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FFTEC MAX Stage 4 install and impressions

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Alright guys, I said I'd do a review once I had everything installed so here goes.

The parts that come with the kit from FFTEC -

Cobb Accessport
Intake
Charge pipes
Intercooler (EcoEconomy core or EcoPro core)

I talked back and forth with Mike at FFTEC over the course of a couple days and after having all my questions answered I decided to order their "stage 4" kit with the EcoPro IC. Mike was really helpful and when I called to order I also spoke with Anthony about the tunes and he was able to answer all my questions as well. Ordering process completely smooth.

It took about a week for everything to be shipped because some of the parts still needed to come back from coating, but no big deal for me. When everything showed up UPS had beat the box up a bit, but inside everything was fine. Main thing I learned when I looked through the box was that there were no instructions. I asked Mike about it and found out they don't have instructions made up for the installation, but if I had any questions about the install I could call the shop. It was a slight disappointment, but I've turned wrenches on cars enough in my life that I wasn't that worried about it.

It took me two weekends to install everything because I just didn't have the time to get everything installed all at once. The first weekend I installed the intake, AP, and the turbo outlet charge pipe. The install for these parts is pretty easy. I was able to install everything from the top of the car, although I should have waited on the turbo outlet charge pipe because it would have been so much easier if I could have reached the clamps from under the car. I drove the car for a week in this state and with the Cobb OTS stage 1 tune. Huge improvement over stock for performance and the intake sounds really cool to me.

Fast forward to today and I installed the IC and throttlebody charge pipe. I used the instructions for the Lethal Performance grill delete to remove the bumper and once that was off it was mostly straight forward. I removed the entire grill shutter assembly, top and bottom, if you only want to remove the bottom you can probably retain the top, but you will have to cut the assembly up because it's all one piece. You will also need to cut some plastic air dams in order for the IC to fit, there will be a picture below showing what needs to be cut. Pay attention when you install the IC, there's a trick to it that's somewhat hard to explain. You install it from the bottom and you need to start with the IC over towards the driver's side of the car and move up and then toward the passenger side in order to clear everything. You should not have to tilt the IC back and forth to get it in. I learned the trick the hard way and banged up my AC condenser a little bit trying to figure out how to get the IC in place. It's not serious damage, I carefully bent most of the fins back out and you can't see it once the IC is in place. The other charge pipe went in with no trouble. The main thing to remember is take your time and don't rush. I tried to get everything done while my baby was sleeping and got impatient that's why I messed up my AC condenser.

Once everything was buttoned back up and night time rolled around I went out to the highway to datalog a few 3rd gear pulls and see how the new IC holds up. I really should have got some logs with the stock IC to compare the numbers to, but it wouldn't really be a good comparison anyway because the temperature has been changing way too much lately.

How did it do? Ambient temp outside was 57 degrees (the car showed 62 for the intake air temp) for all my runs. The first one showed a starting charge temp of 64.9 degrees and ended at 66.1 degrees. The second pull started at 71 (I got off the highway at a rest stop waiting for traffic to clear so the temp started going up a little) and actually decreased to 66.8 before ending the run at 71.9.

Gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the initial tests. As of now I've sent my logs off to Anthony and he's tweaking my tune so I won't be using the generic stage one map. I'll make sure to update the thread with new results. Overall there were a few hiccups with the install but everything turned out great so far and I'm completely happy with the decision to go with FFTEC. Down the road I plan to upgrade the turbo and I'll definitely be checking out what FFTEC has to offer!

And now on to some pictures:




First up is a comparison of the stock IC vs the FFTEC EcoPro, big size difference and makes it easy to see why you have to remove the bumper and grill shutters.



Just a shot of the weld work on the IC, everything FFTEC sent me looks really high quality, can't complain about the fit or finish of anything in the kit.



Here is a picture of the IC actually bolted onto the car. Note: you can install everything without raising the car off the ground at all but it would be a lot easier if you did, I'm just hard headed.
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Grill shutter assembly, you can see why and where you would need to cut in order to retain the top shutters. I just ditched the whole thing and taped the connector up. No CEL with the assembly disconnected.



Here is a picture of what needs to be trimmed to make clearance for the IC to fit. No way around it.



And finally the damage I caused to my AC condenser before I did any kind of repair to it. Seriously, take your time putting the IC in. It will fit easily without any force if you put it in right.

Well guys, that's it. If you have any questions let me know, probably forgetting some stuff. I want to say thanks to Mike and Anthony at FFTEC and I look forward to more future upgrades from the shop!
 
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Nice writeup:thumbsup:do you have a pic of intercooler with the front bumper installed? I look forward to hearing how the tune is with the new mods.
 

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I'll take a picture tomorrow of the front, you can see the IC in there, but honestly not that noticeable with the stock grill.
 

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Awesome! Thank you for the write up and honest review!

We WILL be adding instructions with our kits going forth to aid in eliminating future hiccups with installation!

I'll get back with you in a day or so with some mapping updates!

Check your email!

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Awesome write up! This is the $1200 kit correct? Does it comes with the subsequent custom tunes you'll need to dial the car in?


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Are you planning to dyno it after you receive the revised tune?
 
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Awesome write up! This is the $1200 kit correct? Does it comes with the subsequent custom tunes you'll need to dial the car in?


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This is the $1200, but that is the price if you get the EcoEconomy IC. The EcoPro is $380 more. Check out the IC torture test that FFTEC did if you want to see the nitty gritty difference between the two. I personally went with the EcoPro because I want to make sure the IC can handle any future power needs I come up with.
 

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Are you planning to dyno it after you receive the revised tune?

I plan to dyno the car once the weather warms up and I have some free time. Not in a rush to get it done because I didn't dyno before the mods so the actual gains will be unknown.


Also, thought I'd share some really informal info about the temperature decreases from the new IC. Last week before the IC install I was seeing max charge temps in the 70 degree range driving to work, not pushing the car too hard, but not babying it. The ambient temperature last week was in the 20s. Today on the same drive with the same driving style the temps never went above 61 degrees with an ambient temperature of about 47. Throttle response is also improved and the car feels like it builds boost faster.

At work now, but I'll post the pictures from the front and an engine bay shot when I get home from work today as requested before.
 
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Here are a couple more pics. First is an under hood shot. You can see the intake and turbo charge pipe. The next two are of the front with and without flash to show the IC. You really can't see it but I was asked so here they are.





 

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Looks very nice!
 
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Whatchu doin w/ the grill shutters?
Right now they are in a box with the rest of the stock parts. Probably won't do anything with them. Still have the grill and fogs from my 11gt too...

Maybe in 40 years they'll be worth something with the restoration crowd... heh
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