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[stanglife]

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[Rev Happy]

Haha. Saw that the other week. Dude has no fear! Shows you really what these cars can do. Looks like he just has a track alignment.

Edit...also looks like he's running Trofeo Rs?

 

[stanglife]

Reminded me of this...where the ZL1 was 3 secs faster than the 350R. Well what now?
https://carbuzz.com/news/the-camaro-zl1-just-destroyed-the-mustang-gt350r-s-nurburgring-time

 

[lightrules]

Reminded me of this...where the ZL1 was 3 secs faster than the 350R. Well what now?
https://carbuzz.com/news/the-camaro-zl1-just-destroyed-the-mustang-gt350r-s-nurburgring-time

ZL1 1LE: hold my

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...l1-1le-storms-the-nurburgring-in-716-04-video

{still an awesome video though of the R rippin thru the 'ring}

 

[Rev Happy]

ZL1 1LE: hold my

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...l1-1le-storms-the-nurburgring-in-716-04-video

{still an awesome video though of the R rippin thru the 'ring}

Yup, the 1LE is fast. Would love to see what a GT500 on tires could do there too.

 

[ice445]

ZL1 1LE: hold my

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...l1-1le-storms-the-nurburgring-in-716-04-video

{still an awesome video though of the R rippin thru the 'ring}

Everyone knows the Alpha chassis is better, so when you stuff an extra 120HP behind it I can't say I'm super surprised.

I'm fairly confident though that for the average driver, the GT350R would be more enjoyable to rip down the nurb. It's easy to get dazzled from times by pro drivers pushing cars to their limits, but it's another thing entirely to drive there yourself.

 

[16Kobra]

Everyone knows the Alpha chassis is better, so when you stuff an extra 120HP behind it I can't say I'm super surprised.

I'm fairly confident though that for the average driver, the GT350R would be more enjoyable to rip down the nurb. It's easy to get dazzled from times by pro drivers pushing cars to their limits, but it's another thing entirely to drive there yourself.

True statement!!

 

[stanglife]

ZL1 1LE: hold my

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...l1-1le-storms-the-nurburgring-in-716-04-video

{still an awesome video though of the R rippin thru the 'ring}

I lold

 

[16Kobra]

Nurburging is a bucket list item

 

[proeagles]

Great time considering the traffic

 

[honeybadger]

Ooof. Dude was haulin' Pretty damn good at carrying momentum and not riding the brakes/braking too early and was fairly smooth from what I could tell. I'll bet he's having so much fun in that car over there.

Here's another video that shows his hands - . Smooth!

Looks like those tires are helping him a lot, though. He's realllllly leaning on them for cornering vs. setting the car and driving through the corner. Looks like he's coming from FWD hatches, so that makes sense. With his speed, I hope he's continuing to get coaching. He's moving!

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Frank.Herbst]

A couple of us were at HPR Saturday with the Shelby club. It took several laps to get familiar with 15 turns. Don't know if there would be enough time for me to learn 75+ turns (depending on how you count them) at nurburgring.

 

[oldbmwfan]

A couple of us were at HPR Saturday with the Shelby club. It took several laps to get familiar with 15 turns. Don't know if there would be enough time for me to learn 75+ turns (depending on how you count them) at nurburgring.

I've done 3 laps at the 'Ring in a Renault Clio Sport (very similar power/weight to a Fiesta ST). I chose to rent a lower-powered car on purpose, because the track is intimidating enough without the car also being a handful. Times were 10:31, 9:51, 9:48. It is very hard to learn and even on the third lap I found myself getting confused, because the entrance to some complexes looks the same but the way you drive through them is very different. I was proud to have broken 10:00 on my first trip, in a low-powered car. A friend and I split 6 laps (and alternated), so it was helpful to both ride and drive. If you do this, make sure it's with someone you trust!

The folks who live there and drive it frequently say it takes ~20 laps to generally learn the track enough to know where you are going so you can be reasonably quick and safe, but well over 100 laps to be able to confidently push. I believe that. The biggest unlock for speed is that there are some blind curves that can be truly taken flat in most vehicles. It is VERY intimidating to try when you aren't 100% sure you remember what's around the bend! And just a little lift costs a LOT of speed on the back side of the corner. I found myself doing those little "chicken lifts" all over the place. I don't regret it, because that is better than the opposite (thinking it's flat out and getting it wrong).

Can't wait to go back. I've driven many tracks, but that place is truly special.

 

[stanglife]

Been on the track as a passenger with a friend and also a ring taxi (M5) but haven't driven it. I was thinking about it but saw another car, which was a group of people we were with, wrecked on the side...which turned into a small ordeal for the owner...as this is a regular toll road, so all traffic laws apply...and you have to pay for property damage if you hit even a small barrier.

 

[Frank.Herbst]

I've done 3 laps at the 'Ring in a Renault Clio Sport (very similar power/weight to a Fiesta ST). I chose to rent a lower-powered car on purpose, because the track is intimidating enough without the car also being a handful. Times were 10:31, 9:51, 9:48. It is very hard to learn and even on the third lap I found myself getting confused, because the entrance to some complexes looks the same but the way you drive through them is very different. I was proud to have broken 10:00 on my first trip, in a low-powered car. A friend and I split 6 laps (and alternated), so it was helpful to both ride and drive. If you do this, make sure it's with someone you trust!

The folks who live there and drive it frequently say it takes ~20 laps to generally learn the track enough to know where you are going so you can be reasonably quick and safe, but well over 100 laps to be able to confidently push. I believe that. The biggest unlock for speed is that there are some blind curves that can be truly taken flat in most vehicles. It is VERY intimidating to try when you aren't 100% sure you remember what's around the bend! And just a little lift costs a LOT of speed on the back side of the corner. I found myself doing those little "chicken lifts" all over the place. I don't regret it, because that is better than the opposite (thinking it's flat out and getting it wrong).

Can't wait to go back. I've driven many tracks, but that place is truly special.

Blind curves at full speed and paying for damage. That's out of my pay grade.

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