2020 GT500 Curb Weight and Dimensions Released

[MaskedRacerX]

They can offset the price by making the LT5 available in multiple vehicles. I'd put them in cadillac sedans and their SUVs. Redesign the Silverado and bring back their 454 SS, powered by lt5 as well.
Ball is in GMs court now. Sucks that they are killing the brand again. This might bring stagnant improvement to the mustang line.

I don't think anything like the LT5 is on the Caddy roadmap, they seem to be all in on the smaller displacement TT V8s (and that's a ton of HP for that product line given the demographics of their buyers).

LT5 in a full sized truck sounds awesome

I do believe it will end up being $10K more than the current ZL1 1LE... so probably $79-$82K is realistic. Look, they can't sell the current one... it won't make sense... but the motor is developed.. the car has more cooling than the corvette already... so I think they can do it for $5K or so more... and charge $10K or more... we'll see. ;)

Yeah, that's in the ballpark of what I was saying, though I started with the base ZL1 and added more - the 1LE is probably more like what a "base" LT5 powered Camaro would be like (though there's still the "livability" aspect of the suspension setup).

Pure financial assessment, no way, __but__ if they want to follow the enthusiasts in the company, do something cool, create a killer "halo" Camaro, respond to the GT500 ... maybe.

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[martinjlm]

Car and Driver has 3.8 seconds 0-60 for the GT PP1 A10, and 3.9 for the SS A10. Best magazine corrected published 1/4 is GT PP1 A10: 12.1 @ 120 mph (C&D), SS A10: 12.2 @ 118 mph (C&D). Motor Trend has the GT PP1 A10 12.1 @ 118.8 mph and the SS A10 at 12.4 @ 115.8 mph.

The thing is, we are talking the GT PP1 A10. GTs that are NOT that tend to be slower than SS, especially the M6, PP1 or not. Most GTs found on dealer lots are NOT PP1 or 10AT, let alone both. No doubt, the GT PP1 A10 ( we call it GT* on C6G) is awesome, and given drivers of similar skill will win most drags with an SS. But other configurations of GT are likely to come up short.

 

[martinjlm]

I have read where the Escalade is getting the LT4

More likely than the LT5, but also still just a rumor. Personally I think that Escalade is more likely to get the Blackwing. It is, after all, a Cadillac.

 

[martinjlm]

Yes, the BlackWing will be in the Corvette no matter what lies Cadillac and GM say to throw everyone off. It is the logical choice to go TT from now on.

I’d be almost willing to bet you pinks on that one. Taint happenin’. Corvette will go TT. It just won’t be Blackwing.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

The thing is, we are talking the GT PP1 A10. GTs that are NOT that tend to be slower than SS, especially the M6, PP1 or not. Most GTs found on dealer lots are NOT PP1 or 10AT, let alone both. No doubt, the GT PP1 A10 ( we call it GT* on C6G) is awesome, and given drivers of similar skill will win most drags with an SS. But other configurations of GT are likely to come up short.

Yes, I'm aware as we've discussed on C6G many times as well. As you know I have the '18 GT*. I think the best 6th gen SS M6 1/4 time is 0.2 seconds better than the best '18+ GT M6 time, IIRC. To me, that means the gear ratio selection of the SS M6 is better than the GT M6. Both M6s have the same 1.00 4th gear, but the GT starts much lower (3.24 vs 2.66), so the jump between gears is larger, putting the GT out of its powerband more often. Both are in 4th by the end of the 1/4 mile. Just my theory anyway.

 

[waterman]

I’d be almost willing to bet you pinks on that one. Taint happenin’. Corvette will go TT. It just won’t be Blackwing.

Competition breeds excellence and is the vehicle for the great renaissance of the American muscle/performance/sports car that we are all experiencing today... A great time for all enthusiasts regardless of brand loyalty.

I'm thinking (martinjim) that you know very well that TT will be the C8. In the form of an 4.2 ltr. TT 700+ HP ultra light weight DOHC LT7, with an appropriately power rated Tremec 8 speed DCT. LT7 will power the next iteration of the Z06/ZR1. I'm thinking that LT5 along with an Alpha II platform may be available for Camaro ,if the brand survives.

Fan boys may rejoice, but given the potential loss of another front engine, internal combustion powered American performance car, especially with EV and greater emission restrictions on the horizon... we all lose.

IMHO, Cadillac (as previously stated) will not share the Blackwing, but many bottom end and intake components will be shared with the LT7. Making the shared parts cost effective for GM. Corvette will never die. Though eventually it may be sporting 1000 lb. batteries.

My apologies for drifting of topic...4200 lbs. is a very big girl. I was shocked by that number.

Let the hate fest begin.

 

[roygriffin2020]

More likely than the LT5, but also still just a rumor. Personally I think that Escalade is more likely to get the Blackwing. It is, after all, a Cadillac.

Nope, I misspoke. I meant the fat look alike Suburban not the CrapAlac.

 

[V00D00]

I'm a realist, look at fastest laps and report back back what heavy car runs what time, then compare that to the lighter cars.

You can also compare a c6z vs a gt350r. 500lb weight difference, 10 year newer technology, still can beat a z06.

can you tell me what order these cars are in, in terms of lap times?
2018 Chevrolet Camaro weight by trims Curb weight Gross weight
1LT 2dr Coupe 3339 lbs. (1514 kg) –
1LS 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
2LT 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
1LT 2dr Convertible 3627 lbs. (1645 kg) –
2LT 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
1LS 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
2SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
1SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
ZL1 2dr Coupe 3883 lbs. (1761 kg) –

 

[FastCarFanBoy]

can you tell me what order these cars are in, in terms of lap times?
2018 Chevrolet Camaro weight by trims Curb weight Gross weight
1LT 2dr Coupe 3339 lbs. (1514 kg) –
1LS 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
2LT 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
1LT 2dr Convertible 3627 lbs. (1645 kg) –
2LT 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
1LS 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
2SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
1SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
ZL1 2dr Coupe 3883 lbs. (1761 kg) –
2SS 2dr Convertible 3956 lbs. (1794 kg) –
1SS 2dr Convertible 3956 lbs. (1794 kg) –
ZL1 2dr Convertible 4113 lbs. (1865 kg)

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I am 100% positive the fastest one does not weigh 4113 lbs and it does not carry more speed through a corner than the 3883lb version.

 

[roygriffin2020]

can you tell me what order these cars are in, in terms of lap times?
2018 Chevrolet Camaro weight by trims Curb weight Gross weight
1LT 2dr Coupe 3339 lbs. (1514 kg) –
1LS 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
2LT 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs. (1521 kg) –
1LT 2dr Convertible 3627 lbs. (1645 kg) –
2LT 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
1LS 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs. (1654 kg) –
2SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
1SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs. (1671 kg) –
ZL1 2dr Coupe 3883 lbs. (1761 kg) –
2SS 2dr Convertible 3956 lbs. (1794 kg) –
1SS 2dr Convertible 3956 lbs. (1794 kg) –
ZL1 2dr Convertible 4113 lbs. (1865 kg)

I am popping some popcorn. Who likes extra butter?

 

[Tomster]

I am popping some popcorn. Who likes extra butter?

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[roygriffin2020]

What is that supposed to mean?

Means waiting on responses. I could not find the popcorn emoji

 

[Tomster]

They don't have any overzealous extra butter emoji either.

 

[V00D00]

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I am 100% positive the fastest one does not weigh 4113 lbs and it does not carry more speed through a corner than the 3883lb version.

i should have not put the verts in there to keep things simple and comparative . Just to be clear, you have nothing beneficial to add to the conversation since you are unwilling to intelligently dissect the data, yes?

rephrased

can you tell me what order these cars are in, in terms of lap times?
2018 Chevrolet Camaro Curb weight by trims

1LT 2dr Coupe 3339 lbs.

1LS 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs.

2LT 2dr Coupe 3354 lbs.

1LT 2dr Convertible 3627 lbs.

2LT 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs.

1LS 2dr Convertible 3647 lbs.

2SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs.

1SS 2dr Coupe 3685 lbs.

ZL1 2dr Coupe 3883 lbs.

 

[martinjlm]

I have read where the Escalade is getting the LT4

More likely than the LT5, but also still just a rumor. Personally I think that Escalade is more likely to get the Blackwing. It is, after all, a Cadillac.

Nope, I misspoke. I meant the fat look alike Suburban not the CrapAlac.

Just trying to follow your logic here. Are you saying you are hearing Suburban may be getting LT4? If so, yes I’ve heard that one too. It’s possible, but I doubt it. But if that were to happen, that would be a lock for Escalade getting Blackwing. That would differentiate it from the Suburban, if the Suburban got an LT4.

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