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Just read that also. No way the Z28 comes close to the R for driving enjoyment and lap times, at least the current one. The next one however who knows.

I still don't think there's going to be another Z28. I think they'll try to make the new ZL1 the all around car, replacing the old ZL1 and Z28. I see no future for a large displacement and/or high power NA GM engine.
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I still don't think there's going to be another Z28. I think they'll try to make the new ZL1 the all around car, replacing the old ZL1 and Z28. I see no future for a large displacement and/or high power NA GM engine.
Unless they employ force induction, GM has to use displacement to keep up with the little 5.2. It's sad how all these years GM has been having to fight 4.6's and 5.0's and 5.4's with all the displacement they use. That's not saying much for efficiency but as the guys said in the 70's there's no match for displacement.
 

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One thing I forgot to add...

GT350TP - $57K
GT350R - $64K
Z/28 - $75K (now heavily reduced)

For the $18K in disparity between MSRP for the TP vs Z, you could fine tune it a little and still come out way ahead.
 

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I'll be happily surprised if the R comes in night and day above the Z28 in terms of performance. It could happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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I'll be happily surprised if the R comes in night and day above the Z28 in terms of performance. It could happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
All it matters is that it come within 1/10th of a 991 GT3 [emoji3]
 
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All it matters is that it come within 1/10th of a 991 GT3 [emoji3]
Not really, because faster camaro's are on their way. Same ls7 in a lighter six gen camaro would be deadly. If gt350 or 350r can't surpass fifth gen z28 after all this, then it is a total epic fail on Fords part. There is no way out of this!
 

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Not really, because faster camaro's are on their way. Same ls7 in a lighter six gen camaro would be deadly. If gt350 or 350r can't surpass fifth gen z28 after all this, then it is a total epic fail on Fords part. There is no way out of this!
Uh oh. Did you just say that out loud?
 

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Not really, because faster camaro's are on their way. Same ls7 in a lighter six gen camaro would be deadly. If gt350 or 350r can't surpass fifth gen z28 after all this, then it is a total epic fail on Fords part. There is no way out of this!

They won't be putting the LS7 in anything else. It's going away for good for 2016, thanks to emissions. I hate that, as the LS7 is one of my favorite engines ever. GM scrapped plans for a new 7.0 replacement and went with the supercharger for the LT4 in the C7 Z06. That's why I don't see a new Z28 in GM's future.
 

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Not really, because faster camaro's are on their way. Same ls7 in a lighter six gen camaro would be deadly. If gt350 or 350r can't surpass fifth gen z28 after all this, then it is a total epic fail on Fords part. There is no way out of this!
I, for one, couldn't care less if a Camaro came out with 1k hp and all wheel drive and a carbon chassis... As long as the gt350 gives a current model porsche a run for its money.
 

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Ls7 was an example ofcourse its going forever but think about the outcome if it had stayed! The six gen camaro already proved that is improved a lot, what would mustang community think if the gt350 can't even surpass the old z28?
 
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I, for one, couldn't care less if a Camaro came out with 1k hp and all wheel drive and a carbon chassis... As long as the gt350 gives a current model porsche a run for its money.
Then you are in the wrong thread bud, look at the title. It doesn't say Porsche does it?
 

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Ls7 was an example ofcourse its going forever but think about the outcome if it had stayed! The six gen camaro already proved that is improved a lot, what would mustang community would think if the gt350 can't even surpass the old z28?

It may be a crappy way to look at it, but the old Z28 won't pass the emissions goals that the GT350 does either. As emissions rules get tougher to adhere to, it's going to get tougher to build NA performance motors. I'm amazed that they even made the Voodoo happen.
 

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It may be a crappy way to look at it, but the old Z28 won't pass the emissions goals that the GT350 does either. As emissions rules get tougher to adhere to, it's going to get tougher to build NA performance motors. I'm amazed that they even made the Voodoo happen.
But aren't those rules as an aggregate? Across all vehicles Ford produces?

I dont know, thats why I am asking, but thats how I always understood it. So in the case of a manufacturer that sells as many cars as Ford does…a limited run vehicle should be relatively easy to do.
 

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But aren't those rules as an aggregate? Across all vehicles Ford produces?



I dont know, thats why I am asking, but thats how I always understood it. So in the case of a manufacturer that sells as many cars as Ford does…a limited run vehicle should be relatively easy to do.

I believe that applies more to gas mileage. Emission toxins have to be under a certain level no matter what.
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