Ceramic coating and orange peel

[Saywhen]

Weill I was heavily debating getting my new gt350 covered with ppf (all the major areas needed for minimul track day damage) and then get the entire car ceramic coated. I have a quote with a local detailer that does both with a combo price package. They use suntek ppf and ceramic pro 9h ceramic coating. Everything sounded great until today. A buddy of mine just had his f250 king ranch done by these guys and I got a chance to look it over today. First thing I noticed in the pics he sent me was orange peel on the doors, I chalked it up to photo quality until I seen it from my car pulling up next to him. I’ll try and get a pic or 2 up but WOW pretty much the whole truck has orange peel now! It shines like a new diamond but I can’t get over the orange peel!! I’ve never had a coated car or seen one in person that I know of but I’m pretty sure it’s not suppose to be this bad. Maybe it’s just me? Is orange peel a normal thing with the ceramic, or What happened? It’s very expensive and in my opinion I don’t want the trade off of ease of cleaning to make my paint job look like crap. I’ll try and get a pic up and see what you guys think. He loves it but I didn’t mention what I saw and I honestly don’t think he knows the difference

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[Cobra Jet]

Orange peel is usually due to the paint process at the factory... that is pretty bad IF that is factory paint and not the ceramic coating that resulted in the orange peel.

 

[Chainsaw]

Is that just a painted area or does it have ppf in that area? Before applying ceramic coating to paint, paint correction should have been performed first.

 

[Saywhen]

That area isn’t covered by ppf only the front bumper. I didn’t see the truck before the ceramic went on but I couldn’t imagine the paint being that bad from the factory

 

[Saywhen]

The entire truck except the hood and the bed over both rear wheels is like that. It’s even worse in person

 

[Stage_3]

I had my truck done with Cquartz Finest, which means only a certified and approved detail shop can do the job.
They did a full paint correction/paint prep and coated the whole exterior of the truck, including wheels with the Cquartz Finest. Looks amazing. Nothing like the photos in the first post.

 

[Stage_3]

Before applying ceramic coating to paint, paint correction should have been performed first.

^^Truth.

 

[robwlf]

yeah thats a lot of orange peel, i paint for a living and most cars have it but not to that extreme.. you sure that was never resprayed ? most orange peel is caused by to high or to low pressure when clear coating.. i try to match the factory when i respray panels.. but most times i lay it pretty flat

and ive had 3 cars coated , the ceramic wont cause that its the factory clear that is sprayed .. my current car is ceramic pro 9h
theres no way even paint correction will get all of that out factory clear is thin.. they try to get that flatter they will burn right through it ive seen guys try in my shop and we end up painting the panel they burnt through,paint correction is just buffing, clay bar, some light sanding if needed.. then compounding, polish then fine polishing..

if you want to know if it was resprayed take it to a good body shop or a car dealer and have them hit the panels with a laser micrometer it will tell you how many mils of clear and paint is on every panel

 

[Saywhen]

They spray the ceramic pro on tho right? Like a clear coat?

 

[Chad11491]

ceramic coated my car and it didn't change the texture at all. It's probably just making the orange peel more noticeable due to the enhanced gloss and reflections from the polishing done prior to ceramic coating.

 

[robwlf]

They spray the ceramic pro on tho right? Like a clear coat?

na its just a clear liquid they use a foam applicator with a suede square on top pretty much like waxing a car only you go side to side and up and down in small sections then buff off with a good micro.. ive never seen them spray on a ceramic coating

 

[Saywhen]

na its just a clear liquid they use a foam applicator with a suede square on top pretty much like waxing a car only you go side to side and up and down in small sections then buff off with a good micro.. ive never seen them spray on a ceramic coating

That’s what I thought also but in the ceramic pro brochure they’ve got a picture of somebody spraying it on a car out of a paint gun

 

[Matador91]

That’s what I thought also but in the ceramic pro brochure they’ve got a picture of somebody spraying it on a car out of a paint gun

Even if its sprayed on that's just part of the process. You don't spray or wipe on a coating and leave it. It has to flash, once that's done you wipe the whole panel down with a microfiber to remove excess coating material. The orange peel on that truck has nothing to do with the coating.

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