was too big, so as I tightened the can on and I to push in the o ring until I could get it packed in all the way around
 

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Look at post #235 in this thread. I had the same issue and posted my solution. No problem now.
Thanks, I missed your post somehow. Good catch on the viton, I work in a chemical plant and use viton gaskets everyday. Sounds like the original O ring is not going to hold up, I would think Mishimoto will step in and fix cans with viton O rings.
 
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If the fittings are tightened properly they shouldn't loosen up. I do have an issue with the O ring on the can. I am curious if I'm the only one.

See post #17

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?p=534831#post534831
I noticed when I checked mine for the first time the other day the o ring was too big, so as I tightened the can on and I to push in the o ring until I could get it packed in all the way around
Thanks, I missed your post somehow. Good catch on the viton, I work in a chemical plant and use viton gaskets everyday. Sounds like the original O ring is not going to hold up, I would think Mishimoto will step in and fix cans with viton O rings.
Thanks for the feedback guys! As noted in the other thread referencing our o-ring, we are inspecting our current component and will be working to offer a more robust solution. For those with issues, please shoot us a PM and we will set you up with a replacement o-ring while we investigate the concern.

Sent you a PM doulos4jc!

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