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What should be said is that it's their right to ask for it and it's your right to go to another dealer. Pretty simple choice and not all the argument needed.
Its also my right to have the option to buy directly from the Manufacturer and say bite me to the dealerships all together.
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What should be said is that it's their right to ask for it and it's your right to go to another dealer. Pretty simple choice and not all the argument needed.
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As it is right now...that's the only option any interested buyer has... just walk away and try somewhere else.

Just a thought here MKW...if you really like the idea of just handing over your money ( I'm guessing that's not your style) but if anyone just wants to give away their money like paying an ADM...

I'll gladly accept your payment for nothing in return for it. See how that concept works.
 

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Its also my right to have the option to buy directly from the Manufacturer and say bite me to the dealerships all together.

Unfortunately a high volume manufacturer like Ford, Chevy, etc. this is going to be some way off. To be frank even dealers today are order takers. Its just unfortunate when a car comes around that will have an increase in perceived demand you will have some dealers trying to maximize their profits. I don't have any issues with this to be frank. I also don't see buying directly from the manufacturer to be the answer to this, in fact this could come back and bite you in the ass, especially when cars are now being let go below invoice after a few months of the car being released. Ford is going to build a lot of GT350s, make no doubt and anyone who wants one will be able to get one.

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I would be this guy:

http://www.frederickscatpack.com

He gets it. He's sold so many performance Challengers over the years and is the go to guy nationwide for Hellcats and other SRT vehicles.

These Ford guys could be absolutely killing it like this guy. I understand Shelby's are limited but the GT's and other Fords aren't. Social media, forums, word of mouth etc. They leave so much on the table by playing small ball.
Sent this to management thanks for the link. It also helps he is a graduate of Northwood University like me and my direct managers!
 

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Sent this to management thanks for the link. It also helps he is a graduate of Northwood University like me and my direct managers!
It would be great to see you adapt his activities into your sales model...:thumbsup:
 

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It would be great to see you adapt his activities into your sales model...:thumbsup:
as an enthusiast and as a sales person I agree with a lot of what is being said here. Mainly about the special customer service and professionalism that goes into selling higher end vehicles. I also do understand why dealers charge ADM especially if it's a one off car like an LE that a dealer may only get one of ever. However for vehicles especially the shelbys I would like to sell as many of those as possible and establish a relationship with enthusiasts simply because they tend to be loyal customers they also tend to be more vocal about a good experience at a dealership which means more customers for me.
 

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Unfortunately a high volume manufacturer like Ford, Chevy, etc. this is going to be some way off. To be frank even dealers today are order takers. Its just unfortunate when a car comes around that will have an increase in perceived demand you will have some dealers trying to maximize their profits. I don't have any issues with this to be frank. I also don't see buying directly from the manufacturer to be the answer to this, in fact this could come back and bite you in the ass, especially when cars are now being let go below invoice after a few months of the car being released. Ford is going to build a lot of GT350s, make no doubt and anyone who wants one will be able to get one.

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You're assuming that in a direct buy model...the buyer would not benefit from the same type of manufaturer to dealer incentives a dealership benefits from...and that Ford would not lower prices to factory invoice on end of year models.
Tesla does. And simply put...it's as effective as any manufacturer could wish for.
Simply put, your theory would not weigh in as a factor in the real world. Manufacturers want to sell their products.

Add to this how building to order benefits a company by not over saturating the inventory. In the end keeping costs down and in the end transferring To the buyer still yet in additional savings.

There are simply more positive here than negative.
 

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Dealerships and Service don't necessarily operate under the same umbrella. ( The majority do) One often doesn't know what the other is doing. An authorized service center is not part of a bad business model. It can stand on its own.

You're basically calling manufacturer's like" Apple", which is as American as apple pie, socialist in their business model. Absolutely, if you disagree with their business model, you cannot sell their product. You have to sell at their price no matter what your local economy is.

Tesla is succeeding much to your disappointment. (If you call losing 30% of their value the last 4 months succeeding, I have some stock for you) They are successful and selling. And guess what, they also contribute to a used car market (all 19 available today,above retail BTW)and rentals ( I can find and rent a Porsche easier than a Tesla) which can then resell these vehicles at whatever they want in the American non-socialist way you're eluding to That should satisfy your need to get screwed over by a dealer.

And BTW...they make a great American car. (Talk to me when they are selling a million units) Oh well I guess free thinking that they can offer the buying public a better buying experience by selling directly is just so un-American. You can think all you want about what Ford should do or any other business, but it's not your business. If Ford thought they could do it your way they would (Oh short history lesson, they tried when they owned their own dealerships, didn't work so well, far more profitable to just be a manufacturer)

The competition is already established between the different manufacturers. The freedom of choice is already there. The freedom to buy things at a fair price is what the socialist minded dealerships are taking away from you (nope, they will sell you Edges, Fusions, Escapes, 150's at bargain prices today). If you want to embrace inflated costs when we've already established that MSRP was designed to make the dealers money (Wow, and have you thought that out? What about the 95% of sales below MSRP?) and that they still make money even after they pay their dealer cost for that vehicle then you have every right to seek out a dealer and walk to the center of the selling floor ....pull down your pant past your knees, grab your ankles and announce to your audience I'm READY come and screw me please.

You have every right to do so in the American way of course.
I guess economics wasn't your strong suit, nor are you a business owner.
 

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Just in time ordering is huge in decreasing overhead. Ford knows this which is why they know what their month's supply is for any model on the dealer lots. They try to run as lean as they can but because of the archaic way of the dealership model, having inventory etc it continues for now, but pressure is mounting. If Tesla was a direct competitor to Ford, GM or anyone else as large, their sales were at their level and they were losing market share... there sure as hell would be a change.

I believe it will happen eventually. Buying a domestic car in the US ranks up there with getting a root canal lol. When it does happen there will be a substantial availability of land, much of it urban. Dealerships are a waste of space that can be better utilized in dense environs. Most city governments see dealerships as tremendous eye sores as well. This is why we have auto malls in many areas now.
 

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It would be great if we could all be in a room at the same time. Can you imagine what it would be like? :lol::frusty::shrug::eyebulge::doh::headbonk::ford::cheers:
 

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Just in time ordering is huge in decreasing overhead. Ford knows this which is why they know what their month's supply is for any model on the dealer lots. But because of the archaic way of the dealership model, having inventory etc it continues for now, but pressure is mounting. If Tesla was a direct competitor to Ford, GM or anyone else as large, their sales were at their level and they were losing market share... there sure as hell would be a change.

I believe it will happen eventually. Buying a domestic car in the US ranks up there with getting a root canal lol. When it does happen there will be a substantial availability of land, much of it urban. Dealerships are a waste of space that can be better utilized in dense environs. Most city governments see dealerships as tremendous eye sores as well. This is why we have auto malls in many areas now.
In a very simple system, JIT is very productive, but when you have over 10 thousand suppliers, it becomes a nightmare, If you and everyone would except getting a vehicle 6 months after your order, this would be very doable and I'm sure the big three would be elated. The problem is, we have to have everything now, so something has to give.
 
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