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So I had a chance to stop in at the local Chevy dealer just to take a gander at the 2016 convertible to compare to my 2015 GT convertible. The salesman that (finally) came out was very nice and polite, though neither of us could figure out how to use the key fob to lower the top, and there is a strange toggle switch thing to operate the back windows.

First of all, the look of the car is growing on me a bit, still not anywhere near my GT, but it is reasonably nice from certain angles. The top is WAY lower than the GT. Tried shoe-horning myself in the back seat just to compare to the GT convertible and Camaro hardtop. In my convertible I can sit in the back seat reasonably well with the top up. Sitting tall I can feel the top against my hair but that is it, and I am 5'11". In the Camaro the roof line was about in the middle of my ears I would guess.

To the good, it is comfortable in the driving position but for me the seat was a little close to the floorboards, felt very Corvette like. Sight lines were OK, but there is no way that I would be able to see a car in the passenger side blind spot with the top up. I have no problem with that in the Mustang. The solid tonneu cover looks nice with the top down, very clean lines.

Now to the almost unforgivably bad. The trunk is cartoonishly small. I mean, really really small! It operates like a hard top convertible, where the top takes up about 2/3 of the trunk when open. So you get the drawback of the hard top convertible (no trunk) with none of the benefit of safety and quiet (aside from the clean look when down). Secondly, when the top engages, the back flips up (there is a membrane like fabric barrier that extends forward to the hinge line) when engaging. When the Tonneu cover lifts, the contents of the trunk are literally open to the elements. Which means if you open the top while driving (<30MPH as advertised) and had any papers or anything in the trunk, they would blow away. In this instance it had rained before I got there and water had settled on the back, which poured into the trunk when the top started to engage. I can also envision debris getting trapped under the folding flap which would cause leaking into the trunk or rear seats. Looks nice when up, but with drawbacks.

Overall, I was not expecting to love it or hate it, but after looking there would be no way that I would consider it. trunk is horribly small, and the mechanisms have way too many drawbacks.

Although the salesman was very nice, he was a bit disingenuous. I asked him if they were getting a lot of interest in them, to which he replied "Oh yeah! We cannot keep them on the lots!!! We must have sold 20 last weekend alone!" Yeah, right.:lol::lol: The entertaining part is that as I was getting ready to leave he asked me "what are you driving now" and I pointed to my Mustang parked down the row. He came and looked (I showed him the advantages, "Hey I can actually put stuff in the trunk! I can sit in the back seat without leg and head amputations"). He was very complimentary on it, and said that he actually loved the new Mustangs. Then he asked me how much I paid, if I did not mind sharing. Told him I paid just over $41k a year ago (retail at just over $44k) to which he flipped out!!! His words were "Really! That Camaro is $53k! This is $10,000 less!?!?" After polite thank yous, he was shaking his head and walked away.

I think I definitively know why Ford is selling so many more Mustangs than Chevy is Camaros. It is the rental fleets.... :)
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Holy smokes.

I liked how the tonneau cleans up the rear deck, and kind of sort of thought the top operation was neat at speeds, but it appears to be a clusterfuck of a design.

Just yesterday I was talking to a good friend about the E9x M3 cab, and as one of the downsides, I mentioned how I dislike convertibles that have trunk space that varies based on the top position. Just like my S2K, my GT has X space up and X space down - no moving things in/out of back seats, or not being able to drop the top when I want.

Plus, the top of the GT convertible, has that hard shell in the front that nicely finishes up the top when it's down.

I paid ~$42K for my '16 GT, GTPP, ACC, Sync3, Shaker 12 speaker, heated/cooled seats, BLIS, with a Premier Redline interior.
 

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I'm currently in Tomball TX. I saw a new Camaro SS Vert today. I have to say it looks nice on the street.

I was expecting there would be issues with that top design last year when I saw it. No way could I give up that much space in the trunk. I actually use my car. If it were just for Drags or show then trunk size wouldn't be an issue.
My big fear for the owners of that car is they will actually try to operate the top at 30mph. That feature is a solution for a problem no one has, IMHO.
 
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I'm currently in Tomball TX. I saw a new Camaro SS Vert today. I have to say it looks nice on the street.

I was expecting there would be issues with that top design last year when I saw it. No way could I give up that much space in the trunk. I actually use my car. If it were just for Drags or show then trunk size wouldn't be an issue.
My big fear for the owners of that car is they will actually try to operate the top at 30mph. That feature is a solution for a problem no one has, IMHO.
Yeah, that was my thought as well. I use my convertible day to day. When I showed the guy my trunk I had my work bag, coat, lunch box and set of golf clubs in there. Heck, we have fit 4 sets of golf clubs in my trunk, 2 adult and 2 kids!

I also agree with the 30MPH operation. At work we call that a solution that is searching for a problem!
 
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Holy smokes.

I liked how the tonneau cleans up the rear deck, and kind of sort of thought the top operation was neat at speeds, but it appears to be a clusterfuck of a design.
This, in not so many words, was what I was thinking. Looks good when down. But once you start digging you end up scratching your head... maybe they are hoping people will just shell out the cool 50+ grand without actually looking it over and trying it out? :headbonk:
 

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Sometimes the simplest design is the best.
I agree the top on the Camaro has always been more complicated and taking up a lot more trunk space and it takes forever to put the top up and down.
 

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Heck, we have fit 4 sets of golf clubs in my trunk, 2 adult and 2 kids!
I can see putting kids in the trunk, it's like a magical cave, but I'm surprised the adults were OK with it ...

:D

Yeah, we (the three of us) were headed down to Universal, had a huge roller, a smaller roller, my little G's school backpack, her park pack and a roller cooler, in the trunk, top up. After our refuel / bathroom stop just outside Daytona, decided to put the top down (back in March, the weather was amazing). Didn't have to think about if a Hello Kitty backpack was going to get crushed, or a top was going be damaged, one latch, 20 seconds, *boom*, back on the road with the top down.

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I just saw a Convertible today. I think the front of the Camaro looks great but everything else just is blahh..


But OMG that top operation is horrible. Leave it too GM for their great idea's. lol
 
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I can see putting kids in the trunk, it's like a magical cave, but I'm surprised the adults were OK with it ...

:D

...

:cheers:
Well played Masked, well played... :D
 

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I just can't get over the SS prices. Had a coworker looking at them the other day. She said the cheapest SS they had on the lot was $49,000!!! In 2013, I shopped for V6 models of Mustang and Camaro and it was the opposite. Camaro was way cheaper and I got a 2013 V6 LS. Fast forward to 2 months ago.. I got a base GT for 29K.. Cheapest SS I could find was mid 40's... Camaro is pricing itself out of the market.
 

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I traded in my 2012 for the 2016. The only thing i dont like is the storage bin between the seats - it doesnt have much function and there needs to be some better form of interior storage bins. Otherwise, its so much of an improvement, it aint funny. Our kids are both in the military, so i dont put much in the trunk. With the top down, the divider holds groceries perfectly & keeps them from moving around. The hard tonneau is awesome - the mustang would look even greater with a hard cover system of some sort. As far as water getting inside the trunk....after washing it or after it rains, just drive for a minute to get rid of the water on the back deck. Its great to be able to put the top back up when driving & im almost at work/home; i hate sitting in a parking lot or the garage putting the top up.
 
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I traded in my 2012 for the 2016. The only thing i dont like is the storage bin between the seats - it doesnt have much function and there needs to be some better form of interior storage bins. Otherwise, its so much of an improvement, it aint funny. Our kids are both in the military, so i dont put much in the trunk. With the top down, the divider holds groceries perfectly & keeps them from moving around. The hard tonneau is awesome - the mustang would look even greater with a hard cover system of some sort. As far as water getting inside the trunk....after washing it or after it rains, just drive for a minute to get rid of the water on the back deck. Its great to be able to put the top back up when driving & im almost at work/home; i hate sitting in a parking lot or the garage putting the top up.
On the wrong form aren't you I don't give a rats ass about the camaro
 

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So I had a chance to stop in at the local Chevy dealer just to take a gander at the 2016 convertible to compare to my 2015 GT convertible.
Thanks for saving me a trip... I don't even bother to look at it.

That is crazy... :doh:
 

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Perhaps you have stumbled into the wrong thread?

I for one like hearing people's opinions on both cars, even when some of them are wrong. :D

-T

[MENTION=7132]Trackaholic[/MENTION]....thank you sir.
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