2016 Camaro coming May 16th

[Free Agent]

camaro6 could use that as their banner. :lol:

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[Todd15Fastback]

camaro6 could use that as their banner. :lol:

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Free Agent]

T-Tops F@#& YEAH!!!

 

[chrisvr6]

Maybe someone can photoshop it with some T-tops and the driver sporting a mullet to match flowing in the wind. :mullet:

Couldn't resist.

came not good ;)

 

[minjitta]

stolen some more

The rear sure dont look muscle or sport, more like a sedan, if this is new camaro 6g, then they will have 7g camaro before mustang 7g.

 

[thePill]

The profile from the A-Pillar up is better than the 5th Gen. Modern GM vehicles have always had sharp edges as a main design theme. From the A-Pillar up, the profile is a huge improvement. But... The front from the 3/4 and head on are hideous.

My favorite design feature is the sail panel and hip design. I really liked the spy shots of the die press. As you can see though, that feature is reduced and obscured by the rest of the car's profile. The entire car from mid-door back isn't working for me. I wish they would have designed around the sail panel/hip area. It looked sooooooo F-22 on the press, it looks like total sh!t here.

The roof profile doesn't say World Class Sports Coupe at all. It says "I'm a sedan, put your kids in me".

 

[minjitta]

It sure have enough head room in the back seats, but the rear you cant tell if its a camaro or some gm sedan, the rear also look to thick just not for my taste. Got wait untill May 16 to see how it look like.

 

[garagelogic]

Pretty sure that's a pic of Al O. In his younger years!

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Pretty sure that's a pic of Al O. In his younger years!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::hail:

 

[Erik427]

He just had to stand next to a mid 1980's Ford.....That truck does not deserve to be degraded like that.

 

[Free Agent]

came not good ;)

You are awesome, exactly what was pictured in my mind. :first:

 

[JustACarGuy]

I, for one, feel GM took a path of least resistance with the styling of the 6th generation Camaro. From what we have seen to-date, we can pretty well determine that the exterior design is going to closely resemble the current generation. That's really sad and says to me that GM is scared to death of losing the pony are market share they gained with the introduction of the 5th Generation Camaro.

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Well of course they are scared or losing market share.....that's the name of the game, and you could say the same thing for any car maker. This is just another competitive segment of leap frogging one another and we, as customers win!

Ding ding ding!
The main reason camaro's rocketed is because it wasn't being produced for 8 years...

Also we can beat a dead horse all we want, you don't have to read the thread:headbonk:

Sure...Camaro had 5 years of market share due to not being produced for awhile. Doubtful. If the Camaro's sales depended that much on the GM fan boys wanting a Camaro they would have dried up after a year or two.

I don't think there is any way we'll see Camaro touch the 12K + units that Mustang did recently, but you'll see Camaro sales pick up at first, and Mustang sales level off. Where they end up after a few years will be the story.

 

[JustACarGuy]

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The roof profile doesn't say World Class Sports Coupe at all. It says "I'm a sedan, put your kids in me".

If you like fast backs then I can understand that. Some aren't as much of a fastback fan.

 

[chazcron]

Just for the record, I'm not sold on Chaz's rendering either...although I think he does great work. As for the rendering itself...its just not sitting perfectly well with me. Certain views are nice, and others not as much.

But I wouldn't put much faith in those renderings being as "overall" accurate as he was with the 2015 Mustang which he was very close on. With the Mustang, he had inside info, CAD drawings, and leaks to go on which helped a lot.

In this case, all he has is the camo'd cars to go on and that is it. If you look at the very latest close up shots found on the Camaro6 website, there is definitely still extra body work, and tape work done on the windows which could be off from Chaz's rendering.

There is ZERO doubt in my mind that there will be details found on the release that are not found in Chaz renderings, and those details can make a huge difference. But if I had to guess, I'd say the general body work in the renderings is fairly close, with some lines on the front and back being off, tail lights are wrong (aside from the outside shape, Chaz just made them up) and there may be some hidden ducts/side vents we are not seeing as well.

I will withhold my judgment until May 16th.

Well said.

 

[whysoserious]

Okay y'all are probably gonna call me crazy, but I have a theory on the 200+ lbs weight loss claim by GM. Ready?

The 200 or more pounds lost is referring not from one single 5th gen vehicle to one single 6th gen vehicle - it means the entire 6th gen lineup lost 200(+) pounds when compared to the equivalent 5th gen lineup. Heres how I got there.

Official statement by GM: "The 2016 Chevrolet Camaro features an aluminum beam to support the instrument panel, which is 9.7 lbs. (4.4 kg) lighter than the previous steel beam. Changes like this help reduce total curb weight for the new Camaro by more than 200 pounds."

The key word I focused on is "total" curb weight. Why would they say this? "Total" as opposed to what? Partial curb weight, or double curb weight? There's no such thing, there is simply the curb weight. With that in mind I interpret their words to mean that they added the curb weights of the cars throughout the lineup, at least where there is a known equivalent. Let's keep going.

1. Claim that there is a loss of at least 200 lbs. How do we get to this? Compare the premium trims:
(Heaviest 5th gen V8 trim + heaviest 5th gen V6 trim) minus (Heaviest 6th gen V8 trim + heaviest 6th gen V6 trim) = 200 lbs difference

2. Claim of more than 200 lbs weight loss? Simple, this is comparing the base models.
(Lightest 5th gen V8 trim + lightest 5th gen V6 trim) minus (lightest 6th gen V8 trim + lightest 6th gen V6 trim) = 200+ lbs difference. Makes sense as base models are typically less heavy than premium trims.

Further, this theory explains some other issues that arose from a 200 pound single-vehicle difference theory.

Per the chevy website, the curb weight for a 1SS is listed as 3908 lbs. The ATS-V is reported to be 3700 or so lbs. If we take the 200 directly from the 3908, that puts us right at the weight of an ATS-V. Now, Mr. Pill may say some crazy things now and then, but I think he is correct and we can all agree that this is not compatible. Why? Well we know for certain that 1) the 6th gen camaro will gain some physical size over the ATS platform, and 2) the addition of the V8 power train / drive train is going to add mass and reinforcements that are not present on the ATS-V or any other model. BOTH of these factors are going to add weight, and so there is simply no way that the 1SS could weigh in at 3700.

BUT, if the 1SS was to lose say, 75 lbs, and the base V6 model was to lose 125 lbs (or some other combination, heck even 100/100), well now that is certainly much more realistic and plausible. And there is the 200 pounds we're looking for.

Keep in mind that these comparisons do not include the ZL1, Z28, or convertibles, because I'm pretty sure GM isn't including these in their figures.

In summary, this whole thing turns on my interpretation of the "total" modifier of curb weight. It's wild, but everything fits into place properly with this interpretation.

Of course this is just speculation I could be wrong.

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