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DFB's OVER & UNDER 2026

The following is list 5 overrated and 5 underrated detailing products on the market in 2026. Depending on how you see it, this could also be a do and don't buy list, or just a jaded detailer having a rant. I'll leave that up to you.

OVERRATTED –

Bilt Hamber Trace-less –


I’m not going to fully document my struggles with this product, but this is easily the most disappointing detailing product I have tried. After hearing all the hype, how this was the greatest glass cleaner ever made, when it finally arrived in Australia I bought the large 5-litre bottle, I was that confident.

And on first acquaintance, Trace-less is certainly a wow product, namely how quickly it flashes. Afterwards, you assume its left a perfectly clear glass surface. But then you notice light ghost marks in certain light, then you drive into the sun and you see all of the wipe marks. So………….Trace-less is NOT traceless. And trust me, I tried everything to make this product work, be that different towels, different application methods, different temperatures. Nope, it streaks.

My big problem with Trace-less is the dream I was sold at a considerable price, then having it completely fall well below its promise.............................it’s not actually "traceless". Maybe I expected too much? Maybe I'm too critical? Maybe I see what others don't? Maybe I've tried and compared to many products and brands? All I know is that I'm not the only one who has had trouble with Traceless, be that in AU or the USA.

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McKee’s N-914 -

Several years ago, N-914 became the MUST HAVE rinse-less wash product. At the time, it was marketed as a product that “left nothing behind”, something certain people though was important. Compared to something like the polymer-based Optimum No Rinse (ONR), N-914 is surfactant based. Some of the early ONR competitors were simply watered down soaps (surfactants), however N-914 wasn’t and that’s where it gained a foothold over the former benchmark, ONR. But that notion of “leaving nothing behind” is flawed, especially how hybrid products with Si02 have become so popular, or the fact people would then go and spray a ceramic-spray sealant all of the car and called it a “drying aid”. Can you see where I find the nothing behind thing ridiculous?

To be fair to McKee’s, N-914 is a nice product. But I don’t think it's markedly better than the competition to warrant the hype, then or now. I found it lacking slickness, to me it had a sticky surfactant feel under the wash media. And despite the claims, you ARE leaving something behind, its simply unavoidable unless you follow with a prep spray or rinse the car afterwards (which defeats the purpose of a “rinse-less” wash).

The funny thing is, I’m seeing multiple suppliers drop the product from their stores.

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Koch Chemie GUF –

This is another product that came to market with lofty claims. GUF is a dedicated dressing/protectant for rubber floor mats, one that doesn’t create a slip hazard. As far as I can tell, it’s the only product of its type. So, as soon as it became available in Australia, I ordered a bottle.

Prior to application, you clean the floor mat as usual, then dry. From here, you liberally mist with the product and then level with a towel. GUF has a strong solvent/alcohol aroma, which would explain why it flashes off the way it does. And yet, I can never really see an enhancement after using GUF……………which to me is a complete waste of time and money. And because of that IPA content, I’ve had it kill spray heads.

For rubber floor mats, I have much better luck using a product like P&S Swift, which contains a very mild dressing, so mild it doesn’t cause slipperiness. But at least you can see an improvement.

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Koch Chemie Motorplast -

This will be a controversial one, simply because everyone seems to like Motorplast. This product was designed for easily dressing an enhancing engine bays, of which can be applied to a freshly cleaned and still wet surface. Koch Chemie would have you believe that this self-leveling wet application is unique to Motorplast………………but it isn’t, Meguiar’s and other companies have offered something similar for decades.

So why don’t I love this product. Look, its super easy to apply, smells nice, levels off well. But its too glossy for my taste. In theory, you’d just dilute it down………….which defeats the purpose of buying a RTU product. No, something like Megs Hyper Dressing does this task just as well, if not more so than Motorplast, and can be tailored to your taste. For the record, Hyper Dressing at 5:1 (4:1 is considered “natural”, so I go even further than recommended) is my preferred engine bay dressing for a “barely there” look.

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P&S Pearl -

Right, so this one is probably relevant to a specific buyer type. On face value, Pearl looks like a screaming deal, easily one of the cheapest high-volume soaps on the market, and one that’s made by an industry favourite. As such, it’s sold as a value proposition, in theory ideal for professional use or those who want their money to go further. For example, 946ml sells for $29.95 ($14 USD), 1-gallon is $57.95 ($26 USD), and 5-gallon is $190.95 ($86.40 USD). But dig a little deeper and that value prospect is flawed.

Pearl is poorly concentrated, which means using 2 to 3 times more soap per application. And even then, it doesn’t foam or provide meaningful suds, lacks slickness, so-so cleaning ability, and the mild lemon scent is desperately dated. What annoys me most is how P&S claim Pearl is a “high foaming shampoo”………………..it’s not even close to that claim, no matter the dilution.

So even if Pearl was more concentrated, it still sucks to use. And that’s not “value” in my book. And those who do, well they obviously failed maths at school.

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Dishonorable Mentions -

- The entire Labocosmetic brand, sexy bottles with a sexy Italian accent, but waaay too complicated.

- Sonax Perfect Finish, laced with fillers to mask the less than perfect finish it leaves behind.

- Gtechniq CSL + EXO coating combination, a so-so base coating that needs another coating to make it slick and hydrophobic, in turn doubling the price to coat your car.

UNDERRATED -

Armour Detail Supply Adapt –


This might be a surprise to have an ADS product listed here, mainly because the brand has rapidly grown to be an industry benchmark. And yet so many sleep on Adapt, which is actually one of my favourites from ADS. I think being classified as a “water-less wash” boxes Adapt into a corner and turns buyers away.

I absolutely love Adapt as a drying aid, the added lubrication for safe water-less washing proves useful here too. It’s great on door jambs and light interior dusting or cleaning gloss trims. I also think Adapt smells nicer than Amplify, and has a slicker feel under the towel.

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Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer –

Also sold in the Detailer range as M799 Pro Ceramic Bead Booster, this is a product that I’ve loved using over the years. And yet it doesn’t really get mentioned. And that's a shame because it really is a great product, super easy to work with, available everywhere.

In my case, I use HCD as a drying aid, which provides excellent gloss and slickness with minimal effort required. It’s only failing is the dated fragrance, and the price at full retail. Great product shunned by the brand snobs, which included me before I decided to give it a shot.

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Opti-Coat No Rinse –

I believe this is the most underrated rinse-less wash product on the market. In recent years, Si02 infused rinse-less washes have become increasingly popular, and yet Opti-Coat No Rinse has existed long before this fad took off. As with the rest of the Opti-Coat Maintenance Line, this yellow version of Optimum No Rinse was designed to maintain Opti-Coat ceramic coatings, although you can use it on any LSP. I love the slickness of this product, both under the wash media and the final result, and I prefer the mango scent compared to blue ONR.

There are three reasons why Opti-No Rinse isn’t more popular. Firstly, up until recently you could only buy the maintenance line from Opti-Coat installers, usually sold as an add on sale to a professionally applied coating. Secondly, its only available in a small 473ml bottle. And thirdly, its more expensive, which relates to lack of a bulk quantity bottle size. Still, I really enjoying using this product, its waaay better than some of the more popular options on the market.

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Carpro Reload 2.0 –

Reload was one of the first ceramic spray sealants to hit the market. Like any new and pioneering product, there were some peculiarities with Reload. What many don’t know is how Carpro subtly updated the formula over time, which addressed some of the application quirks. And with the latest Reload 2.0, it’s a night and day difference to the original. And yet, people completely sidestep Reload because someone somewhere once had it be a little streaky. Then there is the supposed lack of durability. I think people expect too much from a spray and wipe product like this, especially those who are hammering down with alkaline pre-wash soaps, then wondering why a sealant doesn’t last long enough.

Reload 2.0 fixed the application quirks, boosted the longevity, while remaining one of the slickest and glossiest spray sealants available. I also love Reload on trim, it producing subtle but long-lasting enhancement and protection without the potential risks that come with a ceramic coating on these surfaces. And I say long lasting because it takes the same effort to apply as a trim dressing, but won't wash off in the rain or at the next wash. And while Reload isn’t as hydrophobic as a full ceramic coating, it’s hardly a disappointment in that department.

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Gtechniq Tri-Clean –

Most of what I’ve tried from this brand has been average at best, Tri-Clean is different. In response to the Covid pandemic, Tri-Clean was developed in conjunction with Biocote®, who are said to be a leader in anti-bacterial technology. As the name suggests, Tri-Clean does three things –

- Provide strong cleaning ability
- Provide disinfectant and anti-microbial properties
- Provide odour-absorbing properties that eliminate rather than cover up odours

Tri-Clean is pH neutral, meaning it can be safely used on all interior surfaces, including leather and Alcantara. I like the way this product wipes on, then flashes away to clean, non-greasy residue free finish. The only thing I don’t like about Tri-Clean is the Pine O Clean/Lysol-like scent, it is a disinfectant after all.

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Honorable Mentions -

- Opti-Coat M-Wash, such an amazing soap that no one talks about. Expensive though.

- Optimum Power Wheel & Tire Cleaner, extremely capable, well above some the go-to's in this class.

- Opti-coat Clean & Protect, unlike similar products, this one actually delivers streak free results.
Agreed about Pearl. Totally underwhelming. And GUF, on some mats it is very ineffective, the Mustang All weather mats, no good. I have found on Weathertechs it does leave a nice finish, albeit very short lived... And Motorplast, it looks great, for about 3 days :) then it attracts dust like crazy. I only use it once in a while now... Never tried McKees or Traceless, I do have DIY rinseless V2, it works OK for what it is.
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DFB's OVER & UNDER 2026

The following is list 5 overrated and 5 underrated detailing products on the market in 2026. Depending on how you see it, this could also be a do and don't buy list, or just a jaded detailer having a rant. I'll leave that up to you.

OVERRATTED –

Bilt Hamber Trace-less –


I’m not going to fully document my struggles with this product, but this is easily the most disappointing detailing product I have tried. After hearing all the hype, how this was the greatest glass cleaner ever made, when it finally arrived in Australia I bought the large 5-litre bottle, I was that confident.

And on first acquaintance, Trace-less is certainly a wow product, namely how quickly it flashes. Afterwards, you assume its left a perfectly clear glass surface. But then you notice light ghost marks in certain light, then you drive into the sun and you see all of the wipe marks. So………….Trace-less is NOT traceless. And trust me, I tried everything to make this product work, be that different towels, different application methods, different temperatures. Nope, it streaks.

My big problem with Trace-less is the dream I was sold at a considerable price, then having it completely fall well below its promise.............................it’s not actually "traceless". Maybe I expected too much? Maybe I'm too critical? Maybe I see what others don't? Maybe I've tried and compared to many products and brands? All I know is that I'm not the only one who has had trouble with Traceless, be that in AU or the USA.
For the life of me I cannot fathom how Trace-less doesn’t work for you. I use it and swear by it. I have heard that climate might impact its use but here in Florida we get everything from dry winters to hot and humid summers and it’s worked every time for me. Is it possible you got a bad batch?

Now, Stoners Invisible Glass….that one is hit or miss for me.
 

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For the life of me I cannot fathom how Trace-less doesn’t work for you. I use it and swear by it. I have heard that climate might impact its use but here in Florida we get everything from dry winters to hot and humid summers and it’s worked every time for me. Is it possible you got a bad batch?

Now, Stoners Invisible Glass….that one is hit or miss for me.
P&S Tru Vue for me. Mixed from a gallon at 4:1. That stuff is amazing. I haven't tried Traceless though, probably won't since my gallon will make at least 4 gallons which should last me the rest of my lifetime. Touchless is amazing though, I love that stuff.
 

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While we are talking about foam cannons, it's nice to see some true innovation appearing with foam cannons rather than everyone just copying the MTM.

For anyone following The Rag Company's TRCMA, iK unveiled their new foam cannon today. This looks to be the real deal, following the same thoughtfulness that their other products bring to the table. In keeping with the brand, it follows the same black and white theme.

The iK segment starts from 4hr mark, foam cannon from 4hr 50min -



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Then there's the new TRC Ultra range of pressure washer tools, including a ground-up new foam cannon. This fixes a lot of crappy features of the MTM and other foam cannons.
 

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While we are talking about foam cannons, it's nice to see some true innovation appearing with foam cannons rather than everyone just copying the MTM.

For anyone following The Rag Company's TRCMA, iK unveiled their new foam cannon today. This looks to be the real deal, following the same thoughtfulness that their other products bring to the table. In keeping with the brand, it follows the same black and white theme.

The iK segment starts from 4hr mark, foam cannon from 4hr 50min -



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Then there's the new TRC Ultra range of pressure washer tools, including a ground-up new foam cannon. This fixes a lot of crappy features of the MTM and other foam cannons.
I’ve been watching the live stream and I was thinking “I don’t need more cannons….but I WANT more cannons” 🤣
 
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The Jaaaaaaaaag is back for another visit.

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These are the key reasons why I love this car -

Styling - In 2026, the XE sedan probably looks bland. Being an 11-year-old design and compared to some of what passes as "design" today, well I guess that statement is true. But in my opinion, the restraint, carefully profiled lines, and the loooong hood and stubby tail are what make the XE for me. In a recent interview, former Jaguar chief designer Ian Callum condemned the direction some car companies are going in the name of "styling".

"...............I look a lot of the stuff at the moment, and I really worry there is a lack of elegance with these cars.................."

He also said the following -

"...............Jaguar's need to be beautiful............"

100%

Interior - Again, in 2026 this interior is probably too bland, even back in 2015 the media complained about it.................the same media who condemned the over-complicated BMW user interface. So which is it guys?

In the black on black combo, I can see where they were coming from. However, there were several alternative interior combinations that really lifted the ambiance, creating contrast and highlighting certain design elements. Depending on trim level, the buyer could select from several combinations of leather, carpet, headliner and trim inlay options. This car has the Latte leather with Ebony stitch, Latter and Ebony lower/upper environments, Ebony carpet, and Gloss Figured Ebony wood grain trims.

I also love the base instrument cluster with its deeply hooded circular dial binnacles, something I was hoping Ford would have done for the FG Falcon.

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Gearbox - This ZF 8-speed automatic gearbox is the best on the market. Unlike a DCT, this can shift smoothly in ALL conditions with no resentment for low speed, take offs and steep inclines. But the smoothness isn't accompanied by that slushy, disconnected feel of a CVT. Then put the hammer down and it shifts quickly with a reassuring firmness, and rev matches beautifully going down the box with the paddles. Put it in S mode without the paddles and it takes on a new dimension, running right out to red line and downshifting aggressively under braking. It's so far ahead of the Ford 10-speed that its almost embarrassing. And while not unique to the XE, I really like the circular gear selector dial, far more intuitive than the stupid systems BMW, Volvo and others have gone with.

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Meridian Sound - Probably not the best audio system, but it sounds good to me and I'm VERY particular in that department. Crank it up and there is plenty of bass without becoming "muddy" or losing crispness. Oh, and it doesn't cause the whole car to rattle like some of my other cars.

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Chassis & Steering - The chassis dynamics are probably the XE's signature. It's almost hard to describe, you can feel how light the car is, meaning it's super responsive and does what you tell it to do, but at the same time it has this planted, rock-solid feel. That's the result of an aluminium body, paired with heavy duty suspension components, all made in hefty aluminium. Even the strut towers are cast aluminium, not stamped steel. The steering in particular is amazing, probably too light for some, but to me it has that lovely "pointy" feel that made the AU Falcon's so nice to drive. Punting the car hard, I always feel as if there is still something left in the table, whereas the Mustang and Falcon's are all over the shop with body roll, pitch and dive, wheel spin, and understeer.

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It's funny, in that same interview with Ian Callum, he was critical of the direction Jaguar took during this era. In pursuing the Germans, BMW in particular, Jaguar sort of lost some of their aura, in turn losing their old customer base. The new customer base Jaguar was aiming for had issues with the brands prior reputation, be that reliability or the "pipe and slippers set". So even though this XE was the superior "ultimate driving machine", no one knew put it on their shopping list. A true shame because the XE and XF were amazing cars.
 

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Next on my list is rebuilding and restoring a Kranzle I retired from one of my shops - I think it saw 5000 washes without an oil change, it also fell off the shelf, broke the gauge and bent the fan cover. So I gave it an oil change, a new microswitch for the shutoff and a thorough cleaning of the unloader valve. I'm going to acid wash the aluminum body and replace my Karcher with it. This unit has outlasted all the other brands I've tried(no surprise) but it deserved the retirement. Cannot recommend Kranzle enough - there were days we would send 40-50 cars thru the wash bay and it just put up with it.
Finally got the resto-Kranzle mounted. Parts were surprisingly cheap for it - the Kranzle spec oil is NOT however.
Acid washed the body and coated all the plastics and rubber with Reload 2.0. Bought the OG hold down clamps and 90* GHF adapter. It won't see 5000 more washes but it will enjoy some light duty.

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The Jaaaaaaaaag is back for another visit.

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This body shape is delightful. Never ceases to catch my eye and hold attention. And the range of interior options exquisite.

I'd buy a Jaaaaaag like this one for the reason that it has audio 'Dither Shaping' alone. And digital no less. I need all the help I can get deciding whether to listen to AC/DC or Led Zepp:giggle:

The S model was a cracking combo but I do so wish they produced one with a V8 like the E92 M3. Not necessarily as radical as the Project 8 but something that put it into 4.5 sec territory and revved.
 
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This body shape is delightful. Never ceases to catch my eye and hold attention. And the range of interior options exquisite.
Sitting in the car, it feels massive and compact all at once. Massive because of how that hood stretches out in front of you. But compact because of the low seating position and how the cabin wraps around you. It's absolutely magic.

The interior options were slashed after the refresh, limiting production line complexity post Covid became a car industry norm. Yes sir, you can have black, black on black, or black on black on black. Which would you like. Errr, Black?

I'd buy a Jaaaaaag like this one for the reason that it has audio 'Dither Shaping' alone. And digital no less. I need all the help I can get deciding whether to listen to AC/DC or Led Zepp:giggle:
Dither? That could only have come from the Brits. :giggle:

Well, the "Dithering" seems to work.

The S model was a cracking combo but I do so wish they produced one with a V8 like the E92 M3. Not necessarily as radical as the Project 8 but something that put it into 4.5 sec territory and revved.
I just wish this one was at least the 25t, which used the same EcoBoost engine Ford put in the Falcon, 177 kW / 340 Nm. The S with the supercharged V6 was a bit of a sleeper. They had the V6 V8.........................as in it was the V8 with the two rear cylinders blanked off. There was this notion that the V6 F-Types steered better because of the lower weight, well it wasn't as pronounced as it could have been because the block castings were virtually the same footprint.

They were soooo close to making a M3 competitor with the XE, the car at its core was good enough. Jaguar has to meet the same chassis strength standards set for Landrover, think curb strike and impact strength. When you look at the suspension arms on even this lowly 200 hp model, they are super beefy, waaay over engineered.

JLR returned to inline 6's, it would have been an absolute no brainer from a heritage point of view to put that in Jaguar sedans and the F-Type. Just think, a 370-kw (500hp) turbo inline 6 and 8-speed in a lightweight compact sedan, it would have smashed the M3 which is far too big and heavy now. Instead, the held back.
 
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Wash day for the Jaaaaaaaag.

Having sat in storage uncovered for a few weeks, it was super dusty. Both the wheels and body were cleaned with Reset, Amplify the drying aid, interior via Pilot, glass done with Eraser.

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For the tyres, these were initially scrubbed with Wise Guy, followed by a pass with Eulex. I then applied two layers of Ghost.

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These are the factory fitted Dunlop Sport Maxx RT from 2015, which really need replacing even with only 15,000km on them. Ideally, I'd put Michelin Pilot Sport 5 on the car, or maybe Continental Sportcontact 7.
 
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Easter Musical Cars continues.........................

Mustang was given it's first wash in months.

Washing -
Tyres- Shine Supply Wise Guy
Wheels - Brake Buster (foamed) + Hydr02
Rotors - Atom Mac

Details -
Paint - Carpro Reset
Drying Aid - ADS Amplify (paint, exhaust tips, door jambs, engine bay)
Glass - Rupes Reveal Lite (so good)
Wheels - ADS Amplify
Tyres - OG Tire Dressing
Black Trim - Carpro Reload 2.0

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From there, Mustang swapped places with Old Blue, back under its cover. Then the Ranger came back home, Jag back into storage.

That all means my long weekend is done with, back to work tomorrow.

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