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[emcmtony]

I hate to sound like a contrarian here, but what is so special about a GT350. I get the GT500 for sure. The GT350 gives you a little over 500 HP which for the difference you can add a supercharger, better wheels, and some stripes on a GT Premium with PP and have essentially the same care except more powerful. Is the 5.2 that much better than the 5.0?

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[Sssorry350]

I hate to sound like a contrarian here, but what is so special about a GT350. I get the GT500 for sure. The GT350 gives you a little over 500 HP which for the difference you can add a supercharger, better wheels, and some stripes on a GT Premium with PP and have essentially the same care except more powerful. Is the 5.2 that much better than the 5.0?

I could tell you how much better it is with a 8200rpm redline and better handling , but it’s best if you go out and drive one of you have the opportunity. The experience will jus do more justice then words.

 

[lightrules]

I hate to sound like a contrarian here, but what is so special about a GT350. I get the GT500 for sure. The GT350 gives you a little over 500 HP which for the difference you can add a supercharger, better wheels, and some stripes on a GT Premium with PP and have essentially the same care except more powerful. Is the 5.2 that much better than the 5.0?

i'll be nice...

 

[wingnutt]

I hate to sound like a contrarian here, but what is so special about a GT350. I get the GT500 for sure. The GT350 gives you a little over 500 HP which for the difference you can add a supercharger, better wheels, and some stripes on a GT Premium with PP and have essentially the same care except more powerful. Is the 5.2 that much better than the 5.0?

 

[emcmtony]

i'll be nice...

Just a simple question really. No reason to get dramatic about it. I just don't see the benefit of buying a 3 year old vehicle for what you could set up a brand new one to be very close to. A GT Premium with the performance package and magnaride suspension then adding a supercharger should be very similar in performance to this 3 year old GT350 with more Horsepower. Are we just paying for the honor of calling it a Shelby? I think if you break it down and think honestly about value, you can do better with a newer, modified GT than spending almost 60K on a 3 year old GT350. Whatever way you slice it, other than the name recognition of the Shelby, you are getting a better value, better warranty, better equipped vehicle for less money.

 

[emcmtony]

One of the downfalls of this forum is that people immediately go into defensive mode and call someone else stupid, laugh at them or dismiss their questions out of hand. The purpose of forums like this is to share knowledge, ask questions, learn from others and learn more about the cars we drive. If everyone just feels the need to troll others, then this goal is not being met. I had an honest question of the value of the GT350 vs an upgraded GT and instead of discussing, people just act like they are superior beings because they may have a GT350 and take it as an attack. BMW drivers are very similar in that they will pay large sums of money for an "M" car by buying an M550 instead of a 550 which is essentially the same, neither being an M5. to make the comparison, I view the GT500 as an M5 type vehicle, a special vehicle that stands head and shoulders above the others. But a GT350 is not in that league like an M550 is not in the league of an M5.

 

[PP0001]

Just a simple question really. No reason to get dramatic about it. I just don't see the benefit of buying a 3 year old vehicle for what you could set up a brand new one to be very close to. A GT Premium with the performance package and magnaride suspension then adding a supercharger should be very similar in performance to this 3 year old GT350 with more Horsepower. Are we just paying for the honor of calling it a Shelby? I think if you break it down and think honestly about value, you can do better with a newer, modified GT than spending almost 60K on a 3 year old GT350. Whatever way you slice it, other than the name recognition of the Shelby, you are getting a better value, better warranty, better equipped vehicle for less money.

Pretty simple from my standpoint.

Go out and test drive or track a bone stock/modified Mustang GT back to back with a stock GT350 or GT350R and then come back to us with your thoughts.

Based on your comments you obviously have not had any seat time in either a GT350 or GT350R under controlled track conditions let alone some spirited driving on the back roads of this great country.

Trust me, after owning all 6 generations of Mustang over the last +50 years there is lot more to it than just the Shelby name that makes these 2nd generation GT350's so cool, enjoyable and desirable for us GT350/R enthusiasts.

 

[Sssorry350]

Just a simple question really. No reason to get dramatic about it. I just don't see the benefit of buying a 3 year old vehicle for what you could set up a brand new one to be very close to. A GT Premium with the performance package and magnaride suspension then adding a supercharger should be very similar in performance to this 3 year old GT350 with more Horsepower. Are we just paying for the honor of calling it a Shelby? I think if you break it down and think honestly about value, you can do better with a newer, modified GT than spending almost 60K on a 3 year old GT350. Whatever way you slice it, other than the name recognition of the Shelby, you are getting a better value, better warranty, better equipped vehicle for less money.

The price is the price, either pay it or get what you can afford. Doesn’t make anyone better then the next person. There are big substantial changes in the way the motor makes power , the car handles better then any mustang. You can upgrade a GT as much as you want but it still won’t perform as well as the 350. Most of the 350 owners bought the car because of the drivers experience and feed back and track driving . If they wanted to go fast in a straight line they would most likely go your route. You can have 600-700hp but what’s the use if you cant take the corner. This car gives you a great balance of speed and handling.

 

[emcmtony]

Pretty simple from my standpoint.

Go out and test drive or track a bone stock/modified Mustang GT back to back with a stock GT350 or GT350R and then come back to us with your thoughts.

Based on your comments you obviously have not had any seat time in either a GT350 or GT350R under controlled track conditions let alone some spirited driving on the back roads of this great country.

Trust me, after owning all 6 generations of Mustang over the last +50 years there is lot more to it than just the Shelby name that makes these 2nd generation GT350's so cool, enjoyable and desirable for us GT350/R enthusiasts.

Understood. I am not talking about a bone stock GT, I was talking about the GT Premium with the performance packages and magnaride. What you do NOT say here is what SPECIFICALLY makes this vehicle worth so much more money.

1. Not Horsepower - At 525, a Supercharger puts the GT over 600
2. Not magnaride - The premium has it
3. Wheels are not giving you huge gains
4. Transmission - Same in Automatic, 6 speed brings us to the Tremec/Getrag debate
5. Appearance Package in the form of grill, splitter, stripes etc are not appreciably changing the ride.

I am truly not getting the tangible difference other than the "go drive one" and you will see. I drove the GT350, GT500, Mach 1 and the GT when I purchased my car earlier this year. The one that showed me the most was the GT500 but to be honest it is too much car for me...too much HP that I would not use effectively for the money, but love that car. The Mach 1 to me was not noticeably different and the GT350 was faster but not noticeably different with the steering. The throttle response was better but you can tune that into a GT car pretty easily.

 

[emcmtony]

The price is the price, either pay it or get what you can afford. Doesn’t make anyone better then the next person. There are big substantial changes in the way the motor makes power , the car handles better then any mustang. You can upgrade a GT as much as you want but it still won’t perform as well as the 350. Most of the 350 owners bought the car because of the drivers experience and feed back and track driving . If they wanted to go fast in a straight line they would most likely go your route. You can have 600-700hp but what’s the use if you cant take the corner. This car gives you a great balance of speed and handling.

Again, specifically what is giving that to you? What is the real difference other than words....that is what I am not seeing. I look over the specs and do not see that much difference to justify it. It is not about affordability for me because I pay cash for my cars, but don't spend additional money unless I am gaining value for it.

 

[Polski]

Understood. I am not talking about a bone stock GT, I was talking about the GT Premium with the performance packages and magnaride. What you do NOT say here is what SPECIFICALLY makes this vehicle worth so much more money.

1. Not Horsepower - At 525, a Supercharger puts the GT over 600
2. Not magnaride - The premium has it
3. Wheels are not giving you huge gains
4. Transmission - Same in Automatic, 6 speed brings us to the Tremec/Getrag debate
5. Appearance Package in the form of grill, splitter, stripes etc are not appreciably changing the ride.

I am truly not getting the tangible difference other than the "go drive one" and you will see. I drove the GT350, GT500, Mach 1 and the GT when I purchased my car earlier this year. The one that showed me the most was the GT500 but to be honest it is too much car for me...too much HP that I would not use effectively for the money, but love that car. The Mach 1 to me was not noticeably different and the GT350 was faster but not noticeably different with the steering. The throttle response was better but you can tune that into a GT car pretty easily.

I mean... #4 - GT350/GT350R does not come in automatic... As people told you, go and drive one

 

[emcmtony]

I mean... #4 - GT350/GT350R does not come in automatic... As people told you, go and drive one

I don't drive automatics so shoot me for missing that. I drove 6 speeds only. But of course noone is telling me the specifics of why their beloved GT350 handles better than the GT Premium with PP. It just is so because you say it is so.
The reality is, if you go into something with a preconceived notion that something is better, you will believe it is better. I cam from owning BMWs for many years and wanted an American Muscle Car. I drove just about every one out there (Camaro, Corvette, Challenger, Charger, Mustang) and decided from there. I had no notion that I wanted a Shelby or a Vette, I was new to American Muscle cars and had a completely open mind. I didn't go in wanting/expecting the "Shelby" to be better because of the name recognition. As a matter of fact, the cars I hated was the Mach 1 and the Camaro. Not for any other reason except it didn't like them for the value vs. performance. I was a blank canvas and I honestly did not see what the GT350 benefits were...hence the question, what specifically is better and why.
Sorry to bother you GT350 Homers with an honest question......

 

[emcmtony]

I mean... #4 - GT350/GT350R does not come in automatic... As people told you, go and drive one

Also...your response here is exactly what I was saying....everyone wants to play "Gotcha" and troll instead of having an intelligent conversation about a topic.

 

[Rael]

I'm not debating anyone here, but I had a 2017 GT350 for two years, but now I can't get a new one. So I got what seems like the next best thing, especially given what's available, which is a performance package car with Magneride. Given my abilities and experiences on track, I guarantee that I'll never be able to measure the differences between the GT350 and the GT.

That said, I doubt I'll ever drive anything more fun than the GT350. Nothing compared in that department.

 

[THX 138]

Sorry to bother you GT350 Homers with an honest question......

Nice name-calling, newbie.

You've already been given three answers that told you the same thing, you just don't like the answer: Get in a GT350, drive it on track, and get back to us. Is it really that hard to understand that a car can be more than the sum of its parts?

Since you're unlikely to do that, though, I'll give you some more substance to answer your question directly:
- You can't get a GT with an engine that revs as smoothly, willingly, or as high as a GT350
- You can't get a GT with brakes as big as those that come on a GT350
- You can't get a GT with all the engine, transmission, and differential cooling that you get on a GT350
- You can't get a GT with a Tremec 3160 transmission ("Getrag vs. Tremec debate?" LOLWUT? There is literally no debate here...)
- The GT350 will always be lighter than a GT
- Add a supercharger to a GT and it will be even heavier, and will heat-soak
- Put all of the above reasons together, and it's really not that hard to understand why the GT350 is the better track car.
- Oh, and a GT will never sound as good as a bone-stock GT350, no matter what you do to it.

Now go away and stop shitting in the OP's thread. Feel free to start your own.

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