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If you are in fact purchasing for MSRP your lucky buddy, what I'm saying is that folks are getting very worked up with the car and we are no were near it hitting dealerships yet, the dealerships are going to give you halfhearted promises if they really even have the true information on the vehicle. I am not saying some dealerships are point on with the GT350 but alot out there have no real clue until it gets much closer to the actual release date. I can tell you two really big Ford dealerships well known for specialty mustangs in Tampa & other in Daytona bch. both are not talking anything other than what we all know here and somewhat to a lesser degree of knowledge as to the car. They will get them when they get them, will they sell @ MSRP initialy? I doubt it, I have purchased (2) mustangs from the dealership in Daytona I know they are not going to sell this car (or first one) at MSRP who knows maybe they will, I am not going to get on a list or call all over the state at this point when the car is still way off. And yes don't ya think a guy kinda deserve's something like a one time opportunity at getting that dream car after 29 years on the job. At least thats how my wife is agreeing to it.
There is no luck involved with working out a fair deal to get a hot new limited model at MSRP. It takes effort and persistence. The dealers who will sell at MSRP right out the gate for the GT350 will usually be small market dealers in areas that do not sell many mustangs and usually sell trucks or SUVs. They will be dealerships that probably will only get one allocation. They will be in small towns where people don't have a lot of disposable income. It takes planning, negotiating effort and tenacity to work out a deal this early. Daytona is an area where people have a lot of disposable income so I am sure ADMs will be at dealerships for quite a while. If you want one at a fair price you at going to need to put more effort into it. A good deal isn't going to fall into your lap in Daytona or Tampa. There is no luck in buying a GT350 only smarts and effort. I never said you didn't deserve the car only said that is is unwise to use a portion of your pension to buy a car. Any financial planner would tell you the same thing. If any of us need a deal at MSRP it is you because every dollar of ADM you pay will be another dollar lost out of your pension. I only wish you the best with your purchase. I hope you realize that you can buy the car from an out of state dealer and have them transfer the delivery from the factory to your local dealer. Buy one from a dealer in North Dakota at MSRP where nobody wants a mustang and then have it delivered to a dealer in Daytina and thumb your nose at them as you walk out the door with a MSRP deal or better!
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^or that person is a candidate for a model below the GT350?^

If you can't afford it... then there are other Mustang models. If you just gotta have a Mustang. It seems there is one for every budget.
 

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There is no luck involved with working out a fair deal to get a hot new limited model at MSRP. It takes effort and persistence. The dealers who will sell at MSRP right out the gate for the GT350 will usually be small market dealers in areas that do not sell many mustangs and usually sell trucks or SUVs. They will be dealerships that probably will only get one allocation. They will be in small towns where people don't have a lot of disposable income. It takes planning, negotiating effort and tenacity to work out a deal this early. Daytona is an area where people have a lot of disposable income so I am sure ADMs will be at dealerships for quite a while. If you want one at a fair price you at going to need to put more effort into it. A good deal isn't going to fall into your lap in Daytona or Tampa. There is no luck in buying a GT350 only smarts and effort. I never said you didn't deserve the car only said that is is unwise to use a portion of your pension to buy a car. Any financial planner would tell you the same thing. If any of us need a deal at MSRP it is you because every dollar of ADM you pay will be another dollar lost out of your pension. I only wish you the best with your purchase. I hope you realize that you can buy the car from an out of state dealer and have them transfer the delivery from the factory to your local dealer. Buy one from a dealer in North Dakota at MSRP where nobody wants a mustang and then have it delivered to a dealer in Daytina and thumb your nose at them as you walk out the door with a MSRP deal or better!
Wow! seems as though you can advise as to a pension plan, I don't think you know of the actual pension system that I currently have, I am extremely fortunate to have what I have and to hopefuly hold onto it as the City is trying to attack it every year, most people say fire-fighter's / police officer's/military deserve a descent retirement for what we do over 25-30 years, I have seen many firemen & police officer's killed in the line of duty or pass very shortly after retiring, I can tell you that young men/women coming on today will not in 25-30 years enjoy the retirement we currently enjoy today, ya see people will tell you one thing but will do somethng else that is how politics work, car dealerships are somewhat similar, so yes you are lucky to be able to get this car at MSRP. especially in "JAPAN" The car is still way off we all have been educated as to the rumered price but do you really know what that will be even down to a thousand or so I doubt it, I know I will not be one of the first to get this car I will patiently wait until I can buy it and yes hopefully that will be as I use a small portion of my "pension" and at a good price when my time comes. You state I should maybe find a small dealership in maybe N.Dakota? really, I don't see how that would be any bit feasable in having to have the car possibly transported to Florida pay the sales tax between two states or fly to BFE and then drive halfway accross the country home not that I would mind that it would be a wonderful ride home if it were in the summer/fall, and hopefully I don't need to be reporting in anywhere for duty. I am of course not wanting to pay any ADM like everyone else I am also not making myself so impatient in having to have the first one, as others have stated here, there will be plenty of the "16" GT350's in due time maybe not riteaway but the supply will meet demand I am confident in saying, if I am blowing smoke as to the supply/demand please tell me different, I will respectfully resend my assessment.
 

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I feel ya Kammrk.. my gut tells me waiting until the following year would net me the better car. Simply because the first year release...is never %100.

I remember the release of the 5.0 Coyotes. Within a year the engine received some tweaks based on R&D and real world feedback...then an HP bump.... The Coyote motor evolved a bit. Then the Boss 302 taught more lessons...The lessons learned trickled down and the roadrunner bits found its way into the Coyote once again. Another HP bump and once again it evolved.

Same with the GT 500. stepping from the 5.4 to the final result in the Trinity 5.8. Now the only GT500's worth a damn are the 2013/14 versions with the final variation of that power plant..

I see the same happening with the VooDoo power plant. And even with the shell of the GT350. It can be improved upon and what we see in late 2015 then into 2016 will possibly transform into something better within the following year. The later 2016 to 2017 variations will likely be the ones to net the buyer a better bang for their buck.

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You can buy the car from BFE and then transfer the delivery to your local dealer. Destination charge is the same from the factory. Tax is based on where the car is titled and registered not where it is bought. Educated buyes save more money.
 

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The dealers who will sell at MSRP right out the gate for the GT350 will usually be small market dealers in areas that do not sell many mustangs and usually sell trucks or SUVs. They will be dealerships that probably will only get one allocation. They will be in small towns where people don't have a lot of disposable income.
^QFT

I just did a ton of research on a new 50 years LE and found one in a small dealership in Oklahoma. They were actually selling for $700 under MSRP due to not being a volume dealer nor a regular mustang seller.

Deals can and will be found, but as stated it requires work and patience.
 

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So my Dealer calls me Yesterday...."We've sprung for the guaranteed first allotment and we know based on our past history selling the Specialty cars...that we will be getting more of them in" .... She goes on to say if there is a markup on the first one through the SVT buy in program it will be just to cover the 1k buy in and keep the margin intact for the salesperson and dealership at MSRP.

She reiterates they only sell the specialty vehicles at sticker... every GT500, Boss 302, Raptor that has come through them has sold at MSRP. And they will continue to maintain that.

So her word to my ears were...."Don't worry, you don't have to be the first one to get a GT350 here...you can be second and if the first buyer withdraws his deposit... Then that one can be yours." I told her I wouldn't want it if it was delivered already as "he" ordered it. I want to order it the way I want the Color, Track options and trim level. So it would be best to wait for Ford to drop the info on everything for public consumption and we can move forward on it with known variables. Until then keep my deposit based on the unknown and we'll cross the next bridge when we get there.

I got a "No Problem".... And She got a customer possibly for life.



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I just did a ton of research on a new 50 years LE and found one in a small dealership in Oklahoma. They were actually selling for $700 under MSRP due to not being a volume dealer nor a regular mustang seller.

Deals can and will be found, but as stated it requires work and patience.

That holds true for every region...you're going to find a dealer that is not competing for the most profitable sale in an area where the demand is able to sustain it and looking to move inventory before their interest rate based on how long that vehicle sits on the lot and kills the profit if its there too long before it finally sells it might not be worth while for them to slap on ADM's.

Still a good find. The problem then is...with the time and travel incurred going to pick it up or having it transferred between dealerships on a trade it could eat up the savings and wind up costing more anyway...So just figure that in and then see where it lands that final purchase price. If its a destination fee and transfer fee and/or the cost of your travel offsets getting it closer to you for a minimal markup then you're break even either way.

Either way the Dealer's that do ADM's screw it up for everyone, including the dealers that don't.
 

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Hi Cruzin,
I am glad you were able to lock one in at MSRP. Deposit is in and you are waiting for the ordering bank to open like me. I already know what I want for the most part at least until the official ordering guide opens.
 

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I just read that a guy on BBCs Top Gear TV show stated that the Shelby GT350 has 520hp. What do you MSRP shoppers think?
 

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nah...it has a bit more....they're gonna shoot for a little bit more than 100HP per liter.

Why meet that 520 HP expectation when they have an opportunity to smash right through it.
 

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Wishing Ford did on-line GT350(R) purchase

I'm a newbie this forum, and also new to Mustangs. However, I'm not new to Ford vehicles - Escort in the past, and we now have an Explorer and F-150 Raptor.

The GT350(R) has sparked my interest, and lead me to this forum that is quite a big help. A few days after NAIS, I stopped by a couple of local dealerships to inquirer about GT350's. For the first dealership, I got deer in the headlight looks with my inquiry. Perhaps some Ford sales persons don't follow the new model announcements from the biggest auto show in North America. The second dealership simply scribbled my name down on a notepad. Unfortunately, I live in a area where ADM is a common practice, and took a $89 one-way Southwest flight to Southern California in order to avoid the ADM on the F-150 Raptor(MSRP + $15K at the first aforementioned dealership).

Personally, I wish Ford would adopt an on-line scheme for purchasing any of their performance vehicles. Volvo did this with their launch edition 2016 XC90 at MSRP, and a dealership for delivery of your choosing. Acura will allow customers to build the new NSX online, and submit to a dealership that you choose for delivery - presumably MSRP also.

I know many states do not allow direct auto purchasing similar to the Tesla business model. The approach that Volvo and Acura have taken seems to be a good compromise for the purchaser. I guess some can argue it is not good for the dealership :-)
 

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You did the right thing on buying the Raptor out of your area. I think you could do the same with buying a Shelby GT350. I don't think there will be enough Shelby GT350Rs for that option to work. I think the dealerships will have a distinct advantage when it comes to the GT350R. They will be much more limited in number and the collectors will be out in force for them. If you are not a collector and not a serious track enthusiast I suggest you take a second look at the GT350 and you will be more likely to get one at MSRP or less. Good luck with your search.
 

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You did the right thing on buying the Raptor out of your area. I think you could do the same with buying a Shelby GT350. I don't think there will be enough Shelby GT350Rs for that option to work. I think the dealerships will have a distinct advantage when it comes to the GT350R. They will be much more limited in number and the collectors will be out in force for them. If you are not a collector and not a serious track enthusiast I suggest you take a second look at the GT350 and you will be more likely to get one at MSRP or less. Good luck with your search.
Thanks for the info, mustang_luckers. I agree another out-of-town trip will most likely be needed for a GT350/GT350R at MSRP. I wouldn't consider myself a collector, but more of a performance/sport vehicle enthusiast. I track cars and motorbikes several times a year, and that is the primary reason a GT350 checked all the boxes for me.
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