2015-2016 Tech Pack and Base GT350 Cooler Solution Discussion

[Minn19]

I may not be brand loyal; but I may be a brand preferrer and mostly a brand avoider if the brand deserves it.

Good way to put it.

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[arsenalrocks]

called FP

the external pump solution will be coming "in the next month or so", also mentioned the track pack tranny is available now.

 

[Minn19]

called FP

the external pump solution will be coming "in the next month or so", also mentioned the track pack tranny is available now.

......"or so"...........

 

[GT_Dave]

Hey Dave,
Apologies for the impatience but were you able to do some digging for the differential harness? If so, what did or didn't you find?
Thanks, appreciate anything you can offer.

I had relatives come in from out of town last night, had to postpone my oil change until tonight.

 

[shelby24]

My point is that in stead of taking a little time and putting a package together that already has everything included, the best FP can do at this time is make available the parts. The customer has to figure everything else out.

This is non support at its worst. Ford should have never let the product out the door like this, and since they did they should come up with a fix that will satisfy the individuals who bought it. I not going to say it should be free to me, but Ford really shouldn't be profiting from a situation that they created either.

I think the biggest issue we are facing is there are not that many of us how many people are going to buy a trans cooler kit...a couple hundred?? Its basically only 2016 tech pac cars that want to use car at the track. Ford already fixed the problem for 2017 and some guys will fix there cars themselves. You know if we were talking about thousands or more people interested in the trans cooler Ford would have already had a solution. Like always it all comes down to the almighty $$$$$$$. :headbonk:

 

[lemers]

I think the biggest issue we are facing is there are not that many of us how many people are going to buy a trans cooler kit...a couple hundred?? Its basically only 2016 tech pac cars that want to use car at the track. Ford already fixed the problem for 2017 and some guys will fix there cars themselves. You know if we were talking about thousands or more people interested in the trans cooler Ford would have already had a solution. Like always it all comes down to the almighty $$$$$$$. :headbonk:

It should also come down to integrity. Ford knew there were heat issues but still released an option with inherent problems.

 

[shelby24]

It should also come down to integrity. Ford knew there were heat issues but still released an option with inherent problems.

I agree with u it should come down to integrity but unfortunately when dealing with big business integrity is not a word ford can spell or understand.
Ford probably already feels they covered there ass by adding those couple of words to the owners supplement" if u are going to track your tech cars u should add aftermarket trans/diff coolers first" a book nobody saw until they had already purchased there cars.

 

[lemers]

I agree with u it should come down to integrity but unfortunately when dealing with big business integrity is not a word ford can spell or understand.
Ford probably already feels they covered there ass by adding those couple of words to the owners supplement" if u are going to track your tech cars u should add aftermarket trans/diff coolers first" a book nobody saw until they had already purchased there cars.

If that is Ford's answer then I will fix the issue myself and I will add Ford to my "brands to avoid list".

I can only vote with my wallet.

 

[TRACK CRAZY GT350]

If that is Ford's answer then I will fix the issue myself and I will add Ford to my "brands to avoid list".

I can only vote with my wallet.

If Ford does not fix the tech trans we need to do more than avoid the brand. When all is said and done and Ford does not fix the problem we need to file a class action law suit.
:amen:

 

[JN66]

If Ford does not fix the tech trans we need to do more than avoid the brand. When all is said and done and Ford does not fix the problem we need to file a class action law suit.
:amen:

I am surprised this hasn't happened yet and that no one has pursued something like this.

There is enough marketing material and dangerous situations with cars shutting down on the highway, etc to warrant it.

 

[Essex Wire]

If Ford does not fix the tech trans we need to do more than avoid the brand. When all is said and done and Ford does not fix the problem we need to file a class action law suit.
:amen:[/QUOTE

You are absolutely correct. I think time has shown us that Ford is not going to step up with a reasonable solution. And, I'm sorry, but having to pay thousands of dollars for the cooler setup is not satisfactory.

Bottom line, Ford deliberately and knowingly misrepresented the GT350 in many of its marketing materials and ads. They promised, at a minimum, that the "GT350" -- WITHOUT LIMITING IT TO THE "TRACK" pkg or R -- was a track-capable car, when in it is not. These misrepresentations or omissions led to many, many sophisticated experienced performance car buyers buying the base or Tech versions believing, as I did, that of course the car could handle routine track days. The fact that Ford disclosed this limitation only deep in the middle of the owners manual proves only that it was well-aware of the problem before the cars went on sale but took no measures to disclose the defect. And, I'm sorry but it is obviously a product defect. There is no way on Earth Ford intended to build versions of its new landmark car that could not run on track. Ford's liability here is crystal clear. (I know, people will say if I wanted to track it I should have bought the "Track Pkg." Fine, we'll see how that nonsense will play in court. Many Mustangs can run on track wqithout a "track " pkg.)

I love my GT350 and have been lucky enough to have one without any other problems. But I'm sickened by the fact that I was deliberately misled and lied to by Ford and they are not willing to do anything to fix the problem.

I'm afraid that it's really become apparent that Ford will not offer a reasonable solution to the customers it misled without legal action. I was tempted to just give it up, sell mine at a loss and buy a 2017, if I could even find one, but I just couldn't swallow the fact that I'd also be out the $6K I paid in sales tax. I'm weighing my options.

 

[Secondtime]

Hopefully ford will do something like they did with some 99 Cobras where they were recalled for being short of the horsepower they advertised.

 

[firestarter2]

If Ford does not fix the tech trans we need to do more than avoid the brand. When all is said and done and Ford does not fix the problem we need to file a class action law suit.
:amen:[/QUOTE

You are absolutely correct. I think time has shown us that Ford is not going to step up with a reasonable solution. And, I'm sorry, but having to pay thousands of dollars for the cooler setup is not satisfactory.

Bottom line, Ford deliberately and knowingly misrepresented the GT350 in many of its marketing materials and ads. They promised, at a minimum, that the "GT350" -- WITHOUT LIMITING IT TO THE "TRACK" pkg or R -- was a track-capable car, when in it is not. These misrepresentations or omissions led to many, many sophisticated experienced performance car buyers buying the base or Tech versions believing, as I did, that of course the car could handle routine track days. The fact that Ford disclosed this limitation only deep in the middle of the owners manual proves only that it was well-aware of the problem before the cars went on sale but took no measures to disclose the defect. And, I'm sorry but it is obviously a product defect. There is no way on Earth Ford intended to build versions of its new landmark car that could not run on track. Ford's liability here is crystal clear. (I know, people will say if I wanted to track it I should have bought the "Track Pkg." Fine, we'll see how that nonsense will play in court. Many Mustangs can run on track wqithout a "track " pkg.)

I love my GT350 and have been lucky enough to have one without any other problems. But I'm sickened by the fact that I was deliberately misled and lied to by Ford and they are not willing to do anything to fix the problem.

I'm afraid that it's really become apparent that Ford will not offer a reasonable solution to the customers it misled without legal action. I was tempted to just give it up, sell mine at a loss and buy a 2017, if I could even find one, but I just couldn't swallow the fact that I'd also be out the $6K I paid in sales tax. I'm weighing my options.

Since Ford had a R and a track model I don't think your logic holds water. Maybe of the track didn't exist..

 

[Hack]

Since Ford had a R and a track model I don't think your logic holds water. Maybe of the track didn't exist..

Logic would say that the most track capable Mustang ever would be more capable than a Mustang GT.

The R and track models are "all day track cars". I don't need an all day track car. My sessions have only been 25 minutes at a time and in relatively cool temperatures.

And my car hit limp mode on the way home from work earlier this week. Did I need to buy the track model in order to safely make it home from work?

:tsk:

 

[GT_Dave]

Hey Dave,
Apologies for the impatience but were you able to do some digging for the differential harness? If so, what did or didn't you find?
Thanks, appreciate anything you can offer.

Tonight I checked for an available connection for the differential temperature sensor on the existing wire harness while I was changing my oil. Sorry to report there is nothing I could find that would accomodate a sensor plugin. Need to find some wiring diagrams for the GT350 and start there. I'll just stick with my Glowshift differential temperature gauge that I installed.
I still have to say that this car is the worst out of any car I have owned for changing oil and keeping that whole process neat. Everything wants to come out sideways.

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