Clutch Questions

[Tw00sh]

I purchased my GT350 in last November and got a incredible deal on it (42K ish) The car is a 2016 tech pack and had 17K miles on it at the time. I have no idea how the previous owner handled the car, if it was tracked or not. I purchased it 6 hours away from where I live.

The shifting is not as smooth as it was in my 2015. I can shift no problems and there is no grinding, but it does require more aggressive handling to get it into gear. I just figured this was the rawness of the way the car is and its extension of the road and driving.

The clutch seems to engage fine, but two things have me slightly concerned. The car seems to not really want to go when I go full throttle at times when its not at full temp. Seems to just feel like its in limp mode. I do not hear anything from the engine that is abnormal, no ticks, slapping, or any other sounds and it revs up just fine in neutral and at idle. Wondering if this could be clutch slippage? I am not sure what the full symptoms would be?

The other thing is after some good spirited high rev driving (Which the car seems to do just fine), I noticed I can feel what might be described as looping in the clutch pedal. When I am idling with the clutch in, its as if I can feel the looping (vibration) of the car in the clutch pedal. As the RPMs rise to from 1000-2000 I can feel it but then it starts to fade away quickly. Not sure if this is normal or if the clutch or even trans would be doing this.

Wondering if I should take it to the dealer. I have the warranty until mid summer still, but so worried about the dealer doing anything with the car. Much less having them drive it for extended time to warm up the clutch.

Any thoughts, should I just replace the clutch first and go from there? Seems to be a pricy job without knowing for sure it would make a difference.

EDIT: Forgot to add I been checking oil and have not had a loss in last 2000 miles.

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[nastang87xx]

Are you putting it to the wood under 3500 RPM? If so, you haven't hit Voodoo-Tec yo. The Coyote has more torque than the Voodoo under 3500 RPM. An alarming amount more. Game over after 3500 though.

 

[Tw00sh]

I have been trying to drive this car at a much higher RPM range than my GT. I am getting use to not even shifting till 4K plus. Car just seems to love the higher RPM too.

 

[SVTinAR]

I understand that until the oil gets up to 190 F the computer won't let it go full throttle - which maybe why it feels a little soft when still warming up. I'm not sure if this is sort of like a 190 F off-on switch or if the colder the motor the more power reduction it dials in.

A simple solution to your clutch pedal sensation is to not idle the car with the clutch engaged. Sitting at lights with the clutch pedal depressed keeps the throw out bearing spinning which wears it, puts some load on the engine thrust bearing, the discs are still spinning in between the flywheel and pressure plates and making occasional light contact, the clutch tip is spinning in the pilot bushing/bearing (not sure what Ford is using) and wears - nothing good happens from doing that. I let the clutch out in neutral at stops until I'm ready to immediately go.

 

[raiderjatt02]

I understand that until the oil gets up to 190 F the computer won't let it go full throttle - which maybe why it feels a little soft when still warming up. I'm not sure if this is sort of like a 190 F off-on switch or if the colder the motor the more power reduction it dials in.

Definitely not true. You can go full throttle and take it all the way to 8250 as soon as you turn the car on. Obviously I wouldn't recommend it! But it's possible.

 

[CANTWN4LSN]

Even not at full temp there shouldn't be a lag, it's just that the car won't let you go to full rpm. I think since it's under warranty I'd take it in for a look see as you suggested. You don't know how the previous owner drove the car and seems to me someone else reported a clutch needed after around 20K.

 

[MikeMM]

Definitely not true. You can go full throttle and take it all the way to 8250 as soon as you turn the car on. Obviously I wouldn't recommend it! But it's possible.

Page 8 of your GT350 supplement. "* Redline is limited to 8000 RPM until the engine oil temperature exceeds 190°F (88°C)."

 

[Stang 19]

Previous owner could have messed around with custom tunes. Could have installed off the shelf from one of the many vendors or did his own programming and messed things up?

 

[nastang87xx]

Page 8 of your GT350 supplement. "* Redline is limited to 8000 RPM until the engine oil temperature exceeds 190°F (88°C)."

I think that page is broken. I've definitely slapped off the 8200 mark before 190 at autocross. Not trying to argue with you but...

 

[MikeMM]

I think that page is broken. I've definitely slapped off the 8200 mark before 190 at autocross. Not trying to argue with you but...

As long as it didn't blow up, it's all good lol. I'm sure it's possible to bounce her off max before then if you try hard enough, but that's what Ford says. Not really sure how much difference 250 RPM makes at all, but at least they tried.

 

[Stang 19]

I also noticed that in the supplement. Wonder if limited until Engine coolant is 190 or the OIL is 190? I bring this up because it takes a very long time for the oil to hit 190. Heck, i can drive for a long time and it still is not at 190. Also related, wo der if there is connection to excessive oil consumption for folks who dont wait for 190 and hammer rpm at lower temps? Just a thought!

 

[MikeMM]

I also noticed that in the supplement. Wonder if limited until Engine coolant is 190 or the OIL is 190? I bring this up because it takes a very long time for the oil to hit 190. Heck, i can drive for a long time and it still is not at 190. Also related, wo der if there is connection to excessive oil consumption for folks who dont wait for 190 and hammer rpm at lower temps? Just a thought!

Could be coolant. I thought I had read somewhere it was... but I can't find where I read that. Mine only ever hits 180 unless I'm really thrashing on it.

 

[Tw00sh]

Previous owner could have messed around with custom tunes. Could have installed off the shelf from one of the many vendors or did his own programming and messed things up?

I wondered about this possibility. I might go with a Lune flex tune and see if there is any difference. I have my ngauge from my GT. Would just need to pay them to unlock it and get new GT350 tune.

 

[Zeromaz]

Definitely not true. You can go full throttle and take it all the way to 8250 as soon as you turn the car on. Obviously I wouldn't recommend it! But it's possible.

This is false and its in your manuel. The car won’t rev past 7,900 until its oil temp is at 175 (i believe these are the numbers)

Edit: nvm. MikeMM nailed it

 

[NAG_GT350]

Ooo...fake news

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