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GS is good stuff. You might try Carpro MultiX. It works really well, or Gyeon APC. I have used both of those and they work awesome. Just cost a few more dollars, here in the US at least...

Also, I skipped GSF and GS mix and moved straight to Multi Star, here in the US it's called MSN, but outside the US it's VB. It makes a fantastic pre soak, much stronger than GS and GSF mix. I use for wheel arches in my IK foamer and its fantastic...
Last time I soaked something with VB, it was probably all over me, and I most likely had too much anyway!

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Last time I soaked something with VB, it was probably all over me, and I most likely had too much anyway!

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Well I never heard of that one LOL. This is what I was referring to :)

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Well I never heard of that one LOL.
SB, VB has been a classic Aussie beer icon for many decades, usually pitched towards the working class. The theme is instantly recognizable.

Can't help but cringe looking back on the 80's.





The theme has been modernised over time, but this would remain the cleverest:



You've just been schooled in some Aussie beer history! 🍺


I'm expecting a delivery of CP Reset, Lift and some Darkside tomorrow, and yes, correct VB here down under.

Waaay too many products in this space. :crazy:
 
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Green Star seems to be unobtainium here in Oz at the moment, at least in the smaller quantities.

I've had a 1L bottle on order for six weeks now from carcareproducts. Other Aussie vendors remain out of stock as well, so perhaps this is a widespread supply problem at the moment?

I am keen to try GS as an additive to GSF.
Not sure why its out of stock, even Koch Chemie Aust. don't list it as available. I will say, Green Star has basically become the go-to APC in recent years, so everyone wants it.

At this point, you could order it off Amazon at considerable markup -
Koch Chemie Green Star Universal Cleaner: Automotive: Amazon.com.au

I would probably buy a small bottle of something else to tide you over. I don't really use a lot of APC, I'm still on my original bottle from way back. I say that as I have only used Meguiar's Multi-Purpose Cleaner (which is prediluted D101), Auto Finesse Verso (terrible product, no longer available), Bilt Hamber Surfex and Green Star.

I know Sandro likes Carpro Multi-X, which seems to be a very effective product and something I would have bought if GS wasn't available. I'd probably use it at 10:1.
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Power Clean is another that seems to get mentioned a lot by the TRC guys. It's pretty potent though, so be careful with your dilutions.
Optimum Power Clean APC Concentrate - Car Stain Remover (detailingshed.com.au)

 
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Another "weekend" off, another selection of products to work through.

Continuing the Armour Detail Supply theme of recent weeks, today I sampled their Tire Cleaner.

ARMOUR Detail Supply Tire Cleaner (detailingshed.com.au)
Armour Detail Supply Tyre Cleaner (autobuff.com.au)

The ADS Tire Cleaner was already out of stock at Detailing Shed when I placed my order. Needing to order something from AutoBuff, I added the RTU version to make up the shipping. This product comes in either a 473ml (16oz) RTU, or via a gallon of concentrate for dilution at the following ratios..............

Recommended Dilution Ratios For Concentrate(Dilute To Desired Strength):

1:1 - Extreme Duty Tire Cleaning (Proceed with Caution)

2:1 - Heavy Tire Cleaning, Engine Bay and Under Carriage Degreasing

4:1 - Maintenance Tire, Wheel, Engine Bay Cleaning, Wheel Well Cleaning, and Rubber/Plastic Matt Cleaning
Reading that, it seems this is a very potent product.

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Because of its high alkalinity and chemical make up, the RTU version of ADS Tire Cleaner comes in a different bottle to the rest of the line, being a solid black plastic rather than the domed transparent bottle. You will notice similar with other high alkaline products across the industry, think Carpro Multi-X and Lift, or Adam's Wheel & Tire Cleaner. First off, I like how this product foams up a little when sprayed. It then lathers nicely and had no issue stripping the dressing from the Ranger, the Jag's Dunlop's put up a fight, but that's normal for this tyre.

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Both the gallon of concentrate and RTU version are decent value, especially when considering a gallon could conceivably make up to 19-litres (5 gallon) of product at the 4:1 ratio, or about 11-litres (3 gallon) at 2:1. The same gallon quantity of Shine Supply Wise Guy would only make 7.6-litres (2 gallon) at the suggested 1:1 ratio. For further comparison, I would need to buy 5 gallon jugs of P&S Undressed to match quantity potential of the ADS product, which would work out to be $214.75 AUD compared to $112.95 AUD.

Moving along, I used ADS Hero to clean the rest of the Jag. I can safely say this is my favorite rinse-less wash now. It doesn't have the mixing quirks of Absolute, smells just as good and is even slicker under the towel as it passes across the paint. After the wash, I dried the car with the help of ADS Adapt.

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After attending to the glass, door jambs, engine bay and interior, I turned my attention to the tyres. These Dunlop Sport Maxx RT tyres seem to hang onto dressings, generally resisting tradition cleaning treatments. As such, I will occasionally break out the sledgehammer to reset them. This task can be done with mineral spirits, but Tarminator does the job better without drying out the rubber too much.

Stoner Tarminator Tar & Sap Remover 295ml (autobuff.com.au)

Speaking of Tarminator, its gotten harder to find this in Australia. Car Care Products advised me they would not be restocking it, and Detailing Shed have no intentions of bringing it into the store. It can be ordered from Amazon at considerable markup. Which leads me back to the AutoBuff order, they being the only Australian retailer selling Tarminator. AutoBuff actually offered me a discount on three bottles with cracked caps, which saved me some cash.

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I'm not sure how or why Tarminator excels as a tyre deep cleaner, but it does and the results speak for themselves. Never spray Tarminator onto the tyre, always into a throw-away towel. Rub the sidewall with firm pressure, reapplying more to the towel as needed. Allow to flash and the end result is a completely stripped sidewall.

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This is why you use a throw-away towel..........................

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Now that the tyres were bare, it was time to undo all that work by reapplying more dressing. :giggle: Today, I had a hankering for NV Onyx, a product that has been a favorite of mine from the moment I tried it many years ago. Applied with a brush, it spreads with such ease, accompanied by a delicious caramel scent. Onyx can be glossy but is best leveled down with a towel for a satin look.

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It was then onto the Ranger, it being lent to a family member to move furniture last week. This gave me a chance to try another soap in the que, 3D Ultimate Wash.

3D GLW Series Ultimate Wash Shampoo pH Neutral (detailingshed.com.au)

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Ultimate Wash is pH neutral and shares a similar thick-ish consistency to their Pink Car Soap. Unlike Pink, this Ultimate Wash produces much thicker foam and a subdued orange/mandarin scent. I also found it has decent slickness and rinsed freely. However, this is not a WOW product, while nice in several areas, it hardly excels at any of them. Not bad, but not great. I also hate the pop-top caps 3D uses, too much resistance to release the product, then spits back at you when the cap is pushed closed.

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As always, the finishing touch to any detail, dressing the tyres. This time, I used my new Obsessed Garage Tire Dressing Applicator Brush.

Obsessed Garage Tire Dressing Brush

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The OG Tire Dressing Applicator brush is a collaboration between OG and Detail Factory. This takes the bristles from the Curveball, slims them down and melds with a longer handle that has a rubberized grip with the OG logo. On first impression, this brush follows Detail Factory form in that its extremely well made, superbly ergonomic and features lovely soft bristles. However, I did have reservations as to if this brush would function well for tyre dressing purposes. And that sort of proved correct...................

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The bristles are just too long, meaning they splay out too much when working the sidewall. On larger profile rubber like my Ranger, this isn't really a problem. But on low profile tyres, you would need to work slowly and carefully to not smudge dressing onto the wheel. The way around that would be to squeeze the bristles tight, which would then cover your fingers with dressing. I started using a brush over foam applicators for tyre dressing because its cleaner and negates the need to wear gloves. Well, this brush contradicts that. For cleaning wheels or interiors, this brush would excel, but for tyres its quite ill-suited. A puzzling conclusion to an OG product.
 

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Dear Dr @DFB5.0,

I'm having terrible trouble accessing some of my bits, particularly the ones that fit into small spaces, with a suitable implement. I'm getting worried about the issues that might arise if my bits aren't fully maintained.

In particular, I'm talking about applying interior and exterior plastic protectant (eg 303, PolStar) to things such as air vent shutters, door window seal blades where they contact the glass, 3D shaped windscreen valances, and a myriad of other things with internal corners that a typical applicator pad simply can't cover as it's too chunky. I've tried using a small detailing brush such as those used for lug nut holes and that actually works ok but doesn't hold the product as well as I'd like. Next step is to try a foam paint applicator but I doubt it'll give me the same flexibility to access small corners that bristles do.

Just wondering how you apply product to your bits.

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Dear Dr @DFB5.0,

I'm having terrible trouble accessing some of my bits, particularly the ones that fit into small spaces, with a suitable implement. I'm getting worried about the issues that might arise if my bits aren't fully maintained.

In particular, I'm talking about applying interior and exterior plastic protectant (eg 303, PolStar) to things such as air vent shutters, door window seal blades where they contact the glass, 3D shaped windscreen valances, and a myriad of other things with internal corners that a typical applicator pad simply can't cover as it's too chunky. I've tried using a small detailing brush such as those used for lug nut holes and that actually works ok but doesn't hold the product as well as I'd like. Next step is to try a foam paint applicator but I doubt it'll give me the same flexibility to access small corners that bristles do.

Just wondering how you apply product to your bits.

Signed,

L. Ayiton-Thick
Applying product to your bits can be a sticky situation, so I sympathize with you....................................... :giggle:

If you are using a boars hair brush, which typically have a stiffer bristle, you might swap to a soft synthetic version and see how you go.

Detail Factory Ultra-Soft Detailing Brush Long Handle 24cm (detailingshed.com.au)

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For air vents, you could also try using compressed air. As in, mist a small amount of dressing onto the vent, then use the air to distribute it. Hold a towel in your hand around the surrounding area to avoid splatter. Just be careful doing this around switches, you don't want to drive that into electrical connections.

I guess you could also try this on the rubber seals too, naturally do it before cleaning the glass though. Other than that, it's a matter of using a towel or microfiber applicator. With the towel, you would wrap it around your finger, saturate that spot with product, then wipe your towel clad finger across the rubber trim or seal.

This is a super obsessive level detailing by the way. :wink:
 

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Another "weekend" off, another selection of products to work through.

Continuing the Armour Detail Supply theme of recent weeks, today I sampled their Tire Cleaner.

ARMOUR Detail Supply Tire Cleaner (detailingshed.com.au)
Armour Detail Supply Tyre Cleaner (autobuff.com.au)

The ADS Tire Cleaner was already out of stock at Detailing Shed when I placed my order. Needing to order something from AutoBuff, I added the RTU version to make up the shipping. This product comes in either a 473ml (16oz) RTU, or via a gallon of concentrate for dilution at the following ratios..............



Reading that, it seems this is a very potent product.

IMG-0912.jpg


Because of its high alkalinity and chemical make up, the RTU version of ADS Tire Cleaner comes in a different bottle to the rest of the line, being a solid black plastic rather than the domed transparent bottle. You will notice similar with other high alkaline products across the industry, think Carpro Multi-X and Lift, or Adam's Wheel & Tire Cleaner. First off, I like how this product foams up a little when sprayed. It then lathers nicely and had no issue stripping the dressing from the Ranger, the Jag's Dunlop's put up a fight, but that's normal for this tyre.

IMG-0914.jpg


Both the gallon of concentrate and RTU version are decent value, especially when considering a gallon could conceivably make up to 19-litres (5 gallon) of product at the 4:1 ratio, or about 11-litres (3 gallon) at 2:1. The same gallon quantity of Shine Supply Wise Guy would only make 7.6-litres (2 gallon) at the suggested 1:1 ratio. For further comparison, I would need to buy 5 gallon jugs of P&S Undressed to match quantity potential of the ADS product, which would work out to be $214.75 AUD compared to $112.95 AUD.

Moving along, I used ADS Hero to clean the rest of the Jag. I can safely say this is my favorite rinse-less wash now. It doesn't have the mixing quirks of Absolute, smells just as good and is even slicker under the towel as it passes across the paint. After the wash, I dried the car with the help of ADS Adapt.

IMG-0921.jpg


After attending to the glass, door jambs, engine bay and interior, I turned my attention to the tyres. These Dunlop Sport Maxx RT tyres seem to hang onto dressings, generally resisting tradition cleaning treatments. As such, I will occasionally break out the sledgehammer to reset them. This task can be done with mineral spirits, but Tarminator does the job better without drying out the rubber too much.

Stoner Tarminator Tar & Sap Remover 295ml (autobuff.com.au)

Speaking of Tarminator, its gotten harder to find this in Australia. Car Care Products advised me they would not be restocking it, and Detailing Shed have no intentions of bringing it into the store. It can be ordered from Amazon at considerable markup. Which leads me back to the AutoBuff order, they being the only Australian retailer selling Tarminator. AutoBuff actually offered me a discount on three bottles with cracked caps, which saved me some cash.

IMG-0923.jpg


I'm not sure how or why Tarminator excels as a tyre deep cleaner, but it does and the results speak for themselves. Never spray Tarminator onto the tyre, always into a throw-away towel. Rub the sidewall with firm pressure, reapplying more to the towel as needed. Allow to flash and the end result is a completely stripped sidewall.

IMG-0937.jpg


This is why you use a throw-away towel..........................

IMG-0932.jpg


Now that the tyres were bare, it was time to undo all that work by reapplying more dressing. :giggle: Today, I had a hankering for NV Onyx, a product that has been a favorite of mine from the moment I tried it many years ago. Applied with a brush, it spreads with such ease, accompanied by a delicious caramel scent. Onyx can be glossy but is best leveled down with a towel for a satin look.

IMG-0948.jpg


IMG-0944.jpg


It was then onto the Ranger, it being lent to a family member to move furniture last week. This gave me a chance to try another soap in the que, 3D Ultimate Wash.

3D GLW Series Ultimate Wash Shampoo pH Neutral (detailingshed.com.au)

IMG-0974.jpg


Ultimate Wash is pH neutral and shares a similar thick-ish consistency to their Pink Car Soap. Unlike Pink, this Ultimate Wash produces much thicker foam and a subdued orange/mandarin scent. I also found it has decent slickness and rinsed freely. However, this is not a WOW product, while nice in several areas, it hardly excels at any of them. Not bad, but not great. I also hate the pop-top caps 3D uses, too much resistance to release the product, then spits back at you when the cap is pushed closed.

IMG-0955.jpg


As always, the finishing touch to any detail, dressing the tyres. This time, I used my new Obsessed Garage Tire Dressing Applicator Brush.

Obsessed Garage Tire Dressing Brush

IMG-0881.jpg


IMG-0875.jpg


IMG-0960.jpg


The OG Tire Dressing Applicator brush is a collaboration between OG and Detail Factory. This takes the bristles from the Curveball, slims them down and melds with a longer handle that has a rubberized grip with the OG logo. On first impression, this brush follows Detail Factory form in that its extremely well made, superbly ergonomic and features lovely soft bristles. However, I did have reservations as to if this brush would function well for tyre dressing purposes. And that sort of proved correct...................

IMG-0965.jpg


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IMG-0973.jpg


The bristles are just too long, meaning they splay out too much when working the sidewall. On larger profile rubber like my Ranger, this isn't really a problem. But on low profile tyres, you would need to work slowly and carefully to not smudge dressing onto the wheel. The way around that would be to squeeze the bristles tight, which would then cover your fingers with dressing. I started using a brush over foam applicators for tyre dressing because its cleaner and negates the need to wear gloves. Well, this brush contradicts that. For cleaning wheels or interiors, this brush would excel, but for tyres its quite ill-suited. A puzzling conclusion to an OG product.
I am glad I am not crazy liking Hero. It is very nice and slick and cleans great. And I agree, it doesn't have the mixing quirks of Absolute.

I used ADS products on my Mustang yesterday morning. I can confidently say Shampoo+ is my favorite now. Extremely slick and wonderful under the mit. I washed my Mazda with GSF on Saturday and it doesn't even compare, good soap but ADS has it beat. I will always keep a supply of others (Reset, NV Snow, GSF) on hand, but ADS shampoo has my vote from now on. Smells awesome too...


As for the bottles, I know the tire cleaner has the squared off top, however they aren't all that darker color, I got a note on my last order that there was a supply issue and they were substituting a more clear bottle. I actually hope they go back to the darker bottles it looks really nice...

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The bristles are just too long, meaning they splay out too much when working the sidewall. On larger profile rubber like my Ranger, this isn't really a problem. But on low profile tyres, you would need to work slowly and carefully to not smudge dressing onto the wheel. The way around that would be to squeeze the bristles tight, which would then cover your fingers with dressing. I started using a brush over foam applicators for tyre dressing because its cleaner and negates the need to wear gloves. Well, this brush contradicts that. For cleaning wheels or interiors, this brush would excel, but for tyres its quite ill-suited. A puzzling conclusion to an OG product.
Sounds like this brush needs some sort of extended collar to rein in the bristles, instead of squeezing by hand.
Quick, dirty (and ugly) way would be to use some gaffer tape.
 
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I am glad I am not crazy liking Hero. It is very nice and slick and cleans great. And I agree, it doesn't have the mixing quirks of Absolute.
Have a look at the below link, a member there doing the usual old-man thing in dismissing anything and everything that's new as overpriced and over hyped. Almost as if he has to defend his choice in sticking with the tried and true, and dismiss anyone who dares to share a product that might be better. My response was as follows -

Opinions On ADS Hero (autogeekonline.net)

I've used and really liked Hero. And yes, it's my new favorite.

But, is it a game changer or a MUST HAVE? Absolutely not.

Price wise, it sits above other rinse-less products because of the Si02 content, but is fair compared to other similar products.

Carpro ECH20 - $17.59 (500ml) / $84.99 (gallon)
Opti-Coat No Rinse - $27.50 (473ml)
ADS Hero - $17.99 (473ml) / $64.99 (gallon)

So other than Opti-Coat No Rinse, Hero is comparable or less money to ECH20.
At the end of the day, its a product that can facilitate rinse-less washing, and joins a list of alternatives already on the market. Does it make those older products redundant or bad? No, it does not. But is Hero incrementally superior, a class leader or benchmark? Most certainly yes.
 

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Sounds like this brush needs some sort of extended collar to rein in the bristles, instead of squeezing by hand.
Quick, dirty (and ugly) way would be to use some gaffer tape.
A solution that I would consider very un-OG spec.

I can see what they were trying to do with the OG brush, I'm just surprised they landed on this solution. In that I mean attempting to create a soft bristle version of the RaceGlaze XL brush that he used for many years to apply tire dressing. The stiffer bristles are much better suited to low profile tires because they hold their form, even under pressure. (Check the price between OG and Sky's the limit, notice they are priced the same. It's the same price in Australia too.)

Detailing Brush | RaceGlaze XL | Obsessed Garage Store
RaceGlaze Detailing Brush XL - Skys The Limit Car Care (carpro-us.com)
Supersize Natural Bristle Detailing brush - raceglaze.com.au

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The main benefit of the synthetic bristles over the boars hair RaceGlaze XL is how they level down better as you apply, so you don't end up with a caked on look.
 

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Have a look at the below link, a member there doing the usual old-man thing in dismissing anything and everything that's new as overpriced and over hyped. Almost as if he has to defend his choice in sticking with the tried and true, and dismiss anyone who dares to share a product that might be better. My response was as follows -

Opinions On ADS Hero (autogeekonline.net)



At the end of the day, its a product that can facilitate rinse-less washing, and joins a list of alternatives already on the market. Does it make those older products redundant or bad? No, it does not. But is Hero incrementally superior, a class leader or benchmark? Most certainly yes.
Well said. I'm not necessarily throwing out my older OG products but I will definitely gravitate towards the newer. Hero and RRW are incrementally better to me. I will keep Absolute and ONR as a backup, I do still like Opticoat (yellow) and even the green wash and wax version.
 

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Waaay too many products in this space.
You are SO correct, Adam..it's crazy.

So, for now I would just order the 1-liter bottle of Green Star.
And that's what I did just now, picked up a bottle from TRC. Ten bones for shipping though.

What I discovered is that KC Multi-Star N isn't available in a liter bottle, only a gallon or at least that's all I found. The alkalinity of MS is only slightly higher than GS, (13 vs. 12.5,) and since I didn't wanna start with a gallon, I skipped MS.

CP MultiX is less alkaline at 10-11 but man, they're proud of THAT chidt! Love CP stuff in general but that's crazy money for an APC.

The bristles are just too long, meaning they splay out too much when working the sidewall.
And why I like the new CP brush. Much stiffer bristles and unless you screw up, there's no product on the wheels.

I'm having terrible trouble accessing some of my bits
With all due respect to the Australian folks 550, your vocabulary gave me yet another grin. Pretty sure I have never heard the word "bits" and at first, I wasn't at all sure about what you meant. Reading further I caught on and thinking about it, it really IS a good word for those little areas. <smile>
 

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You are SO correct, Adam..it's crazy.


And that's what I did just now, picked up a bottle from TRC. Ten bones for shipping though.

What I discovered is that KC Multi-Star N isn't available in a liter bottle, only a gallon or at least that's all I found. The alkalinity of MS is only slightly higher than GS, (13 vs. 12.5,) and since I didn't wanna start with a gallon, I skipped MS.

CP MultiX is less alkaline at 10-11 but man, they're proud of THAT chidt! Love CP stuff in general but that's crazy money for an APC.


And why I like the new CP brush. Much stiffer bristles and unless you screw up, there's no product on the wheels.


With all due respect to the Australian folks 550, your vocabulary gave me yet another grin. Pretty sure I have never heard the word "bits" and at first, I wasn't at all sure about what you meant. Reading further I caught on and thinking about it, it really IS a good word for those little areas. <smile>
I have to agree with the MSN being only available in a 5 liter jug. But I don't regret getting it. I keep it in my IK foam pro 12 mixed 20:1 for wheel wells and wheels too. It foams really nice and cleans amazing. I prefer it to Brake buster now.

And yes Multi X is expensive. Hence why I don't buy it unless I get a free 50mil sample from Carpro when I order other stuff. The 50 mil makes a nice 10:1 500 mil bottle to keep in my trunk for emergency clean ups.
 
 








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