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Just my opinion here- I've never heard of any manufacturer or Chinese distributor that rates their bulbs in "classes." On the chip level, you have binning, but I've never seen anything on the bulb side. I suppose it's possible, I've just never seen anything like that.

The differences are not in a QC selection process. It simply depends on the quality of components used and the quality of assembly.

You either use LED chips that are $.20/ea or knockoff, low-grade LED chips that are $.03/ea. You either use brand-name, quality resistors and caps that are within tolerance and spec, or you use cheap knockoffs that may be out-of-spec. You either program your own chips, or you buy them in bulk from someone and make them work (sort of) for your application.

Then, you either have trained staff that knows what a good solder joint looks like, or you throw a soldering iron into the hands of a new guy and have him start cranking out low-grade bulbs. You either have a newer SMT line with automated capabilities, including automated inspection, or you're putting together everything by hand, which leads to all kinds of quality issues.

You don't make a thousand then decide which ones are good and which ones aren't. You couldn't even inspect most of the circuit one they're assembled, so that would be impossible.

I don't mean to start an argument over it, but that's just not how electronics are made. There may be a distributor or trading company that is doing the "class" system themselves but when you're manufacturing directly, you make them at a specific level- you don't just happen to get "class A" bulbs. It takes good design, careful inspection, and uniform processes.

Again, I don't know how every distributor sells their bulbs, but if a seller is offering a newer bulb that looks like one of our designs, it's a knockoff of a product we originally designed and developed, whether in-house or by sending designs and specifications to one of our manufacturing partners.
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That ebay seller is located in the USA and has great feedback. How do I know that DD is anymore reputable than that ebay seller? What proof is there?
IMO...you have every right to purchase your LED's on eBay...Pep Boys...etc...

But to spend this much energy & time posting complaints about a forum vendor is not very cool...

The majority of forum member appear to be very satisfied with the product & customer service they've received from DD...

Time for you to move on...and enjoy the ride!



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Everyone complains about low wages and jobs going over seas. Here you have a local US company who is standing by their product.

And a great deal of people overlook the "quality" and go straight to the "cheapest bidder".

Break the cycle people. Buy American, support america. Yes DD may be a little more expensive than the Ebay stuff, but as clearly demonstrated, you are getting something for your money.

I have said it before. I work right down the street from the DD facility. Nice guys, doing things the correct way. They are not going anywhere. Can you say that about Ebay seller #44532?
 
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Everyone complains about low wages and jobs going over seas. Here you have a local US company who is standing by their product.

And a great deal of people overlook the "quality" and go straight to the "cheapest bidder".

Break the cycle people. Buy American, support america. Yes DD may be a little more expensive than the Ebay stuff, but as clearly demonstrated, you are getting something for your money.

I have said it before. I work right down the street from the DD facility. Nice guys, doing things the correct way. They are not going anywhere. Can you say that about Ebay seller #44532?
So if they built every part of the bulbs and assembled them here in the USA, for $120 each, instead of $60 (because they are built in China), you would still buy them?
 
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IMO...you have every right to purchase your LED's on eBay...Pep Boys...etc...

But to spend this much energy & time posting complaints about a forum vendor is not very cool...

The majority of forum member appear to be very satisfied with the product & customer service they've received from DD...

Time for you to move on...and enjoy the ride!



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BTW I am not complaining about DD. The entire premise of this thread was because I was wondering if DD was reselling bulbs or if they actually engineer ALL their bulbs themselves. I have already spent $100's with DD and have replaced all my lights with theirs. I just happened to see those on Ebay and they looked identical to DD's for less than half the price.
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