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I dont go by magazines, real world is all I'm concerned with. You'll see 11.9 out of standard 350's, prob about 12.5 out of stick SS's, 12.8 out of GT's. In a roll on the 350 will walk an SS like the dog. If Ford puts a 4.30 in the 350 it will be a rocketship(and easier to drive). At a road...

Its the chevy lovers mentioning it in the same sentence. Its not close by any measure, its alot further apart than a GTPP M6 and an SS M6, and you guys like to call that a canyon apart.

r's will run 11.7 and non r 11.9. They have to learn how to drive them. When 4.10's come out they will drop another .1 or two. And they will fly on a road course all day.

Want to hear that thing scream!

Remember this one http://www.motortrend.com/news/112_0308_ford_mustang_boss_350_v_10/ Not taller but longer. Imagine a 6.5 liter spray bore V-10 Coyote, how would chevy handle that?

I agree.

Well then SAE is not what its cracked up to be, is it.

I'll can go with that, do you know how many passes they did to get the numbers?

Your point is that in say, 70 degree 50% humidity with 93 in the tanks the Z would have made the same power and the GT would have made about 490?

You are missing the point. Compared on the same exact dyno at near the same time, one car posts industry expected numbers for its sae rating, the other is nearly half of whats expected. Using the same dyno at the same time removes all the BIG variables. If the GT would have pulled in the 490...

Same dyno, same day, same temperature. Just facts.

Another interesting metric; the Z ran a 12.3 at 116 matching its magazine time on an unimproved surface in the heat of the desert. At some point, even the chevy nut huggers have to admit when every clue points to an anomaly, it is one. I would love to see a 7% loss R in this matchup.

I guess you don't understand friction losses and what is common, and what happens in high heat environments. And I rather have the Pill here than a lot of you couch warriors.

Was that the hottest stock Z28 in the country? 105 degrees, 7% loss, putting out equal horsepower with a car with lighter wheels, 20 more horsepower and a more efficient transmission?

Any plans to run long tubes on that beast?

And by the way, I said all these cars deserve drag radials, it just getting ridiculous to compare street tires. Its like shooting a sniper rifle with open sights.

Most of my experience is on slicks, but Ive seen what I described in my Boss on NT05R's.

Did you see the bog? So bad it lost 5 mph. That had to be a crappy 60', easily bettered by a good launch on street tires.

I don't consider drag radials a modification for a drag-strip. They should be required for all, as its silly to leave horsepower on the table. All of these cars are well beyond that. Whats going to be even funnier is when you try one from a roll, which is going to translate to a road course...

You don't think it can do both at the same time? It bogged its ass off on the 116 and still went 11.9. When they figure out how to launch it it will go even faster/quicker. They are leaving the stock condition behind as they are performance shops. Normal owners will figure it out soon enough...