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The 2018 is popular because its like $200, if you want the MOST NA power you can possibly make, CJ is the only way to go, but its literally 10x the price of an '18 manifold.
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The 2018 is popular because its like $200, if you want the MOST NA power you can possibly make, CJ is the only way to go, but its literally 10x the price of an '18 manifold.

This.

Not only is cost a concern but fitment as well. A 2018 Manifold costs about the same as most cold air intakes, yet yields proven results. HP to Dollar it is the king right now for a mechanical piece.
 

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your missing the point
CJ > ALL only reason not to go with a CJ is because its cheaper.

People are complaining about the CJ dyno graph in this thread go look at other CJ dyno graphs we all know it pulls past 7500rpm. AED has proven the CJ over and over and over again even on the GT350s its better than a GT350 mani.

Ive never said the 18 mani is a bad piece but seriously I get a kick out of all the 2018 koolaid drinking when most people cant even get the IMRC to work properly or they delete them with the 2018 mani LOL. Deleting the IMRC is going to effect power down low but yet people complain the CJ loses hp down low too so thats pretty comical too.

Guess what mani has zero IMRC headaches or requires lockouts........

The CJ LOL!!

Yeah makes zero sense to me to use a mani people cant get the IMRC to work right then act like the 2018 is the holy grail mani.

Gotta pay to play especially if staying NA. CJ is theeeeeee baddest intake available for NA setups period.

If the CJ wasnt then why would Ford release a revised version that just has the minor logo change on the top.

Hmmm Ill go out on a limb and say its because A. Its the makes the most HP. B. it still sells well.
 

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CJ > ALL only reason not to go with a CJ is because its cheaper.

People are complaining about the CJ dyno graph in this thread go look at other CJ dyno graphs we all know it pulls past 7500rpm. AED has proven the CJ over and over and over again even on the GT350s its better than a GT350 mani.

Ive never said the 18 mani is a bad piece but seriously I get a kick out of all the 2018 koolaid drinking when most people cant even get the IMRC to work properly or they delete them with the 2018 mani LOL. Deleting the IMRC is going to effect power down low but yet people complain the CJ loses hp down low too so thats pretty comical too.

Guess what mani has zero IMRC headaches or requires lockouts........

The CJ LOL!!

Yeah makes zero sense to me to use a mani people cant get the IMRC to work right then act like the 2018 is the holy grail mani.

Gotta pay to play especially if staying NA. CJ is theeeeeee baddest intake available for NA setups period.

If the CJ wasnt then why would Ford release a revised version that just has the minor logo change on the top.

Hmmm Ill go out on a limb and say its because A. Its the makes the most HP. B. it still sells well.
Whats the deal with having to install an oil catch can setup?
 

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Whats the deal with having to install an oil catch can setup?
Says who? Some run a catch can, some run 2 breathers, some say its a scam.

I dont run any. But honestly havnt considered it much either.
 

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Impressive, but I can't run E85 and I prefer to retain my strut tower bracing.
 

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Says who? Some run a catch can, some run 2 breathers, some say its a scam.

I dont run any. But honestly havnt considered it much either.
I read an article that stated it, can't remember who, it was about a week ago and my old brain forgot. I was thinking why the hell would this be needed?? I haven't had to install one of those since the carburetor days when our valve covers either had block offs or breathers.
 

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Well the main reason people say they should run a catch can is the coyotes spin pretty high rpm and the intake is going to suck in some oil through the pcv.
 

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Why is a CJ flatlining at 6500?? Lack of tuning?
E85 on a N/A motor has a tendency to level off high RPM HP when compared to 93 octane or race fuel. Since E85 requires aprox 20% more fuel compared to pump gas there is less room for air during the combustion process, the higher the RPM the more air you need to continue making power. The higher the RPM the harder it is to move air from the intake into the combustion chamber and having a larger volume of that space filled with E85 makes it even harder to draw the air in.

E85 on N/A applications shows most of its gains in the low and mid RPM ranges and usually ends up making only minor gains at the top RPM ranges. On a boosted application the limitations of high RPM and E85 are overcome by the ability to force air into the chamber.

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Well the main reason people say they should run a catch can is the coyotes spin pretty high rpm and the intake is going to suck in some oil through the pcv.
What he said, ^

Track guys run both driver and passenger side catch cans, spending most of the time above 5500 rpm for a 20-30min track session and you will need catch cans. The other reason we use them is because of the design of the PCV system, having the PCV ports at the front of the head means under heavy braking events on track the oil in the heads pools at the front of the valve cover right at the PCV port on the valve cover. Dive on the brakes and get right back on the throttle and oil can be ingested through the intake if a catch can is not present.

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