6R80 Reset or Disable Adaptive Transmission Tables

[akmon]

Anything listed as adaptive I turned off or halted.

By the way. I was playing with chatgpt and this is the answer of stopping adaptative transmisión learning:

Yes, it can be problematic to use the "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" option in FORScan, especially for long periods. This feature is designed to permanently halt the transmission's ability to adapt its shift patterns and behavior based on your driving style, wear, and other conditions. While stopping adaptive learning might provide temporary benefits in certain cases, here’s why it’s generally not recommended:

Why "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" Can Be Harmful:
Loss of Performance Optimization:

The adaptive learning system adjusts shift points and other parameters to match your driving habits and the vehicle's condition. By stopping this process, the transmission won't adapt, which could lead to suboptimal performance, reduced smoothness in shifts, or inefficient gear changes over time.
Increased Wear and Tear:

As the transmission components wear over time, the adaptive system compensates for these changes to maintain optimal operation. Without adaptive learning, the transmission won’t make those adjustments, potentially leading to premature wear, harder shifts, or even damage to components.
Inconsistent Driving Experience:

The transmission might behave well initially after stopping the learning, but it won’t continue adjusting to changes in driving conditions (e.g., city driving vs. highway driving) or the vehicle's mechanical state. This could result in inconsistent shifting or performance issues as the vehicle ages.
Reduced Fuel Efficiency:

Adaptive learning helps the transmission find the most efficient shift patterns for your driving style, leading to better fuel efficiency. If you stop this learning, the transmission may not shift as efficiently, potentially increasing fuel consumption.
When It Might Be Useful to Stop Adaptive Learning:
There are very few situations where stopping adaptive transmission learning could be temporarily beneficial, such as:

Diagnostics or Troubleshooting: When diagnosing transmission issues or performing certain tests, you might want to prevent adaptive learning from interfering with your diagnosis.
Temporary Reset: If the transmission has learned incorrect patterns (due to unusual driving or mechanical issues), stopping and resetting adaptive learning might improve performance for a short time.
However, in these cases, it’s generally better to reset or clear adaptive tables rather than permanently stopping adaptive learning.

Conclusion:
Using "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" permanently can lead to long-term issues with transmission performance, reduced efficiency, and potentially accelerated wear. It’s generally better to allow the transmission to continuously adapt or, if needed, reset the adaptive learning process rather than stopping it entirely.

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[Torinate]

What’s the difference between halt and stop?

 

[sirben711]

By the way. I was playing with chatgpt and this is the answer of stopping adaptative transmisión learning:

Yes, it can be problematic to use the "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" option in FORScan, especially for long periods. This feature is designed to permanently halt the transmission's ability to adapt its shift patterns and behavior based on your driving style, wear, and other conditions. While stopping adaptive learning might provide temporary benefits in certain cases, here’s why it’s generally not recommended:

Of course an AI would say that. Its protecting its lesser digital brother.

 

[akmon]

What’s the difference between halt and stop?

My guess is that:

If the car learn some miles and you feel comfortable with that behaviour, you halt for not letting to continue learning and stays as is until you press resume to continue learning.
If you press Stop, I think it clears all the data and disable any king of learning. What I don´t now is how to enable it, selecting resume the same as halt, or pushing again stop to make the inverse funtion.

 

[K4fxd]

I've had mine off for about 10K miles. No ill effects.

 

[Torinate]

That’s all the proof I need!

 

[MidnightStars]

I assume I can spend some time now to update everyone, as well as respond to this.

By the way. I was playing with chatgpt and this is the answer of stopping adaptative transmisión learning:

Yes, it can be problematic to use the "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" option in FORScan, especially for long periods. This feature is designed to permanently halt the transmission's ability to adapt its shift patterns and behavior based on your driving style, wear, and other conditions. While stopping adaptive learning might provide temporary benefits in certain cases, here’s why it’s generally not recommended:

Why "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" Can Be Harmful:
Loss of Performance Optimization:

The adaptive learning system adjusts shift points and other parameters to match your driving habits and the vehicle's condition. By stopping this process, the transmission won't adapt, which could lead to suboptimal performance, reduced smoothness in shifts, or inefficient gear changes over time.
Increased Wear and Tear:

As the transmission components wear over time, the adaptive system compensates for these changes to maintain optimal operation. Without adaptive learning, the transmission won’t make those adjustments, potentially leading to premature wear, harder shifts, or even damage to components.
Inconsistent Driving Experience:

The transmission might behave well initially after stopping the learning, but it won’t continue adjusting to changes in driving conditions (e.g., city driving vs. highway driving) or the vehicle's mechanical state. This could result in inconsistent shifting or performance issues as the vehicle ages.
Reduced Fuel Efficiency:

Adaptive learning helps the transmission find the most efficient shift patterns for your driving style, leading to better fuel efficiency. If you stop this learning, the transmission may not shift as efficiently, potentially increasing fuel consumption.
When It Might Be Useful to Stop Adaptive Learning:
There are very few situations where stopping adaptive transmission learning could be temporarily beneficial, such as:

Diagnostics or Troubleshooting: When diagnosing transmission issues or performing certain tests, you might want to prevent adaptive learning from interfering with your diagnosis.
Temporary Reset: If the transmission has learned incorrect patterns (due to unusual driving or mechanical issues), stopping and resetting adaptive learning might improve performance for a short time.
However, in these cases, it’s generally better to reset or clear adaptive tables rather than permanently stopping adaptive learning.

Conclusion:
Using "Stop Adaptive Transmission Learning" permanently can lead to long-term issues with transmission performance, reduced efficiency, and potentially accelerated wear. It’s generally better to allow the transmission to continuously adapt or, if needed, reset the adaptive learning process rather than stopping it entirely.

My driving patterns have been fairly consistent over the upcoming 10 years with my car. Mostly highway driving, and the ever so rare high speed/hard driving.

If the transmission was learning properly, it wouldn't have come down to this. Just to entertain you, I re-enabled the adaptive pattern, and the harshness slowly re-appeared over the 14-15 months I kept it enabled. So amount of transmission fluid/diff swapped changed that. Disabling it once again, it has been smooth, and stayed smooth for the past half-year.

As long as you maintain and care for your transmission, the 6R80 cannot wear at a rate capable of requiring such adaptations to begin with. It is a proven, good transmission.

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