2018 + rumor mill... let's hear it!

[ohtobbad]

Don't believe what any dealer tells you about future production. They have no idea. Their only knowledge is sales. Not production numbers.

I tend to agree, my dealer gets a hold of me any time they want to know about something on the 350. They know next to nothing.

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[Shift]

Don't believe what any dealer tells you about future production. They have no idea. Their only knowledge is sales. Not production numbers.

Wasn't it a well known dealer salesman that first said 5000/500 production numbers, and the post was shortly deleted. If he also mentioned a 5 year run, it might have some truth to it.

 

[OW_GT350R]

Wasn't it a well known dealer salesman that first said 5000/500 production numbers, and the post was shortly deleted. If he also mentioned a 5 year run, it might have some truth to it.

Yeah, and with them stating there will now likely be a MY18, I think he will be proven correct. Just not sure what the actual numbers of the 18 and 19 MY runs will be. Pretty much cemented that there will be cars produced in 18, regardless of what many here post.

 

[Donkey]

I feel like the block and heads will carry over into another model. Likely with forced induction. Brakes, suspension and such carry over also.

 

[machsmith]

How about one of these models in no given order!

Boss 351
Boss 429
Fairlane GT
Fairlane Cobra
Torino GT
Torino Talladega
Torino SCJ Cobra
Mustang III

;)

I wouldnt be suprised to see a Torino GT or another Boss, but am thinking we wont see anything larger than the 315. That 5.2 CPC crate motor makes around 550 HP. Would be nice to have around 600 ;)...to get a bit of an advantage of the chevy

 

[Soho]

All I know for sure is that if I was a dealer getting over MSRP for a limited car I wouldn't challenge the limited statues unless I had to. It's definitely the last year they will make this car now give me 10k over MSRP.

 

[Darkane]

I wouldnt be suprised to see a Torino GT or another Boss, but am thinking we wont see anything larger than the 315. That 5.2 CPC crate motor makes around 550 HP. Would be nice to have around 600 ;)...to get a bit of an advantage of the chevy

Not possible. Ford CAN NOT develop a CPC engine with 550hp and be emissions and MPG compliant.

In fact they had to go FPC to produce the 526hp. With direct injection the game changes some. The 500hp coyote that cosworth is building is going to be the next special engine.

 

[Spectre]

I'm slowly wearing my better half down on getting a 2017 ("but we just got the Porsche last year!!", but here's why *I* think there will be a 2018 GT350:

Ford hasn't said otherwise.

Think about it. If Ford wanted to officially state "GT350 production will end in xxxx", they lose nothing, and they please their dealer network something fierce because now they have something official to hang over the heads of potential buyers so they can continue with ADM. Ford made that announcement with the Boss 302. They never did it with the GT500 because well, it never did end (during the S197 era).

However the opposite isn't true. If Ford came out and said "we're going to make this car for another X years", then they've potentially screwed over their dealer network from additional profits. Ford keeping quiet is their way of throwing a bone to the dealers.

I honestly think silence means production will continue until Ford makes an official announcement otherwise.

 

[PP0001]

I'm slowly wearing my better half down on getting a 2017 ("but we just got the Porsche last year!!", but here's why *I* think there will be a 2018 GT350:

Ford hasn't said otherwise.

Think about it. If Ford wanted to officially state "GT350 production will end in xxxx", they lose nothing, and they please their dealer network something fierce because now they have something official to hang over the heads of potential buyers so they can continue with ADM. Ford made that announcement with the Boss 302. They never did it with the GT500 because well, it never did end (during the S197 era).

However the opposite isn't true. If Ford came out and said "we're going to make this car for another X years", then they've potentially screwed over their dealer network from additional profits. Ford keeping quiet is their way of throwing a bone to the dealers.

I honestly think silence means production will continue until Ford makes an official announcement otherwise.

It is really interesting how many of you come up with your theories with respect to the number of production years for the new GT350/GT350R and/or new models that Ford will produce over the next 5 years.

Ford has not even produced a 2017 GT350/GT350R as of yet and because a well known dealer salesman makes a statement about 2018 and 2019 production for the GT350 we are supposed to accept that as gospel truth?:eyebulge:

As far as Ford making an official announcement about the future of the GT350/GT350R has Ford made an official announcement for the GT500, Mach 1, GT500K and many of the other new upcoming models? Not that I have seen.

Most of us know that the original Boss 302 program back in 1969 and 1970 was originally a 2 year program so Ford decided to let everyone know about the new 2012/2013 Boss 302 program would last only 2 years but that has nothing to do with the new GT350 program.

I am not trying to deny nor confirm what Ford plans are to do with the current Shelby GT350 program but for any of you to suggest that there will be 2018 and 2019 GT350 model without any facts or backup documentation especially when the 2017's have not even come out yet does not make common sense and is pure conjecture.

As far as ADM's and Ford hanging something over their dealership heads I have to admit you lost me somewhere along the way?

Do you really think that ADM's would have gone away for the GT350/GT350R's regardless of what Ford announced as far as confirmed production years?

Unless you have some sort of official statement from a significant Ford official everything that you are suggesting is pure conjecture otherwise you have no more idea than the rest of us.

Lastly, based on your post is it your wife or you that thinks you should buy a 2017 model or should wait for a 2018 model?

It looks like you are suggesting to buy a 2017 model and then suggesting there will be a 2018 model or am I just confused by your post?

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[Hack]

Dealers had to pay to get allocations for 2016 and 2017. I would assume a similar system would be used if there was an additional year of production. So, dealers could find out that way. However, I don't think that has happened. I think it would come up here and other places online if it had. Therefore I don't think anyone knows yet, other than possibly some people at Ford. I would think that there is a Chevy coming soon that will outperform the GT350. If I worked for Ford I would want to have something in my back pocket ready to kick butt on that new GM offering. I have no idea whether there will be additional years of GT350 production, but the reasons above are why I think it's more likely that the GT350 will only be produced through the 2017 model year.

 

[Dary]

Well, according to the UAW agreement document there will be an upgrade for the 5.2 engine. Would it be for an upgraded GT350?

 

[Spectre]

It is really interesting how many of you come up with your theories with respect to the number of production years for the new GT350/GT350R and/or new models that Ford will produce over the next 5 years.

Ford has not even produced a 2017 GT350/GT350R as of yet and because a well known dealer salesman makes a statement about 2018 and 2019 production for the GT350 we are supposed to accept that as gospel truth?:eyebulge:

As far as Ford making an official announcement about the future of the GT350/GT350R has Ford made an official announcement for the GT500, Mach 1, GT500K and many of the other new upcoming models? Not that I have seen.

Most of us know that the original Boss 302 program back in 1969 and 1970 was originally a 2 year program so Ford decided to let everyone know about the new 2012/2013 Boss 302 program would last only 2 years but that has nothing to do with the new GT350 program.

I am not trying to deny nor confirm what Ford plans are to do with the current Shelby GT350 program but for any of you to suggest that there will be 2018 and 2019 GT350 model without any facts or backup documentation especially when the 2017's have not even come out yet does not make common sense and is pure conjecture.

As far as ADM's and Ford hanging something over their dealership heads I have to admit you lost me somewhere along the way?

Do you really think that ADM's would have gone away for the GT350/GT350R's regardless of what Ford announced as far as confirmed production years?

Unless you have some sort of official statement from a significant Ford official everything that you are suggesting is pure conjecture otherwise you have no more idea than the rest of us.

Lastly, based on your post is it your wife or you that thinks you should buy a 2017 model or should wait for a 2018 model?

It looks like you are suggesting to buy a 2017 model and then suggesting there will be a 2018 model or am I just confused by your post?

:cheers:

:cheers: I'll try to clear up the confusion:

1. I am 50/50 on getting a 2017. My tinfoil hat theories re: 2018 genuinely aren't affected by my personal plan. If I don't get one, I don't get one. Such is life.

2. You are 100% correct that all I am offering is pure conjecture, and I said as much in my previous post (I.e., "here's why *I* think..."). This thread is all about opinions, and I am in no way going to misrepresent myself as having any inside knowledge.

3. Re: ADMs, history tells us that these usually fall by the wayside after the early adopters get theirs, as most other enthusiasts are happy to wait a few years (or buy one used) if they know that even the limited edition model is not subject to a short production run (see GT500, Hellcats). It is my opinion that ADMs on GT350s are so pervasive because of how well the belief (true or otherwise) has held that this car will only be produced for 2 years. Ford Motor Company has zero reason not to be forthright with their customer base re: production run, as they only stand to hurt themselves from not producing more cars they can sell. Dealers, however, stand to gain immensely from the continued popular belief that production will be limited to 2 cause then more people will be likely to pay above sticker. I can only think of one reason why Ford wouldn't simply come out and say what their goal for GT350 production is... the aforementioned willingness to play along with the wishes of the independent dealers who order their cars.

Again, just my 2 cents on an otherwise lazy Sunday. And they are Canadian cents at that, which means they're only worth about 1.5 cents US at the moment. :cheers:

 

[Voodooo]

Well, according to the UAW agreement document there will be an upgrade for the 5.2 engine. Would it be for an upgraded GT350?

Upgrade shumpgrade. They could change one minor part and say it's an upgrade for the UAW.

 

[Voodooo]

The dealers know noting. All they know is what we know. My dealer told me when I had my car ordered last year that I know more about the car then he and I've bought 9 cars from this same salesman. He's been at the same ford dealer for 21 years. More info is on the web then at the dealer. But don't believe everything you read on the web. I find it amusing that people think the gt350 will be out past 2017. By that time it'll already be 3 model years old and the competition will be newer and fresher. I know from a voodoo engineer that the flat plane crank is done once the gt350 is over. The block and heads will stay but the rest won't. So he said.

 

[Grunholle]

Well, according to the UAW agreement document there will be an upgrade for the 5.2 engine. Would it be for an upgraded GT350?

As people speculated, and what I would agree with, that "upgrade" would be 5.2 variation with forced induction destined for the GT500.

Regarding why Ford wouldn't say how long a GT350 run would be, why should they? Better to keep silent and let the demand and speculation keep the desire and prices up. Say production will end at the end of the 2017MY, it won't hurt Ford one bit, the GT350 draw will remain high, resale will remain high and people will either pay to get into a car, put their name in (and raise awareness and demand in the process) for a future specialty model (GT500/BOSS/etc) or "settle" for a lesser model. This is a win/win/win for Ford and it's the same model of business that other sport car manufacturers have been using to great success over the years, Porsche is a prime example of this business model, take a look at what happened with the 911R.

If Ford announces a 2018 model run at this point (or god forbid a 2019) what does that do? Sure it will satisfy the masses that want the car at MSRP or under but it will also dilute the name and kill the allure making the car common place and not a "specialty" vehicle. Again, look at what Porsche did with the 911R's release, that car will always remain desirable because of it's unique equipment and limited numbers, not to mention that only 7 of them were made available to the US public after the US 918 VIP buyers had their fill. There are so many disgruntled Porschephiles out there who couldn't get their hands on a 911R but the vast majority of them will still continue to buy the 991.2GT3/GT3RS/GT2/GTSRS, 960/988, 919 and so on...

This is a place they want the R to live in and producing the 350/R for another two model years makes zero sense to that business model.

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