Meh.. thats the Amsoil "independant test" distributor sales paperwork talking.Depending on what you want to do and fuel you want to use. Amsoil is really the best choice. Most oils dont hold up to e85 very well. Especially something to consider since you just filled out for the ff lund tune. Also there isnt anything thats just as good as amsoil. Nothing. The only company that did in early 2000s changed their forumla. Amsoil has no rival to date currently.
Not in particular. Just something against Multi-level marketing companies in general.Something against AMSOIL?
I lean in this direction. Keep oil in the engine, any oil as long as its reasonably clean. And it will go out past 100k miles before any noticeable drop in compression, or failing an emissions test.Meh... the car will last 100+k miles easily with factory recommended Motorcraft oil. No need for Amsoil.
you missed my edit. Its more then paper work. I have a lot of experience with high hp builds. Ive used amsoil for a bit over a decade now. This is real world results and experience with many oil analysis. You do what you want but you dont seem very educated on the topic of oil it seems. I wish you the best.Meh.. thats the Amsoil "independant test" distributor sales paperwork talking.
Not in particular. Just something against Multi-level marketing companies in general.
I won't clog up your thread with opinions on the oil though. No more comments from me on it. :cheers:
You would be misinformed.I lean in this direction. Keep oil in the engine, any oil as long as its reasonably clean. And it will go out past 100k miles before any noticeable drop in compression, or failing an emissions test.
That's assuming its driven normally and is an NA engine. If its driven hard, red-lined periodically, turbo / SC, then I don't know. Even then, I suspect all that's needed is to accelerate the oil change schedule
I do know that full synthetic is better than regular oil in an oil cooled turbo setup. Synthetic will not coke up on the bearings and cause premature failure like dino oil when the car is shut down hot.I lean in this direction. Keep oil in the engine, any oil as long as its reasonably clean. And it will go out past 100k miles before any noticeable drop in compression, or failing an emissions test.
That's assuming its driven normally and is an NA engine. If its driven hard, red-lined periodically, turbo / SC, then I don't know. Even then, I suspect all that's needed is to accelerate the oil change schedule.
that's how my old car was :lol:It'll last 200K, at least, with any oil you can buy today.
I had a 1990 5.0 that burned a crapload of oil. Basically never changed it after 125K mi. Just added oil. Not sure about the filter. It ran over 225K, sold it!
I don't claim to be an expert. Honestly would love to learn more, as I plan to run E85, and have a turbo build sometime in the near future.you missed my edit. Its more then paper work. I have a lot of experience with high hp builds. Ive used amsoil for a bit over a decade now. This is real world results and experience with many oil analysis. You do what you want but you dont seem very educated on the topic of oil it seems. I wish you the best.
Ill pm you to keep his thread on topic!I don't claim to be an expert. Honestly would love to learn more, as I plan to run E85, and have a turbo build sometime in the near future.
So out of curiosity, what would your recommendations be for an E85 na/turbo setup weight wise etc?
Youd be wrong. E85 fuel delution is real.I just checked the manual for a 2015 Ford F-150 with a flex fuel 5.0 coyote engine and Ford specs the same oil as our cars. Not sure I'd worry about the factory fill and E85 too much.
I'm not saying it's not real. I'm stating that the Ford flex fuel coyote F150 comes from the factory with the same oil that the Mustang coyotes do. I'm just stating a fact. I would think if Ford thought E85 was a big problem with the oil that it would spec something else in the flex fuel vehicles?Youd be wrong. E85 fuel delution is real.
Ford probably expects the F150 engines to work a lot harder than the Mustang engines. Towing 5000 pounds is a lot more work than the occasional "spirited" driving.I'm not saying it's not real. I'm stating that the Ford flex fuel coyote F150 comes from the factory with the same oil that the Mustang coyotes do. I'm just stating a fact. I would think if Ford thought E85 was a big problem with the oil that it would spec something else in the flex fuel vehicles?
They do recommend changing the oil more often...when running E85 more then 50% of the time they recommend every 5000 miles.Ford probably expects the F150 engines to work a lot harder than the Mustang engines. Towing 5000 pounds is a lot more work than the occasional "spirited" driving.
They would rather sell you a car. As a master tech in the automotive field. They only expect a car to last 90-100k before you have failures following their maintenance plan. For example bmw says its rear differential fluid is life time as is its transmission fluid. Well thats a load of crap. No fluid holds viscosity that long. It eventually stops doing its job then you get excessive wear and then failure. They calculate what they think people will own the car for before its sold. Unfortunately the next poor sucker doesnt know what hes in for. Dealer maintenance intervals are generally set into place for you to expect your car to need replacing in 7yrs. With all of that said if you trust that they have your very best interest at heart, ill sell you a bridge. Fuel delution ruins the oil. A very cheap grade like motorcrafts isnt going to resist it and you will have nice accelerated wear. It is important contrary to your lack of knowledge on the topic.I'm not saying it's not real. I'm stating that the Ford flex fuel coyote F150 comes from the factory with the same oil that the Mustang coyotes do. I'm just stating a fact. I would think if Ford thought E85 was a big problem with the oil that it would spec something else in the flex fuel vehicles?
I would have to agree with everything you said, and can't argue it. But I do know people that have exceeded 200k+miles on cars and trucks following the factory maintenance intervals and recommendations.They would rather sell you a car. As a master tech in the automotive field. They only expect a car to last 90-100k before you have failures following their maintenance plan. For example bmw says its rear differential fluid is life time as is its transmission fluid. Well thats a load of crap. No fluid holds viscosity that long. It eventually stops doing its job then you get excessive wear and then failure. They calculate what they think people will own the car for before its sold. Unfortunately the next poor sucker doesnt know what hes in for. Dealer maintenance intervals are generally set into place for you to expect your car to need replacing in 7yrs. With all of that said if you trust that they have your very best interest at heart, ill sell you a bridge.
