UPGRADING Cooling Systems on Tech Pack

[eric n]

So I'm getting the gt350 with the tech package, as being a quality Arse Kicking Daily Driver is my primary concern. That said, I expect that I will make a sojourn or two to a track to experience and display to others the full mediocrity of my driving skills.

Given all of this, does anyone have an educated guess (or better yet actual knowledge about) what is the availability of Track Pack upgrade parts for better cooling of Engine Oil, Differential and Transmission?????

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[F1-R]

Need this info too, getting base model only :(

So I'm getting the gt350 with the tech package, as being a quality Arse Kicking Daily Driver is my primary concern. That said, I expect that I will make a sojourn or two to a track to experience and display to others the full mediocrity of my driving skills.

Given all of this, does anyone have an educated guess (or better yet actual knowledge about) what is the availability of Track Pack upgrade parts for better cooling of Engine Oil, Differential and Transmission?????

I also would like to know this info since I cannot afford the track package. I don't need the cooling or MagneRide, but I would like it since this will be my one and only vehicle for the next 5-7 years. Having a better daily driver would be my goal.

 

[chrsschb]

I also would like to know this info since I cannot afford the track package. I don't need the cooling or MagneRide, but I would like it since this will be my one and only vehicle for the next 5-7 years. Having a better daily driver would be my goal.

Engine and Oil won't be hard, but the transmission cooler is integrated into the transmission of the R/Track and would likely require a transmissions swap.

 

[Quiksilver15]

Before this thread, I didn't realize people were planning to DD their GT350s. That's awesome!

 

[nastang87xx]

Before this thread, I didn't realize people were planning to DD their GT350s. That's awesome!

I'm just going to rub my private parts all over the car and have daily cult worship ceremonies every night on my garage. [emoji88]

Lol of course I'm going to DD mine. Track Pack. Bought it to drive it

 

[nastang87xx]

It's probably not really necessary to have those coolers if you're not doing track duty very frequently. A few blasts around a road course isn't going to hurt anything.

 

[Cruzinaround]

^Also if you live in temperate climates where there is a Spring and a Fall season and the ambient temps are hovering between 50 and 65 degrees F you would also not require all these coolers.

It's more for those hot summer runs where the temps on the Tarmac can fry eggs.

I think any of you southerners and west coasters are more the target audience for a Track pack. The new England crowd can get along just fine with a Tech pack and benefit from the additional amenities like the heated seats and side view window heaters in the colder months.

 

[Hack]

It's probably not really necessary to have those coolers if you're not doing track duty very frequently. A few blasts around a road course isn't going to hurt anything.

Right. The coolers just help the fluids last longer, unless it's so hot at the track that the fluids get overheated. I only track a couple times a year, so the worst case is changing fluids after each event. Doing that a couple times a year doesn't bother me too much. In fact I like thinking of having fresh fluids in the car. Components might last a little longer due to fresh fluids even though it's been pushed hard at the track.

 

[Honus]

At one event or another (I'm losing track) the engineers said the coolers are basically there if your plan is to run the car all day. For a half day event or so the tech pack won't really need the extra coolers.

Extra cooling probably isn't going to hurt - but like someone said here, the R tranny has a very slightly different layout for the cooling.

 

[Try2paz]

It's all about common sense if you're planning on tracking the car. I live in NorCal and I track a CTS-v and while I've upgraded the cooling and intercooler I'm still smart on picking track days. For instance my favorite track is thunderhill but in the summer months the track temps are well over 100 so I avoid it and head to Laguna next to the ocean. Once the spring / fall returns and cooler weather prevails inland I head back to t-hill.

Also making sure you have fresh fluid in everything is important as well.

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

It's probably not really necessary to have those coolers if you're not doing track duty very frequently. A few blasts around a road course isn't going to hurt anything.

I agree. Unless you have a lot of track experience, you probably won't be able to push the car hard enough to get those fluids hot in a typical track session. Especially on street tires. With experience you probably will be able to get those fluids hot enough and the car has built in protection to cut power.

I'm sure those kits will be available soon as there will be many Mustang owners (GT, EB) who want these upgrades too for the track. Let Ford do the engineering and then buy a kit. It's the best way to go. Aftermarket options are also out there. You could always run an external kit with a pump like is used on most diff coolers.

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

Right. The coolers just help the fluids last longer, unless it's so hot at the track that the fluids get overheated. I only track a couple times a year, so the worst case is changing fluids after each event. Doing that a couple times a year doesn't bother me too much. In fact I like thinking of having fresh fluids in the car. Components might last a little longer due to fresh fluids even though it's been pushed hard at the track.

This is an important point too. When I was running my 4.6 4V with the stock water to oil cooler, I would routinely get water temps of 240 and oil temps of 300. I was changing the oil after every event (oil analysis recommended). That's two hours of track time. Once I switched to the Coyote and an air to oil cooler, I am now getting water temps of 215 and oil temps of 250 and I can go 5-6 events between changes.

 

[F1-R]

Thank you all. Everyone here is very helpful. On the topic of cooling, does anyone here know or have an opinion if it would be necessary as a small and cheap addition to go ahead and upgrade the cooling fans? I know this is usually a quick and efficient mod that I have seen around tracks for older mustangs. This and a more efficient radiator too.

 

[bpracer]

Thank you all. Everyone here is very helpful. On the topic of cooling, does anyone here know or have an opinion if it would be necessary as a small and cheap addition to go ahead and upgrade the cooling fans? I know this is usually a quick and efficient mod that I have seen around tracks for older mustangs. This and a more efficient radiator too.

The base car comes with an upgraded radiator over the stock GT-5.0 . If the track pack / R cars are dumping the extra heat from the oil to a radiator (I'm assuming a oil to water heat exchanger) then I think you are going to be fine with the stock GT350 stuff.

My 65 vintage racer didn't even have fan, as long as I wasn't stuck in the grid too long, it was never an issue...

 

[eric n]

^Also if you live in temperate climates where there is a Spring and a Fall season and the ambient temps are hovering between 50 and 65 degrees F you would also not require all these coolers.

It's more for those hot summer runs where the temps on the Tarmac can fry eggs.

I think any of you southerners and west coasters are more the target audience for a Track pack. The new England crowd can get along just fine with a Tech pack and benefit from the additional amenities like the heated seats and side view window heaters in the colder months.

I live in Bakersfield, it's 105 today. Tomorrow is suppose to be 108. That's not rare. Winter is mostly 50's to 70's.... mid 30's can happen very occasionally as do mid 80's. 110 is not shocking much of the year. If I track my car, it will likely get hot as hell! So any info concerning the prices of upgrading fluid cooling would be helpful. But, thanks for the intel.

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