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Heey guys,

My 16 Ecoboost is currently at 7,500 miles and i have full bolt ons parts at home ready to be installed.

However, the only thing i didn't get yet is a catch can. Which one should I get? I've seen some members talking about white smoke after a downpipe and that it's solved in the updated PCV.

I'm currently considering the Misimoto one, but if you guys have different opinion, mind telling me what and why.

Thx a lot
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Yes..

Install right away before any other mods, and I get 2to 3 ounces ever time I change oil .. I change my oil every 3000 miles because I run e40 tune so not to mix fuels and oil in combustion chamber..(anti lpsi) prevention..:cheers:
 

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I get about 2-3 oz every 3000 too but it's mostly water with a very small amount of oil. I'm 50/50 on how useful it really is
 

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I cant recall anyone being able to track down any credible information that proves that catch cans actually work. There is no doubt they actually catch oil or whatever mix of stuff is in there. But who knows if that stuff is actually harming the motor in such a way that it will make any noticeable longevity gains on the car. In theory sure it makes sense, but as we all know, theory and practice arent identical, only in theory they are lol. Really the only way to test is to get 2 identical cars, same build date, etc. One with a catch can and run them both until one gives out and find out why it gave out. But of course thats a very extensive test.
 

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I cant recall anyone being able to track down any credible information that proves that catch cans actually work. There is no doubt they actually catch oil or whatever mix of stuff is in there. But who knows if that stuff is actually harming the motor in such a way that it will make any noticeable longevity gains on the car. In theory sure it makes sense, but as we all know, theory and practice arent identical, only in theory they are lol. Really the only way to test is to get 2 identical cars, same build date, etc. One with a catch can and run them both until one gives out and find out why it gave out. But of course thats a very extensive test.
Ok..

Go buy two and let us know:cheers:

Joking aside we will know when we wash our valves in few year and walnut shells clean them:cheers:
 

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Ok..

Go buy two and let us know:cheers:

Joking aside we will know when we wash our valves in few year and walnut shells clean them:cheers:
Its like saying a CAI will increase MPG and noticeable HP gains. In theory sure it should. But they are 95% sound and 5% throttle response. Why doesnt Ford just install a catch can on them from the factory if they are so vital? And just change the maintenance schedule so that the can needs to be emptied every so often?
 

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Its like saying a CAI will increase MPG and noticeable HP gains. In theory sure it should. But they are 95% sound and 5% throttle response. Why doesnt Ford just install a catch can on them from the factory if they are so vital? And just change the maintenance schedule so that the can needs to be emptied every so often?
because if warranty is 5 years and the problem shows up after 7 years, times that by the $14 catch can per vehicle and that equals *cheaper to pay the lawsuit of the maybe but maybe not know issue* aka the pinto factor but nobody dies:headbonk:
 

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Well, burning oil dilutes the octane value of your fuel. Running low octane is a recipe for disaster if you're modded and tuned. For the cost of a good catch can, it's cheap insurance. I posted some pics on Facebook of the mess out of my catch can. It's nothing but a cauldron of oil, e85, and condensation. For $250, I'll pay that every time to keep that junk out of my engine. Most people tend to focus on the valve coking issue as being the main reason for a catch can, but to me, the biggest reason is not to burn oil vapors and dilute my fuel. The PCV system on these cars are poorly designed for the amount of crankcase pressure they see and having a good catch can, like the UPR, will help to alleviate that, especially with a gutted PCV setup.
 

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Catch Can Again.

Here is how I look at the whole catch can theory.

Cost of Catch Can = $

Cost of a New Engine = $$$$$$.
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Win, Win...:first:

Good Luck...
 

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Why doesnt Ford just install a catch can on them from the factory if they are so vital? And just change the maintenance schedule so that the can needs to be emptied every so often?
Every car I have ever owned all the way back to 60s cars have had some sort of baffling to keep oil from being sucked into the PCV system. The 2.0 ecoboost in my Focus ST and the 2.3 ecoboost in my Mustang have the most sufisticated baffling I have seen on a car. So, Ford is trying to limit the oil going back into the engine. I don't think you will ever see catch cans from the factory simply because they have to be emptied and folks tend not to maintain their cars the way they should be. If the catch can was allowed to fill up it and it sucked a slug of oil into the engine it would cause all kinds of issues.
 

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Well, burning oil dilutes the octane value of your fuel. Running low octane is a recipe for disaster if you're modded and tuned. For the cost of a good catch can, it's cheap insurance. I posted some pics on Facebook of the mess out of my catch can. It's nothing but a cauldron of oil, e85, and condensation. For $250, I'll pay that every time to keep that junk out of my engine. Most people tend to focus on the valve coking issue as being the main reason for a catch can, but to me, the biggest reason is not to burn oil vapors and dilute my fuel. The PCV system on these cars are poorly designed for the amount of crankcase pressure they see and having a good catch can, like the UPR, will help to alleviate that, especially with a gutted PCV setup.
Mr. Bentley, show him the pictures from the Facebook group
 

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Heey guys,

My 16 Ecoboost is currently at 7,500 miles and i have full bolt ons parts at home ready to be installed.

However, the only thing i didn't get yet is a catch can. Which one should I get? I've seen some members talking about white smoke after a downpipe and that it's solved in the updated PCV.

I'm currently considering the Misimoto one, but if you guys have different opinion, mind telling me what and why.

Thx a lot
I will have sold or replaced my car before the potential benefits of a catch can arise. Plus, I'm not sold and I'm not big on introducing items to a car not applied at the factory.

Be careful who you listen to on here... there are a lot of opinions but most people simply repeat what they heard in another thread or some website. I'd research outside of this forum.

There are always upsides and downsides to any modification. Always know the downsides (everyone will spout the upsides until their fingers crack their keyboard).

Ensure your dealer is fine with the modification...
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