Car won’t start

[K4fxd]

Looks like Ford has found the problem. This is the first time I have heard where the factory has let the dealer take the heads off.

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[09cs]

Looks like Ford has found the problem. This is the first time I have heard where the factory has let the dealer take the heads off.

Oh really?!

 

[K4fxd]

All the other Shelby engine failures I know about the dealers were told to send the engine back intact. Do not take apart. If they don't know the root cause of a common failure, the dropped valve is common, they want the engineers to take the engine apart to figure out why it failed.

Your Dad should have no worries now. Enjoy the car.

 

[Tomster]

All the other Shelby engine failures I know about the dealers were told to send the engine back intact. Do not take apart. If they don't know the root cause of a common failure, the dropped valve is common, they want the engineers to take the engine apart to figure out why it failed.

Your Dad should have no worries now. Enjoy the car.

The policy has changed. I documented a 19 GT350 engine failure where the heads were removed.

 

[K4fxd]

The policy has changed.

That means they know why they were breaking. Any new cars and replacement engines should be fixed.

I call this great news.

 

[Tomster]

That means they know why they were breaking. Any new cars and replacement engines should be fixed.

I call this great news.

They are still swapping engines. They are not being repaired.

 

[K4fxd]

You are missing the point. Whatever was causing them to break has been fixed. All new assembled engines have the correction.

If it was a bad run of springs, they are now using good springs. If it was something else that problem has been addressed.

Has nothing to do with them replacing or rebuilding engines.

 

[Dcgtconv]

Holy crap, that’s quite the surgery! Looks very organized and clinical though, glad you are close to getting out of the hospital so you can get back to enjoying the car, cheers!

 

[Tomster]

You are missing the point. Whatever was causing them to break has been fixed. All new assembled engines have the correction.

If it was a bad run of springs, they are now using good springs. If it was something else that problem has been addressed.

Has nothing to do with them replacing or rebuilding engines.

And you know this how?

 

[K4fxd]

It is corporate practice.

 

[Epiphany]

I think Tom meant specifically, how do you know Ford made a running line change to the original spec springs?

 

[K4fxd]

I think Tom meant specifically, how do you know Ford made a running line change to the original spec springs?

That I don't know. Just using my corporate knowledge as a base.

The fact Ford is letting dealers take apart blown engines says Ford knows the root cause. If that has been fixed is an educated guess. That would come down to the bean counters.

Is it cheaper to fix the problem or eat the engines that fail. I don't know that answer.

 

[Tomster]

That I don't know. Just using my corporate knowledge as a base.

The fact Ford is letting dealers take apart blown engines says Ford knows the root cause. If that has been fixed is an educated guess. That would come down to the bean counters.

Is it cheaper to fix the problem or eat the engines that fail. I don't know that answer.

Ah ha! I thought so.

 

[K4fxd]

Ah ha! I thought so.

I have engineer friends in the auto industry I'll see if one will tell me.

 

[fishpick]

I'd be amazed if Ford doesn't address / update minor model year issues from year to year...

Like the brake recall - I'm sure that's changed now - as an example.

I always assumed that's why part numbers change over time - as an improvement is implemented a part number says it replaces part X.

All assumptions - but I really cant see anyone running a line year after year with a known issue in it unless its a retooling cost...

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