Clutch Spring Removal to Aid in Linear Pressure

[doulos4jc]

Im more interested in a difference with the clutch line replacement. Thanks anyway ;)

I've seen a few posts about it...I also did a search that didn't give up much info. The subject may merit its own thread

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[Branman]

Is there anyone interested in selling the clutch spring? I lost mine and would like to try throwing it back in to compare now that I have almost 10k on my car.

 

[redline727]

I've seen a few posts about it...I also did a search that didn't give up much info. The subject may merit its own thread [emoji106]

Im more interested in a difference with the clutch line replacement. Thanks anyway ;)

I did the clutch line on my 13 and will eventually do it on my 15 likely unless Ford updated the design and didn't use a plastic tube again. I did on my 13 for that reason. When I would push the car hard the fluid gets hot and warms the plastic tube style factory line and makes the pedal feel spongy from expanding and contracting due to the heat. The braided SS line takes that away. Giving you much more consistent pedal pressure and holds more volume of fluid over the factory line as well. After I get my 15 past 1K miles and do an oil change I'll push it more and see if this is still an issue. From what I can see of the stock line it looks the same style as my 13 but possibly could be insulated better. We will see. If you decide to do one and need install tips and bleeding procedures let me know.

 

[fionic]

late last week I started getting a noise when engaging the clutch (lifting up on pedal after clutch was disengaged).

It happens when in neutral and also in 1/2 (haven't launched from 3).

It happens right at the point where the clutch would engage/slip and then goes away once the pedal is past that point.

I've only heard it when getting the car moving (starting from standstill, not during normal shifting, at least.... I couldn't hear/feel it during normal shifting).

It's sort of a... squeeling noise. Not very loud or high pitched, but it has something to do with the spinning engine because the noise changes when throttle is applied.

Not sure if it has anything to do with the spring being out, but I figured I'd post here to see if anyone else has experienced this.

I couldn't find anything related to this specific noise in the tranny forums.

I suspect it may be a bad release bearing?

Thoughts?

 

[Old Guard]

2016 Mustang GT 6M 3.55
Have 470 miles on odometer now and have had very smooth shifting in all gears, and haven't had issues with clutch pedal feel. I haven't driven a manual transmission vehicle much in the last 30 years so I don't have any recent comparison vehicles to compare the Mustang against (1971 Dodge Challenger RT383 four-speed with tacky pistol grip shift knob that seemed way cool at the time). Maybe the thing that has prevented the problems others have encountered is that I am giving the car plenty of time to warm up before doing any serious rowing. The concern I would have for those of you who have performed the "spring-ectomy" is imperceptible wearing of your throwout bearing.

 

[redline727]

late last week I started getting a noise when engaging the clutch (lifting up on pedal after clutch was disengaged).

It happens when in neutral and also in 1/2 (haven't launched from 3).

It happens right at the point where the clutch would engage/slip and then goes away once the pedal is past that point.

I've only heard it when getting the car moving (starting from standstill, not during normal shifting, at least.... I couldn't hear/feel it during normal shifting).

It's sort of a... squeeling noise. Not very loud or high pitched, but it has something to do with the spinning engine because the noise changes when throttle is applied.

Not sure if it has anything to do with the spring being out, but I figured I'd post here to see if anyone else has experienced this.

I couldn't find anything related to this specific noise in the tranny forums.

I suspect it may be a bad release bearing?

Thoughts?

How does the pedal feel? Check your fluid level and condition. Make sure it's not really dark. If the pedal feels different or engagement height changed I would start with a flush and bleed and see what happens. If you do so make sure you vacuum bleed the system the way your supposed to. Ensuring the system holds vacuum will help indicate if there are any leaks. If you need any help on how to do either let me know. Beyond this I would recommend bringing it in as the slave cylinder may need to be inspected which is in the bell housing on our cars, and the bearing.

 

[fionic]

How does the pedal feel? Check your fluid level and condition. Make sure it's not really dark. If the pedal feels different or engagement height changed I would start with a flush and bleed and see what happens. If you do so make sure you vacuum bleed the system the way your supposed to. Ensuring the system holds vacuum will help indicate if there are any leaks. If you need any help on how to do either let me know. Beyond this I would recommend bringing it in as the slave cylinder may need to be inspected which is in the bell housing on our cars, and the bearing.

no pedal feel change, unfortunately. I'll check the fluid next. Thanks for the info.

 

[pinero61]

If you don't mind could you go more in depth on the "night and day difference in feel". Thank you!

Pedal is firm, engagement point is now obvious, and with less expansion from the line and fluid the clutch disengages faster with a more positive feel underfoot.

 

[Need 4 Steed]

What fluid did you go with


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[fionic]

Pedal is firm, engagement point is now obvious, and with less expansion from the line and fluid the clutch disengages faster with a more positive feel underfoot.

nice. how much in total?

 

[pinero61]

200 bucks for the line and around 30 bucks for the fluid. Replaced the clutch and brake fluid.

AMSoil 600 series DOT 4

 

[Need 4 Steed]

Not bad. Might have to do the same


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[fionic]

my clutch noise disppeared. probably nothing to do with the spring. ignore me.

 

[Branman]

Pedal is firm, engagement point is now obvious, and with less expansion from the line and fluid the clutch disengages faster with a more positive feel underfoot.

Did you do both at the same time or is this your impressions from just the line? Thanks

 

[StangIt #1]

After owning my GT PP for 9 months, accumulating nearly 5,800 miles on the odometer, and still struggling with rough 1-2 and (especially) 2-3 shifts on regular occasion, I finally pulled the spring assembly. It took less than a minute with long nose vise grips. I basically clamped the vise grips on the center two coils of the spring, depressed the clutch pedal with my right hand, and used my left hand to slightly push down on the plastic piece at the top of the assembly. The entire assembly basically fell out in my hand.

To me, the clutch "heaviness" has increased probably by 45%; however, it now feels MUCH more connected. I immediately took it for a 5 mile drive and only wish I would have done this so much sooner. The engagement point is obvious and even slipping the clutch to back (uphill) out of the driveway was easier.

My previous stick shift experience: 11 years in a 5-speed V8 Dodge Dakota & 3 years in a 6-speed Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.

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