Best setup?

[udcvsean]

If you’re going for looks, then there’s a large number of options in terms of springs. If you’re going more for performance, I would not recommend lowering the car a whole lot. The suspension geometry is sensitive particularly in the rear. I would rather a 3/4” drop something along those lines. The lower COG will improved handling but without messing up geometry too bad.

So depending on what your priority is, a lot of different options would work for you. Personally, I like the BMR SP763s as an option for you. But if that’s not enough of a drop, I also like the Steeda Sport Springs ~200-800 rates I believe front/rear, 1” drop. I like the rates of both of these springs and 1” drop of the Sports won’t mess up geometry too bad. Although I do prefer a lesser drop than 1” which is why I changed my springs. But I care more about handling performance rather than looks. Although a great stance was just a bonus.

Personally I prefer a linear rate to a progressive rate. It lends to a much more direct and predictable handling feel. Progressives have their purpose and achieve that purpose (sort of) but it didn’t work for me.

If you want a larger drop and you could look into the Eibach Sportlines or the Steeda Ultralites. The Swift Spec Rs have great reviews (they have a much stiffer front rate and a softer rear). The rear is more penalized for ride so a stiffer rear spring rate might be undesirable in some cases. But if the ride frequency is well matched and you have good dampers, you can still get a good ride even though the overall rates are higher.

Since you’re asking for best setup I’m gonna say BMR SP763, Ford Racing shocks and struts, CB005 and Steeda billet shock mounts. You’ll have a great riding car and significantly improved handling from the stock car. And a relatively flat good looking stance, albeit more subtle and not eye popping.

Since I don’t have a PP GT, would it be better for me to just get the Ford Performance Street Handling Pack instead of the BMR SP763 springs and Ford Racing shocks & struts separately? Cost is almost the same but I’d be getting sway bars with the pack as well. I like the minimum drop SP763 but can only find the Ford Performance Track Shock & Strut kit, which I assume is different from the PP shocks/struts and probably not suitable for daily driving?

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[tj@steeda]

You're gonna get a lot of mixed opinions here on brand due to the various allegiances, but a popular setup is usually approximately 1" on all four corners of drop, and 1" (25mm) spacers to get a flush/aggressive appearance.

Having just went through a big suspension do-over on my Mustang, a lot of the options are fresh in my mind.

It really boils down to these general strategies, from cheapest/simplest to most-expensive/more-advanced:

• Lowering springs. BMR, Steeda, CJPP, Swift, Eibach and many others make springs. You need to decide on the kind of rate you want, the drop front/rear, as well as whether you want linear or progressive. Linear springs have a constant rate as the spring squeezes. Progressive springs get stiffer as the spring collapses (hence why they tend to have a |\/\ / \ / appearance vs |/\/\/|
• Springs + Shocks/Struts. A lot of the same stuff applies from above, but when you pair with aftermarket struts the interaction/dynamics between spring and shock/strut are going to change the behavior of the ride. Costs more but with the right pairing, you will have a better driving experience.
• Springs + Shocks/Struts + Supporting mods. Same as above but add-on all the other goodies to remove slop/deflection in the various OEM parts. Replacing bushings with bearings, replacing arms with mor adjustability, camber plates, etc..
• Coilovers + supporting mods. This is a lot more expensive but will also offer you more adjustability. The coil body is threaded so you can set ride height on each individual corner. The damper usually has adjustable rebound, sometimes compression etc... There is a wide spectrum of coilover, some are cheap and ass garbage and others are really pricey and can even offer electronic damper adjustment.

Most folks with a PP tend to grab some simple lowering/performance springs to start. I started with the BMR SP080 but didn't enjoy the rake (which is by-design) and have since transitioned to Steeda parts (sitting in my garage waiting to be put on) Try springs out, its like $200-400 depending on who you go with and will really improve the feeling of the car.


You're gonna hear a lot about BMR and Steeda from folks on the forum. There are other brands but they tend to be the most popular! Do some research and good luck!

Hello Hooch,

Thank you for providing your contact info - I will have one of our techs follow-up with you & you can decide on which set-up is best suited for you.

We appreciate your support & look forward to working with you.

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[Bluemustang]

Since I don’t have a PP GT, would it be better for me to just get the Ford Performance Street Handling Pack instead of the BMR SP763 springs and Ford Racing shocks & struts separately? Cost is almost the same but I’d be getting sway bars with the pack as well. I like the minimum drop SP763 but can only find the Ford Performance Track Shock & Strut kit, which I assume is different from the PP shocks/struts and probably not suitable for daily driving?

Short answer? No and no. IMO the BMR springs will be better due to their linear rate. The Ford Racing track dampers shouldn’t degrade the ride quality. But it will reduce/eliminate the notorious bounce of the PP shocks.

It’s not a bad package and I don’t want to discourage you from it. It’s just my preference for linear springs over the progressive springs in the street handling pack. Plus the Ford Racing track dampers are far superior with control. The sway bars IMO are not needed. The upgraded shocks will improve handling more than sway bars would and without the downsides.

For me it’s a handling feel thing. I realized I prefer a linear spring rate after coming from the Ford Racing track springs which are also progressive (albeit a stiffer rate overall).

 

[Rebellion]

Since I don’t have a PP GT, would it be better for me to just get the Ford Performance Street Handling Pack instead of the BMR SP763 springs and Ford Racing shocks & struts separately? Cost is almost the same but I’d be getting sway bars with the pack as well. I like the minimum drop SP763 but can only find the Ford Performance Track Shock & Strut kit, which I assume is different from the PP shocks/struts and probably not suitable for daily driving?

The Street set is basically PP but lowered 1". You could say it's an upgrade, but in my opinion, the difference is not enough to be worth the money and time invested. Dampers are decent-ish but not particularly desirable, same with spring rates/progressive/drop.

From talking to folks and this forum, the Track dampers are a much better option in term of ride and handling, and can match a larger variety of spring rates, this is why it's recommended so much instead of the Streeet/PP or other softer ones. Many of us have gone through a number of dampers just to end up with the Track dampers.

With springs, I'd prefer stiffer and linear...give a more sporty, always-on, and predictable behavior than the equivalent rate in progressive. There are a number of options depending on the look you want. I particularly like the Steeda Ultralite rates for 1" ish lowering, and BMR sp083 or Shelby springs for track/autox/street use for a sub 1" lowering.

 

[Bluemustang]

I agree with what Rebellion said above 100%.

 

[udcvsean]

Thanks to you both, that clarifies it perfectly for me! I imagine I’d prefer linear springs too, was just worried about ride quality because I commute 50 miles a day in my Mustang. But I don’t mind some stiffness if I can get a better and more predictable handling feel.

Time to start saving... $1,330 total for the FR dampers, BMR springs, Steeda billet shock mount, CB005, and Steeda alignment kit. Then probably $300 or so for labor? Can get this stuff done just in time for summer!

Thanks again.

 

[BmacIL]

Thanks to you both, that clarifies it perfectly for me! I imagine I’d prefer linear springs too, was just worried about ride quality because I commute 50 miles a day in my Mustang. But I don’t mind some stiffness if I can get a better and more predictable handling feel.

Time to start saving... $1,330 total for the FR dampers, BMR springs, Steeda billet shock mount, CB005, and Steeda alignment kit. Then probably $300 or so for labor? Can get this stuff done just in time for summer!

Thanks again.

Autonation Whitebear Lake has by far the best price on the FR dampers:
https://parts.autonationfordwhitebe...ack-strut-and-shock-kit-m-18000-f?parent=1093

One thing to take note of that [MENTION=26233]Rebellion[/MENTION] found: the FR dampers may feel pretty stiff brand new for maybe 50-100 miles, but they break in and then ride beautifully. I didn't have the same experience but it's a possible thing.

 

[tj@steeda]

We have several set-ups that will compliment your style ... we have tailored them to fit your needs:

Steeda Comfort Package

Steeda Handling Package

Steeda Track Suspension Package

We have done an extensive amount of testing both on & off the track ... achieving great results -- winning championships & setting world-records.

With over 30+ years in the marketplace & we offer the largest complete line of Ford based parts and accessories in the world.

Here is a great video by our partners at American Muscle giving you a high-level overview of our Progressive springs ... when paired with the Pro Actions, give you an incredible ride quality.

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There are some great set-ups out there ... but we are very confident in our abilities to make springs/shocks & struts to fit your needs.

Happy to help with forum pricing or put you in contact with our build experts today.

Best Regards,

TJ

 

[Hoooch7173]

Wow! So much info. I guess I need to wrap my head around all of it and find out exactly what I want. You guys are freaking fantastic! Thank you all for the info. I know everything is all personal preference and I have the unfortunate addiction of always going way overboard. Some really good input here and I greatly appreciate all of it. I think I'll start small and add as needed. I'll keep updates coming as I go. Thank you again to a great bunch of peeps.

 

[tj@steeda]

Wow! �� So much info. I guess I need to wrap my head around all of it and find out exactly what I want. You guys are freaking fantastic! Thank you all for the info. I know everything is all personal preference and I have the unfortunate addiction of always going way overboard. Some really good input here and I greatly appreciate all of it. I think I'll start small and add as needed. I'll keep updates coming as I go. Thank you again to a great bunch of peeps.

Sounds good, Hooch - whichever route you go, would love to hear your feedback!

Glad the forum & members could provide you insight - have a great weekend!

TJ

 

[SteedaTech]

Wow! �� So much info. I guess I need to wrap my head around all of it and find out exactly what I want. You guys are freaking fantastic! Thank you all for the info. I know everything is all personal preference and I have the unfortunate addiction of always going way overboard. Some really good input here and I greatly appreciate all of it. I think I'll start small and add as needed. I'll keep updates coming as I go. Thank you again to a great bunch of peeps.

Here are some great some pic's of Our Steeda Progressive springs in action at Sebring International raceway.

SteedaTech

 

[AStang25]

Hello there... I was hoping to get some advice on which lowering springs to get. Let me preface this by saying my 2017 PP ecoboost is the first mustang ive had... And at this point am looking to upgrade to a V8 eventually (maybe in a year or 2). At that point I would most likely be looking for bags or coilovers. So I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money on this since I'll be selling this car in a year or 2. However, I would like something affordable... And something that eliminates most of my wheel gap (not more than 2 inches lowered maybe even 1 or 1 1/2). If it improves handling thats a plus. Any recommendations on a basic lowering spring? Also I would have to have it professionally installed. How much total would I have to spend? I know I would need an alignment. I've noticed some springs that lowers your ride 1 inch all around for 150. Can I use stock parts and just swap the springs out? Any feedback would be appreciated... And I am on a budget. Here's my wheel gap.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Given that you're going to sell or trade this car inside of two years, I strongly recommend against lowering it more than about 1".

Snipped from a spring compilation put together by BmacIL.

I have no idea where the cost of professional installation runs. Sorry.


Norm

 

[Grintch]

Looking for some advice. I have a 2017 GTPP and I'm looking to upgrade the suspension. It just doesn't seem tight enough for me. Minion will never see the track, but I am however a very very spirited driver and am also looking to achieve the mean "I'm coming for you stance" This is the first change I'm looking for in the car along with the Solo Performance growl that's going with it. Any thoughts? It's all appreciated. Thank you in advance.

If you are a "very, very spirited driver" why will the car never see the track?

Which is more important a "mean stance" or handling well? Because these requirements can conflict.

There is no one best setup. There is a best setup for the way you drive, to do x type of driving (or to get y stance), with a budget of z.

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