Aussie S650 wait List and deposits?

[50ALM]

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[Bulutt]

I think the deposit is normal to secure your place and potential order BUT it should be noted you get a refund if you change your mind and don’t order once all details are confirme.

 

[snake bite]

I simply wouldn't deal with dealership 2. They are already playing games imagine the service they will provide.

 

[PKs]

Not quite.
I specifically asked about "what if I changed my mind?"
Dealer (#2) said you can't just change your mind.
However, if you have a "change of circumstances", then that's OK.

It's word games.
But something to be aware of.

Please name dealer #1

 

[DFB5.0]

Three weeks ago, I walked into my local dealer and placed a deposit to get myself in the line for the new model. They made up a dummy invoice/contract until details are released. I'm first on their list. I have bought a few cars there, so I have no problem putting money down without knowing exact specs and prices.

I decided to stay with a GT Hardtop. While I would love a Darkhorse, I think price of those is going to shock a lot of people. I would not be surprised to see prices north of $110,000. That's just not the sort of money I want to spend on a Ford. A Jaguar F-Type maybe, certainly not a Ford.

This time I want to go with the 10-speed, most likely will be Race Red again, or maybe Atlas Blue.

I'm both excited and sad about this. Excited for a new Mustang experience, sad because it will mean saying goodby to a very special car. As it stands, I will have another 12-18 months to enjoy my S550. If I change my mind later on, then so be it.

Funniest part of placing an order for a car that doesn't even exist and is nearly two years away -

Two days later, I got a call from the Ming Mole wanting to sell me a ceramic coating, window tinting and a dash camera. My response was polite but to the point; "Honey, considering the car is nearly two years away, I don't really want to think about paint protection and dash cameras right now. And even so, I'm a detailer so will be doing that myself; I get off on that sort of thing!" Probably would have paid her to look at the contract or speak to the salesman before calling me about that.

 

[GT 550]

Two days later, I got a call from the Ming Mole wanting to sell me a ceramic coating, window tinting and a dash camera.

 

[Stevefreestyle]

Just saw Stangmode on youtube saying an "Insider" assured him Ford have finally sorted and got on top of the Production delay issues which have been plaguing them, and "there will be no more delays"...with the MY24.

He also said there was a strong rumor that the Dark Horse will start in the US at US$50K to US$60K FULLY Optioned. If this proves correct, it would contradict all the hand-wringing pricing Doom-Sayers, placing it circa Au$ 82K-98K + ORC depending on Options.

 

[DFB5.0]

Just saw Stangmode on youtube saying an "Insider" assured him Ford have finally sorted and got on top of the Production delay issues which have been plaguing them, and "there will be no more delays"...with the MY24.

He also said there was a strong rumor that the Dark Horse will start in the US at US$50K to US$60K FULLY Optioned. If this proves correct, it would contradict all the hand-wringing pricing Doom-Sayers, placing it circa Au$ 83K-99K + ORC depending on Options.

But does that $83 - $99K include import duties, GST and luxury car tax?

 

[Stevefreestyle]

But does that $83 - $99K include import duties, GST and luxury car tax?

I allowed a $4K Buffer, however as I stated it does not include ORC (Gov LCT & Stamp Duty / Rego)

LCT is currently an extortionate 33% over the $71,849 Threshold, which includes GST but not Rego & Stamp Duty etc.

 

[50ALM]

Just saw Stangmode on youtube saying an "Insider" assured him Ford have finally sorted and got on top of the Production delay issues which have been plaguing them, and "there will be no more delays"...with the MY24.

He also said there was a strong rumor that the Dark Horse will start in the US at US$50K to US$60K FULLY Optioned. If this proves correct, it would contradict all the hand-wringing pricing Doom-Sayers, placing it circa Au$ 82K-98K + ORC depending on Options.

[rant]
I unsubscribed and stopped watching that guy just recently.
Since he went full-time Youtuber, the number of ads within any of his videos has become unbearable.
If it's a 10 minute video, it takes him 5 minutes to get to the actual topic of the video.
He is just dragging out the view hours and bleeding the life out of everything.
It's so obvious, and so sad at the same time.
There are other channels that are more informative, more to the point, and can actually edit so it's watchable.
It beggars belief he was chosen to be up on stage of the reveal.
[/rant]

 

[50ALM]

I allowed a $4K Buffer, however as I stated it does not include ORC (Gov LCT & Stamp Duty / Rego)

LCT is currently an extortionate 33% over the $71,849 Threshold, which includes GST but not Rego & Stamp Duty etc.

We should expect the LCT for 2023-2024 FY to be $73 ~74k, if the gas guzzler indexation ratio remains around the same.
https://www.ato.gov.au/rates/luxury-car-tax-rate-and-thresholds/

Although being a leftard government, they are always looking for new ways to gouge and tax more.

 

[Stevefreestyle]

We should expect the LCT for 2023-2024 FY to be $73 ~74k, if the gas guzzler indexation ratio remains around the same.
https://www.ato.gov.au/rates/luxury-car-tax-rate-and-thresholds/

Although being a leftard government, they are always looking for new ways to gouge and tax more.

Spot on ! The LCT Threshold should normally increase in line with (6.1% CPI) Inflation, however as you correctly indicate, Leftist Governments are always looking to exploit and gouge Tax opportunities (especially in areas they ideologically dislike - like Cars) - so don't hold your breath !

 

[Stevefreestyle]

[rant]
I unsubscribed and stopped watching that guy just recently.
Since he went full-time Youtuber, the number of ads within any of his videos has become unbearable.
If it's a 10 minute video, it takes him 5 minutes to get to the actual topic of the video.
He is just dragging out the view hours and bleeding the life out of everything.
It's so obvious, and so sad at the same time.
There are other channels that are more informative, more to the point, and can actually edit so it's watchable.
It beggars belief he was chosen to be up on stage of the reveal.
[/rant]

Yes I agree 100% He is Painfully verbose and a narcissistic exhibitionist, and I usually skip him, however the headline got me sucked in on that occasion.

 

[Stevefreestyle]

I just compiled a technical comparison chart from some of what info we currently know - for the S650 / MY24 GT (sorry not the Dark Horse)

Mustang GT – PP1 (Australia)	MY 21.5 (Gen 3 Coyote)	MY 22 (Gen 3 Coyote)	MY 24 GT (Gen 4 Coyote)
Power	339Kw / 556 Nm	339Kw / 556 Nm	358 Kw + ??
Brake Rotors - Front	380 mm x 34 mm vented disc Brembo six-piston 36 mm fixed aluminum calipers	380 mm x 34 mm vented disc Brembo six-piston 36 mm fixed aluminum calipers	390 x 36 mm vented discs, Brembo six-piston 36 mm fixed aluminum calipers
Brake Rotors - Rear	320 mm x 25 mm vented disc, single-piston 45 mm floating aluminum calipers	320 mm x 25 mm vented disc, single-piston 45 mm floating aluminum calipers	355 x 28 mm vented discs, four-piston (Brembo??) 30 mm fixed aluminum calipers
Brake Swept Area – Front -- Rear	669.39 sq. cm./plate 387.64 sq. cm./plate	669.39 sq. cm./plate 387.64 sq. cm./plate	768 sq. cm/plate (+14.73%) 523 sq. cm/plat (+ 34.92%)
Stabiliser Bars	32 mm front x 22.2 mm rear	32 mm front x 22.2 mm rear	33.3 mm front x 24 mm rear
Steering Ratio	16:1	16:1	15.5:1 (Quicker & Sharper)
Throttle Body / Air Intake	Single 80mm	Single 80mm	Dual 80mm Throttle Bodies & Air Intakes
Valve Dia / Lift	Intake, 37.7 mm/13 mm; exhaust, 32.0 mm/13 mm	Intake, 37.7 mm/13 mm; exhaust, 32.0 mm/13 mm

 

[Stevefreestyle]

Three weeks ago, I walked into my local dealer and placed a deposit to get myself in the line for the new model. They made up a dummy invoice/contract until details are released. I'm first on their list. I have bought a few cars there, so I have no problem putting money down without knowing exact specs and prices.

I decided to stay with a GT Hardtop. While I would love a Darkhorse, I think price of those is going to shock a lot of people. I would not be surprised to see prices north of $110,000. That's just not the sort of money I want to spend on a Ford. A Jaguar F-Type maybe, certainly not a Ford.

This time I want to go with the 10-speed, most likely will be Race Red again, or maybe Atlas Blue.

I'm both excited and sad about this. Excited for a new Mustang experience, sad because it will mean saying goodby to a very special car. As it stands, I will have another 12-18 months to enjoy my S550. If I change my mind later on, then so be it.

Funniest part of placing an order for a car that doesn't even exist and is nearly two years away

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