GM is pulling back on EVs

[kz]

Don't get me started on gullibility.

LOL -exactly, people also here think that grand jury indictments has something to do with revenge or witch hunt because they missed elementary school class on what a grand jury is. I think it will be really really hard to find a country with more gullible people than this one.

Guy on the news that got out of lawsuit claiming he's an "actor" is primary info source for many.

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[Mitch03]

Gullible?
Dude, you probably believed the cigarette companies when they told you that smoking doesn’t cause cancer. Now you believe the fossil fuel backed shills when they tell you there’s nothing to see here….
You live in a country FULL of gullible people.
More than half of you believe in a god.
Nearly a third of you believed that an election was stolen…. Some still believe it even after their primary source was shown to be knowingly lying about it. Hell, there’s even audio of the orchestrator PLANNING the lie prior to the election.
Don't get me started on gullibility.

WOW! You are so gullible……..You think you have the US figured out and don’t even live in US. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I can tell you do by your insane comments.

 

[Burkey]

WOW! You are so gullible……..You think you have the US figured out and don’t even live in US. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. I can tell you do by your insane comments.

Which part do you disagree with specifically?

 

[sk47]

Hello; Figure most have already figured

it out, but Burkey is baiting us to try to get us to respond in a way so the thread gets closed, or individuals get taken off.
What I do not get is how he gets away with religious and political post content over and over again.

Which part do you disagree with specifically?

Hello; This question is posed in hopes some will respond about his vulgar religious or political baiting.

 

[sk47]

The green ‘transition’ to renewable energy is not happening. That’s just a fact (msn.com)

“He points to Germany, long a leading proponent of renewable energy, as a prime example of this reality.”

““Germany would not have given a minute’s thought to importing liquefied natural gas from the United States two years ago, but is now importing US LNG and building import terminals, which just wouldn’t have happened before,” he points out. “So, when governments, even Western governments, are faced with energy security issues, price issues, they kind of have to rethink their policies.” He is quick to add, though, that Germany’s new-found appetite for US LNG does not mean Germany has abandoned its climate commitments, just that the shifting geopolitical situation forced officials to re-think and adjust the direction of its transition to bolster energy security.”

“For China no such adjustment has been necessary, since the Xi Jinping government has always prioritized energy security above climate goals. China, which retains its nominal status as a “developing nation” in the eyes of the UN and other global organizations despite having the world’s second-biggest economy, has been happy to let western developed nations sacrifice economic and grid stability in pursuit of “net-zero by 2050” goals while it has continued to commission hundreds of new coal-fired power plants and become the world’s biggest importer of crude oil. Even the timing of China’s own climate commitment – net-zero by 2060, not 2050 – reflects the priority Xi and his ministers afford energy security in their thinking. A similar dynamic is at play in the world’s most populous country, India, whose own climate commitment timing is 2070, even further out into the future.”

“In The New Map, Yergin sets out the reality that past energy transitions, like the one in the UK from wood to coal that began in the 1500s, have taken place across a century or more and have never ended with the former energy source being abandoned. In fact, the world burned more wood for energy in 2022 than ever before, just as it used more oil, coal, and natural gas than in any other year on record. “

“What it all boils down to is this: the prevailing narrative being pushed by policymakers, activists and much of the western news media of an energy transition that will dramatically reduce the use of fossil fuels and achieve net-zero emissions by 2050 is a fantasy. The direction and pace of whatever transition ultimately occurs will be dictated by real-world complexities and events, not by schemes promoted in Brussels, Washington DC, and London.’

 

[sk47]

New Images Show Destruction Inside Cargo Ship Set Alight By Burning EVs (msn.com)

Hello; Some saw this coming. Seems the shipping line will not be taking new EV's. Maybe no used EV's also. Guess when you lose 330 million it makes sense.
Can't wait till one of the champions comes up with a spin. Article says EV's catch fire less than ICE, but my stance it is not the frequency of fires. More the intensity and difficulty of putting them out.

 

[Vlad Soare]

More the intensity and difficulty of putting them out.

Not only that, but ICEs don't catch fire spontaneously, out of the blue, while they're parked. If they ever catch fire, they do it while running. So the risk of a conventional car burning your house down (or a ship, for that matter) is practically nil.
This is another point that's conveniently left out by the EV herd.

 

[sk47]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...p&cvid=338dbbf57a9e4653b4911cffe63f1fa8&ei=15

Hello; Just happened onto this story this morning. Brings at least two questions to mind. One is how will first owners and second how will champions react to this.
The next question is about the MPG calculators ( computer) built into a car. Are they accurate? Had a friend with a 90's Jeep Grand Cherokee. had an early version of a built in system. He was always telling me he got mid 20's MPG. Used that feature as proof. Sure enough sometimes the readout did show mid 20's MPG. It also showed 0 MPG when idiling at a stop light. 60 some MPG when coasting down a long grade. 4 or 5 MPG when pulling up a grade.

 

[sk47]

Hello; Had C-SPAN's Washington Journal on in the background this morning. Wish i had paid closer attention to the talking head going on about food crops and "climate change". She was using the common talking points, so I was not listening real close. One exchange caught my ear.
A phone in caller brought up the Ukraine war and stated it IS the single current biggest contributor of emissions ( carbon and pollution). That includes the blowing up of the Russian gas pipeline. He also mentioned the stopping of a grain harvest out of Ukraine deal .

The talking head stated flatly that the Ukraine war has NOTHING to do with climate change. Fancy that. Even well before that war started i had read about how militaries are the greater emitters of carbon.

 

[Burkey]

Not only that, but ICEs don't catch fire spontaneously, out of the blue, while they're parked. If they ever catch fire, they do it while running. So the risk of a conventional car burning your house down (or a ship, for that matter) is practically nil.
This is another point that's conveniently left out by the EV herd.

You’re assuming that electric vehicles will continue to be propelled by lithium ion batteries.
I‘d suggest that isn’t likely to be the case at all.
The research that’s going into battery tech is mind blowing and still in its infancy, relatively speaking.

 

[sk47]

You’re assuming that electric vehicles will continue to be propelled by lithium ion batteries.
I‘d suggest that isn’t likely to be the case at all.
The research that’s going into battery tech is mind blowing and still in its infancy, relatively speaking.

Hello; You are playing fantasy thinking games again or just wishful thinking. Anyway, it is the idea of some game changing technology which will make older tech obsolete. Such things do happen from time to time. If some new battery tech comes along with a much higher energy density and ability to charge quickly the entire game might change.
Of course much will depend on the cost to scale this new and improved tech. The hydrogen fuel cell and room temperature superconductors are potential game changers if they can be made to work and iif they will not cost too much.
One of the game changer success stories of my life time has been the laser. I still can recall seeing a ruby laser for the first time in a college lab. I now have several laser tech devices in my home and car (CD and DVD players).

I was reading of a new superconductor in the last few months. Saw in the recent days how that "promising" tech did not work out. One last thing for early adopters of BEV's and those mandated into BEV's if your "shiny new tech" happens is they will be left holding the bag. I was an early adopter of Ni-cad battery power tools. Had several. Learned of the problems with the batteries. They were OK for a while.
I now have Li batteries to run some of my hand tools. Had to buy new tools of course. The charge cycle life is very much better. In fact some of the battery packs have outlasted the power tools. I am down to one drill and one saw that use batteries from maybe 20 years ago. I bought several extra battery packs and each pack came with a small flashlight. Looks like the lights will be the only thing I can use the batteries in before long.
Point being this wishing for new battery tech will likely orphan current BEV owners and all the manufacturing capitol expense recently expended to meet the looming mandate dates. Gotta love how you are willing to throw so many under the bus.
point number two; The idea should have been to let the EV battery tech workout the best system BEFORE mandating a system for the entire world to use. At the very least some standardizing of charging ports and battery pack shapes so that new battery tech might at least "fit" the older vehicles.

 

[K4fxd]

After the Felicity Ace debacle, Mitsui OSK Lines announced that it would no longer be transporting electric vehicles aboard its vessels.

I said this would happen. Wait till one self destructs in an under ground parking garage...........

 

[K4fxd]

So much truth here.

 

[K4fxd]

You’re assuming that electric vehicles will continue to be propelled by lithium ion batteries.
I‘d suggest that isn’t likely to be the case at all.
The research that’s going into battery tech is mind blowing and still in its infancy, relatively speaking.

Even if this miracle battery is invented, you still need a large enough power source to charge it.

Lets say a 16 charger station all 16 are fast charging this battery. What are we talking about, 1 trillion KW's of current being pulled from the grid?

 

[K4fxd]

I wonder if climate change will make the outback into a tropical paradice.

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